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Online Casinos in general: Affiliates - Your opinion (Page 8)

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Anonym

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29th Jun. 2020, at 06:41 pm CEST#71
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Silence wrote on 06/28/2020 at 23:39: @ImmortalOli

I highly doubt you are just a viewer of OCT .

To spend such an amount of time to comment for streamers you don't know privately, that you only watch ......

Either:
- You are the biggest fanboy
- You have maximum boredom

Or --> hit dogs bark ...

That being said, check out the "stream". I had the fun of watching his videos yesterday. He's not in any stream, he's just commenting on what he played days/weeks ago. I have never seen that before from a Streamer and that seems very unserious. Especially in this day and age, you should show your face publicly when you stream

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29th Jun. 2020, at 10:51 pm CEST#72
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Well, I have made myself times neutrally to the thing since I had OCT before never onm screen.
Now I have made up for this because I would not like to argue without a basis, of course, but unfortunately the sparsely available records give little.

But well...

@Tolga:
The first thing I say about this I see in the fewest streamers, someone who shows his deposits & withdrawals as well as betting history, which you can view in the respective casinos.

This has also done a Roshtein and I think with him we do not need to discuss much. In the available videos I have found nothing that underlines this statement.

But I actually have a proof from the here and now, where you can see in this case it is definitely about REAL MONEY and no stream fake credit. I can not imagine in any case because this is a large platform on which the case is still being actively clarified.

Yes, I accept that as proof that he has played in this case with his real money. However, many fakestreamers mix real money bullets with casino bullets. Therefore, unfortunately, the evidential value dwindles - but again: Such links I find good. Of course, it would have been interesting to see how this win came about.

"Who thinks that I'm fake should drop by the stream and convince yourself, all the others want to p**s me before only the leg and I'm already used to I'm running for almost 13 years social media in various areas and there are of course always hater, flamer or people who want to put down.

Referring to this quote I would like to clarify that I am neither hater nor flamer or want to put someone down
And since I also watched the Youtube content : I am also not a 10 cent soldier or (even if I find the word creation funny) not a hard money nu**e. Does such disdain for lowrollers really exist at OnlineCasinosTube ?

For example, he is simply labeled as an alcoholic by many

He is "open" with his addiction and says himself that he has lost control - no one stamps him as an alcoholic, he does that himself. So openly then but not because in the Twitch video "MAX Live from the hospital" he then says that he does not want to be addressed in the stream on it

I see it the other way around he makes in his streams and that at this intellectual high level so strongly self-reflected permanently the topic of addictions and therapy on the topic and that on a total real talk basis. There is something very rare, especially on the Internet live style, social media, etc.

In this section I wondered if I was looking at the right Streamer - mentally high level ??? I do not know how to express this without coming across too negative. Therefore I leave an evaluation to this statement open at this point.

so as an example I was in a therapy with a diploma psychologist. this woman has no access to me and I got no wire to her. I had the feeling to talk against a wall. Now max oct there is someone who is himself in the material inside, an obviously much around the world has seen and experienced a lot and shares his experiences for free with me in a way so that I understand it?


Now it becomes really silly (if this is really your seriousness). I thought you want to seriously discuss - but I'll do it like you and believe to 99% is nonsense, 1% I leave open for you already know ...nothing is impossible No offense..

The wins the replay of the stream and everything was of course broadcast LIVE on Twitch and are still available today on their twitch.tv/onlinecasinostube channel.

I made times purely in the "[CONTROL LOSS] Stream escalates in HIGHROLL" from 21.06 and thought first "HÄÄÄ???" 50 minutes of self-promotion ??? But okay, then it was finally played - for a whole 16 minutes then a commercial break for 4 Euro Apache? Then played again and after 10 minutes advertising for the OCT website ? At time marker about 1:30 one is then explained that you are watching a VOD from 3 days ago.....uff

Therefore my question: Was the principle of Twitch not understood or simply ignored to bring this sad advertising event to the man? With streaming this has probably less to do... that is cheaply packaged advertising and at least my taste he does not meet with his entertaining skills

I'll get to your other topics later, I'll keep working for now, I'll be back at work this evening around 8 pm.

