Hello dear readers, I have registered to present my case.
I can't find anything relevant on the internet and everywhere there is something different. That's why I'm trying here now.
In addition, I could read in this forum a case that is very similar to mine, only the sum in my case is much higher.
To the matter
My mother has won in an online casino amount xxx.xxx. She had it paid to her account at the Volksbank in xx.xxx steps (because more per transfer was not possible).
She transferred half of the win to my account at the Sparkasse without telling me
Our accounts were blocked. I have not been able to pay any bills or withdraw cash for almost two months.
The prosecutor's office wants to seize the money because it is illegal.
The casino in question is licensed by the Malta Gaming Authority (MGA). Eu license.
On the page of the said casino it says the following, quote:
Casino XXX is licensed by the Malta Gaming Authority (MGA) in Malta. The Maltese gambling license is of course also valid in Germany, Austria and all other EU member states in which gambling is not regulated by the state legislation .
She gambled from Baden-Württemberg (residence is there).
What does that mean ?
Lawyer is involved.
By what right does the state want to seize the money?
The money is to be transferred to a "blocked account" to free my account. There the money shall stay until a final decision is made.
The problem is that the amount is not enough to garnish the full amount or to transfer to the blocked account, because I have an overdraft and when the money was received by me I was just under -3,000 €.
That is why I will temporarily open a new account at another bank.
The criminal policewoman told me, when I asked her where the money would go, that it would go to the state treasury.
She also told me that it was illegal in all states except Schleswig-Holstein.
So the win is seized because online gambling is illegal but then it ends up in the state treasury or what ?
By what right is this possible ?
Then the state would make itself just as punishable ?
I am not a lawyer I have no idea therefore I turn to you and hope somebody knows better about this than I do.
I have tried to be as brief as possible.
If you have questions then ask them.
It can not be that you are not protected as a consumer !
If it is illegal, why is it possible to gamble money, but if the win is high, the state takes it?
Where is there something like that ?
I ask for answers
Thanks in advance
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Account seizure/blocking due to online casino win
17th Sep. 2020, at 11:59 pm CEST#2
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One tries to construct something because of money laundering suspicion or illegal gambling. It is essential to involve a specialist lawyer, as there has never been a conviction in the last instance. Oh, and I would change banks.
I am now looking for the case here that was very similar to yours. Your big win got the person then still handed over by the prosecutor's office, after also account was blocked and everything confiscated.
From page 2 second post goes off in the thread here you can read - https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/rechtliche-probleme-bei-grosseren-gewinnen-24597/2/
Germany, a country in which we live well and happily. Where gambling with your own money in Online Casinos is punished more severely than selling drugs or abusing children. We can do this !
Falko wrote on 18.09.2020 at 02:45 clock: From page 2 second post goes off in the thread here kannste yes times read - https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/rechtliche-probleme-bei-grosseren-gewinnen-24597/2/
Frankiboy0815 wrote on 18.09.2020 at 08:08: right so, if the money laundering is suspected, each credit institution must make a report... if it is four and 5 digit amounts....
Online gambling is largely prohibited in Germany...... ...
Can you also prove this with facts?
I do not believe and claim like you that it is tolerated until the gambling treaty is passed in 2021
First of all, you should know what the amounts really are.
Then the question is was this reported by the mother of the Bundesbank, because thus the suspicion of money laundering is already gone.
I myself have already had some payments in the five-digit range directly to my savings bank account without anything happening except a call from a stupid clerk
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I can't find anything relevant on the internet and everywhere there is something different. That's why I'm trying here now.
In addition, I could read in this forum a case that is very similar to mine, only the sum in my case is much higher.
To the matter
My mother has won in an online casino amount xxx.xxx. She had it paid to her account at the Volksbank in xx.xxx steps (because more per transfer was not possible).
She transferred half of the win to my account at the Sparkasse without telling me
Our accounts were blocked. I have not been able to pay any bills or withdraw cash for almost two months.
The prosecutor's office wants to seize the money because it is illegal.
The casino in question is licensed by the Malta Gaming Authority (MGA).
Eu license.
On the page of the said casino it says the following, quote:
Casino XXX is licensed by the Malta Gaming Authority (MGA) in Malta. The Maltese gambling license is of course also valid in Germany, Austria and all other EU member states in which gambling is not regulated by the state legislation .
She gambled from Baden-Württemberg (residence is there).
What does that mean ?
Lawyer is involved.
By what right does the state want to seize the money?
The money is to be transferred to a "blocked account" to free my account. There the money shall stay until a final decision is made.
The problem is that the amount is not enough to garnish the full amount or to transfer to the blocked account, because I have an overdraft and when the money was received by me I was just under -3,000 €.
That is why I will temporarily open a new account at another bank.
The criminal policewoman told me, when I asked her where the money would go, that it would go to the state treasury.
She also told me that it was illegal in all states except Schleswig-Holstein.
So the win is seized because online gambling is illegal but then it ends up in the state treasury or what ?
By what right is this possible ?
Then the state would make itself just as punishable ?
I am not a lawyer I have no idea therefore I turn to you and hope somebody knows better about this than I do.
I have tried to be as brief as possible.
If you have questions then ask them.
It can not be that you are not protected as a consumer !
If it is illegal, why is it possible to gamble money, but if the win is high, the state takes it?
Where is there something like that ?
I ask for answers
Thanks in advance
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I have a loan from the LBS running
I don't know if I am allowed/capable to deregister from the Sparkasse under these circumstances.
It has the confirmation of the casino in writing.
The casino says she had won legally there.
The lawyer will contact the casino's lawyers
Thanks for the quick reply
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Yes that's exactly what I meant. 😊
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Online gambling is largely prohibited in Germany.........
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Can you also prove this with facts?
I do not believe and claim like you that it is tolerated until the gambling treaty is passed in 2021
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Then the question is was this reported by the mother of the Bundesbank, because thus the suspicion of money laundering is already gone.
I myself have already had some payments in the five-digit range directly to my savings bank account without anything happening except a call from a stupid clerk
The whole story sounds a bit strange to me
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