Have probably forgotten, but is not bad had anyway no desire to answer because one could use these cool summer days better. I hope you're the same with the great weather proceeded.

PS: TODAY Max is live at 16:30 he has just posted on instagram @onlinecasinostube all the better talk and write without having a clue can come by I'm there! And then you can also form a picture yourself.


have the stream briefly watched (did not have much time) and I immediately noticed the chat activity at 140 viewers was far below average ... must that really be with the bots ? They also do not help if the streamer does not entertain or offers halfway decent live content.

@ImmortalOli
Max or OCT always seems to be the most real to me. First of all, you have to remember that Max was one of the first to bring casino content to the respective video platforms. Whether it was casino, hall or online. Granted, that doesn't prove his realness.

So for you he is the most real and you deliver directly afterwards an argument that you conclude with the fact that it does not prove this. What for ?

So where should be the sense behind it, if he plays with fakemoney, but nevertheless constantly makes loss? And why should he make fake deposits in the amount of 50€?

With a 50€ Deposit I actually don't believe in fakemoney - there are enough streamers who make alibi-depostits and use the opportunity to swear on the life of their own children, wife or mother that they play with real money. Of course, formulated so that you could assume this for all bullets

But if he makes so much money, why then 50€ Bullets - he has surely the Kniffelkiste still (Note for all those who do not know what this refers to: in a video he has saved 35000€ and stored in a package of a Kniffel game)

Entertainment? Who feels entertained by a stream where almost only lost?

I feel basically entertained by streamers who lose and win as much as most players. Then that is authentic for me because it corresponds to reality. And then I'm also happy for him when he lands a big hit and I begrudge him from the bottom of my heart.

- Lure people into the affilate links? Estimated he advises against 50% of the casinos that he links. There are almost always references to problems, poor RTP, hassles with Verification and payout (if ever available). It is often said "keep your hands off this crap casino" . Leo and Platin are the only casinos he actually promotes positively. But these are also OCs that have some of the best ratings here and are also continuously advertised here. In my eyes also legitimate, are good OCs.
Max's answer to the question what tips he can give for OCs: "Don't play at all"
When he plays with Bonus money, he says that too.
Ever thought about the fact that he just has the cash for raw deposits? In the offline videos he wins thousands more often. Does he also play with bonus money? And the offline videos came way before the Twitch streams. That he takes the money for machines from the stream and from affilate links can be excluded. So the only thing left is that he honestly earned (maybe inherited or found) the dough himself. Or he has his own casinos and halls, but then he would have the money to gamble. But I think that this can be ruled out.


Of course he wants to generate Affiliate links - all the negative aspects you mentioned in the stream I also see with other streamers, even with those who stink so much of fake that I'm grateful that odors are not transmitted over the Internet - so it's also not an argument that you can now evaluate as a plus point for OCT.
And when I hear about offline wins, I'm already prepared to hear a touching story. Story-Telling for stupid, but that is already almost the (sad) standard - in the videos are cut off - the browser or the desktop you often do not get to see
One saves 2000€ for a streaming career, the next has a job where he earns 10000€ in Paysafe cards or even runs a company for IT solutions (which demonstrably even makes minus) - then there are those who stream from your junk shop where you as an emphatic person already think about donating the money for a bucket of wall paint while he organizes the 1000€ Bonushunt on SlottyVegas.

And "That he takes the money for machines so from the stream and from affilate links, can probably be excluded."
I think exactly the opposite is the case - I would be surprised if there are other sources of income. But the number of competitors is increasing and then it's getting thin which would explain this unfortunate attempt at a twitch career.
Peterparker19 brings it to the point.

Ultimately, every viewer should also question why he wants to see how streamers play with RAW cash.

I don't want to see only Raw, playing with bonus I don't see as the problem - it would be important to me that is not concealed if something is "Sponsored", that a bullet is fake probably anyway no one will say just as NoWithdraw bullets or bullets with nem Low-MaxCashout. Or even the whole stream is a pure casino event ... has anyone actually heard anything from the ReelRaiders ? But of course I don't impute that to the OCT at this point.

Your reaction shows again that a fair and neutral discussion is not possible anyway. I can bring good arguments here and these are then simply ignored and you become unobjective.

Then I ask why you have posted here at all ? Bring times the arguments ... I look gladly times over it because I can be convinced also quite. But please no baseless stuff that only represents your opinion - there must come then bischen (verifiable) substance.

What kind of reaction did you expect when you defame someone on the net and attack his business?

Shouldn't you expect the attacked person to come forward - in my observation every streamer has balls (at least that's how it's always communicated)? What do you care about his business as a "normal viewer" ? Your behavior does not correspond to a normal viewer...

I think you can stop this discussion. Nobody will come to a common denominator here. I don't know why Royal is twisting or fabricating the facts. To me it seems more like he is on a personal vendetta. I can save myself any words in the future, because nothing will change safely.


That you come to a common denominator presupposes the discussion and it is not only about Royal here - I thought anyway we discuss about the streamer or according to the thread title about Affiliate. And as a participant in this thread, I'm not on a vendetta against OCT either.

And my conclusion without any need for revenge:
OCT is one of the worst streamers I've ever seen. The content is garbage and at best just above the restreamers, VODs belong on YT - Twitch is for LiveContent, Authentic ? I couldn't find a single clue for this in several hours of recorded content, but several against. Realism can not be anywhere close to fix (unless you refer to his alcohol problem) so crisscross as the Vods are concocted with advertising for themselves and the Brudis from the buddy bubble that you want to call the QVC channel in comparison already as premium content.

As for the number with the game strategies as a PDF: After I've seen the "advertising" video for it - I found that really great that I downloaded it right away (I really mean it, they really made an effort even if the Guy Fawkes mask was a bit overdone )
And it is in my eyes a clear indication that OCT has tendencies to rip off, because you don't even take the effort
Also the avoidance of identity - no webcam in the streams, wearing masks in videos, making face unrecognizable - contributes to the fact that the whole event is more likely to be classified in the scam corner instead of in the group of streamers who design their streams genuinely and authentically. If he could at least entertain... but well, that's a matter of taste...

You actually provide with the manner of your contributions and their content and your way of arguing rather clues that Royal is in the right, because it is obviously only about "the business" to defend and incidentally still take a few viewers with what has failed in my eyes.

For the sake of fainess, I will follow the next streams - who knows, maybe there is still a silver lining on the horizon.

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30th Jun. 2020, at 08:53 am CEST#73
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Good discussion. Thanks for the effort Royal and Latino 👍

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30th Jun. 2020, at 03:22 pm CEST#74
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I don't know if you can see my "like" so I'll speak up again. Indeed that was a very good post @Latino
Another little note for you Latino&Co. Currently OCT is only "Twitch affiliate", as well as most slot streamers. One exception is Shirox who is a "Twitch affiliate", you can tell by the "tick" in front of his name. As far as I know he did this through Poker and PC gaming.

As a Twitch partner you have several advantages, e.g. the revenues are not shared with Twitch. To become a partner you have to fulfill some requirements. First you need a viewer average of 75 and second you have to present 3 different categories . At OCT it is "Slot" / "Casino" / Just Chatting"

As soon as he reaches the desired viewer average by slotting, he specifically stops playing and changes the category from Slot to Just Chatting. This is probably the main reason why you see some kind of repetition in almost every stream.

By the way, there are dozens of videos from OCT on "4 Euro Apache". In addition, there are other channels with which he cooperates or even the owner is

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1st Jul. 2020, at 04:29 pm CEST#75
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Latino wrote on 29.06.2020 at 22:51: Well, I have made myself times neutrally to the thing since I had OCT before never onm screen.
Now I have made up for this because I do not want to argue without a basis but unfortunately the sparse available records give little.

But well...

@Tolga:


That you come to a common denominator presupposes the discussion and it's not just about Royal here - I thought we were discussing the Streamer anyway or according to the thread title about Affiliate. And as a participant in this thread, I'm not on a vendetta against OCT either.

And my conclusion without any need for revenge:
OCT is one of the worst streamers I've ever seen. The content is garbage and at best just above the restreamers, VODs belong on YT - Twitch is for LiveContent, Authentic ? I couldn't find a single clue for this in several hours of recorded content, but several against. Realism can not be anywhere close to fix (unless you refer to his alcohol problem) so crisscross as the Vods are cobbled together with advertising for themselves and the Brudis from the buddy bubble that you want to call the QVC channel in comparison already as premium content.

As for the number with the game strategies as a PDF: After I've seen the "advertising" video for it - I found that really great that I downloaded it right away (I really mean it, they really made an effort even if the Guy Fawkes mask was a bit overdone )
And it is in my eyes a clear indication that OCT has tendencies to rip off, because you don't even take the effort
Also the avoidance of identity - no webcam in the streams, wearing masks in videos, making face unrecognizable - contributes to the fact that the whole event is more likely to be classified in the scam corner instead of in the group of streamers who design their streams genuinely and authentically. If he could at least entertain... but well, that's a matter of taste...

You actually provide with the manner of your contributions and their content and your way of arguing rather clues that Royal is in the right, because it is obviously only about "the business" to defend and incidentally still take a few viewers with what has failed in my eyes.

For the sake of fainess, I will follow the next streams - who knows, maybe there is still a silver lining on the horizon.

I really don't feel like the discussion anymore, because I've written enough about it - at least more than I wanted to. Still, I have to admit that your post is very neutral and fair-minded. Whether you like the content of OCT is and remains your business.
It's actually common for casino Youtubers not to show their faces. Of all of them, Max is the only one who has published at least a few pictures with his face on Instagram. I'm out of the discussion with that now, too. Have a nice rest of the week and good luck with your gaming.

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1st Jul. 2020, at 08:50 pm CEST#76
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ImmortalOli wrote on 01.07.2020 at 16:29
I really don't feel like discussing this anymore, because I've written enough about it - at least more than I wanted to. Still, I must acknowledge that your post is very neutral and fair-minded. Whether you like the content of OCT is and remains your business.
It's actually common for casino Youtubers not to show their faces. Of all of them, Max is the only one who has published at least a few pictures with his face on Instagram. I'm out of the discussion with that now, too. Have a nice rest of the week and good luck with your gaming.

Well with casino "youtubers" who stream on Twitch at the same time it's rather common that they show their faces

Actually do not know any casino "Youtuber" who stream without cam on Twitch !

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Silence wrote on 01.07.2020 at 20:50
Well with casino "youtubers" streaming on twitch at the same time it's more common for them to show their faces

Don't actually know any casino "youtubers" who stream on Twitch without a cam !

Moneymaker84 with almost 50,000 subscribers on YouTube. By the way, actually times a Streamer, which one should take a closer look.

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I will continue to actively read this thread, but contribute nothing more. When I introduced myself above I already mentioned I'm rather the silent & anonymous reader anyway

Here it is obviously no longer about the original topic, but only about certain streamers (OCT + maximum use)

Now I have provided evidence for real money online casino twitch streams from OnlineCasinosTube after which was originally screamed, it is suddenly called

"YES some streamers mix their deposits to hide their fakemoney sessions. And there are new hate and negative posts from certain people.

All the haters here provide 0 evidence but only write assumptions and slanders against Max. They tore themselves the mouth with speculations taken from the air and manipulated Photoshob proof Screenshots. Which are additionally allegedly no longer available... and deleted in the forum... pity that is really weak. So I'm out after this post out but do not want to withhold one thing:

I felt personally attacked as a viewer. Only that is no longer so I see it now as "maximum use" with a bit of irony, and turn the spies now. Therefore, here is the last Instagram message from @MaximalEinsatz Instagram PN.

QUOTE MAXIMUM STAKE 2020 ONLINECASINOTUBE

"Tolga diggi, I thank you too that you are so committed, the same goes for all the others who there in the GambleJoe.com forum posts on the apparently current topic:

maximum bet, OnlineCasinoTube.com Twitch Casino & Slot Streamer real money or Affiliate deals.

Just like all other OCT buddies I write with about above mentioned topics I can only tell & advise you the following:

I celebrate it hard that you, olfish and other OCT-buddies stand up for me. But it is very important: Diggi that you also do not take it to heart, because it is not as negative as you think what is happening. I'll tell you something and let you in on my view of things.

First of all: As I have already said diggi this is the Internet.

(you know... I've been doing advertising & marketing in social media in various areas for almost 13 years). So I am used to negative comments, know-it-alls or possibly sometimes even envious.

Moreover, explicitly in the genre "Gambling" in Germany with the target group for casino & gambling, the negative comments are even more extreme and you will find there additionally strengthened even more of these trolls & inet strong. And this is not only on Youtube/onlinecasinostube so, but also on other platform as here in this case on Gamblejoe.com

You know that, there are always people who run their mouths or know better. I'll tell you something now. This might also change the way you see the situation.

Everywhere my "TAGS" so my name zb. ONLINECASINOSTUBE or MaximalEinsatz is mentioned, we are pushed in the google ranking. So SEO, search engines etc.

Degree on so traffic strong Web -seiten like gamblejoe.com is important it there constantly about me is talked and best also my backlinks and tags are discussed. The more the better!

It's like in RL, e.g. with Hollywood stars.

It's all about PRESS PRESS PRESS.

No matter if negative or positive the winner in the end is me. And what I make of it is up to me.

From there push always directly into such contributions purely, hold the constantly active and write always beautifully my TAGS with purely (catchwords), if you would like to help me. Involve people in discussions and push that to the immeasurable. The important thing is that you stay cool about your real feelings and turn the tables.

See it this way Advertising is advertising. Many people forget quickly and want to see what they want to see and this applies not only in the positive, but also for negative. So every time new posts appear and the whole thing is pushed, I have already won.

So as I said: "Please do not take it so to heart see this as I do and be happy about it that people apparently mega the thoughts and give effort to write whole novels to harm me obviously.

Haha sorry but this is the reality: you can post this at gamblejoe.com... is strategically seen exactly the opposite, what I want to do with the strategy, but anyway, then post the guys at least two tracks with it that this Roy777 can melt on the tongue. You know I hear from time to time also Deutschrap and the two songs I fire me now also on loud directly times onen way to the Spielo hahaha.

Greetings to the GJ-Community PS: Saturday & Sunday COMEBACK Stream on Twitch/Onlinecasinostube I'm happy about everyone who switches on.

PEACE - MAX from OnlineCasinotube.com

QUOTE END

So now the thread may be closed, or my post deleted or whatever. The important thing is I feel good again.

Also from me goodbye!

Oh yes here are the tracks @Royal777, Max is thinking of you:

Quote Max:
push this one in to warm up and then send the second one right after as a finisher move hahaha hope you enjoy the sun bro. Looking forward to seeing you in the stream tomorrow.
1. KC Rebell x Summer Cem - MURCIELAGO LINK =
We're moving on!

2. Mo Trip Writing,Writing
Let them talk )

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3rd Jul. 2020, at 02:37 pm CEST#79
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Tolga wrote on 03.07.2020 at 14:25: I will continue to read this thread actively, but nothing more to contribute. When I introduced myself above I already mentioned I'm more of a silent & anonymous reader anyway

This is obviously no longer about the original topic, but only about certain streamers (OCT + maximum use)

Now I have provided evidence for real money online casino twitch streams from OnlineCasinosTube after which was originally screamed, it is suddenly called

"YES some streamers mix their deposits to hide their fakemoney sessions. And there are new hate and negative posts from certain people.

All the haters here provide 0 evidence but only write assumptions and slander against Max. They tore themselves the mouth with speculations taken from the air and manipulated Photoshob proof Screenshots. Which are additionally allegedly no longer available... and deleted in the forum... pity that is really weak. So I'm out after this post out but do not want to withhold one thing:

I felt personally attacked as a viewer. Only that is no longer so I see it now as "maximum use" with a bit of irony, and turn the spies now. Therefore, here is the last Instagram message from @MaximalEinsatz Instagram PN.

QUOTE MAXIMUM STAKE 2020 ONLINECASINOTUBE

"Tolga diggi, I thank you too that you are so committed, the same goes for all the others who there in the GambleJoe.com forum posts on the apparently current topic:

maximum bet, OnlineCasinoTube.com Twitch Casino & Slot Streamer real money or Affiliate deals.

Just like all other OCT buddies I write with about above mentioned topics I can only tell & advise you the following:

I celebrate it hard that you, olfish and other OCT-buddies stand up for me. But it is very important: Diggi that you also do not take it to heart, because it is not as negative as you think what is happening. I'll tell you something and let you in on my view of things.

First of all: As I have already said diggi this is the Internet.

(you know... I've been doing advertising & marketing in social media in various areas for almost 13 years). So I am used to negative comments, know-it-alls or possibly sometimes even envious.

Moreover, explicitly in the genre "Gambling" in Germany with the target group for casino & gambling, the negative comments are even more extreme and you will find there additionally strengthened even more of these trolls & inet strong. And this is not only on Youtube/onlinecasinostube so, but also on other platform as here in this case on Gamblejoe.com

You know that, there are always people who run their mouths or know better. I'll tell you something now. This might also change the way you see the situation.

Everywhere my "TAGS" so my name zb. ONLINECASINOSTUBE or MaximalEinsatz is mentioned, we are pushed in the google ranking. So SEO, search engines etc.

Degree on so traffic strong Web -seiten like gamblejoe.com is important it there constantly about me is talked and best also my backlinks and tags are discussed. The more the better!

It's like in RL, e.g. with Hollywood stars.

It's all about PRESS PRESS PRESS.

No matter if negative or positive the winner in the end is me. And what I make of it is up to me.

From there push always directly into such contributions purely, hold the constantly active and write always beautifully my TAGS with purely (catchwords), if you would like to help me. Involve people in discussions and push that to the immeasurable. The important thing is that you stay cool about your real feelings and turn the tables.

See it this way Advertising is advertising. Many people forget quickly and want to see what they want to see and this applies not only in the positive, but also for negative. So every time new posts appear and the whole thing is pushed, I have already won.

So as I said: "Please do not take it so to heart see this as I do and be happy about it that people apparently mega the thoughts and give effort to write whole novels to harm me obviously.

Haha sorry but this is the reality: you can post this at gamblejoe.com... is strategically seen exactly the opposite, what I want to do with the strategy, but anyway, then post the guys at least two tracks with it that this Roy777 can melt on the tongue. You know I hear from time to time also Deutschrap and the two songs I fire me now also on loud directly times onen way to the Spielo hahaha.

Greetings to the GJ-Community PS: Saturday & Sunday COMEBACK Stream on Twitch/Onlinecasinostube I'm happy about everyone who switches on.

PEACE - MAX from OnlineCasinotube.com

QUOTE END

So now the thread may be closed, or my post deleted or whatever. The important thing is I feel good again.

Also from me goodbye!

Oh yes here are the tracks @Royal777, Max is thinking of you:

Quote Max:
push this one in to warm up and then send the second one right after as a finisher move hahaha hope you enjoy the sun bro. Looking forward to seeing you in the stream tomorrow.
1. KC Rebell x Summer Cem - MURCIELAGO LINK =
We're moving on!

2. Mo Trip Writing,Writing
Let them talk )


Pure stranger shaming haha. Why do you let yourself become a dog?

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Ferox wrote on 03.07.2020 at 14:37
Pure foreign embarrassment haha. Why do you let them make you into a dog?




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