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A lot of money gambled away, chargeback possible?
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Yes, and it has always been controversial, even if it seems clear. Ultimately, there is also a European freedom to provide services
But the whole topic can not be discussed here in the forum anyway reasonable and above all professionally, because most of the "knowledge" only pulled from the net, here no one is represented who has gone through all instances in court (or at least does not comment on it).
What came out at the end of all negotiations and judgments, appeals etc.pp, can only be speculated. Did it end up going all the way to the highest Eu court etc etc? In 99% of the cases, a confidentiality agreement is made at the end, so that just such things do not come out and a flood of lawsuits comes.
Even if you get at the end because of illegal gambling one on the lid and on the other hand his coal back 🤷🏻♂️ So what, the penalty will be far from being as high as the coal you get back.
Ultimately, we are all just laymen in the field and can only reproduce what we have read here.
Or is there also a specialist lawyer for gambling represented here??? I do not think so....
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There one refers only to Online Casinos in Germany.
I have now several times the GGL contacted as well as numerous letters about the bkms written
https://www.bkms-system.com/bkwebanon/report/clientInfo?cin=a2JPTz&c=-1&language=ger
You are welcome to fill out the form there as a "whistleblower"
Keep in mind the location and legal form. <-click
If you play FROM Germany TO Malta, then their legal form and EU laws apply, these are NOT ABOVE but BEFORE the German legal situation...
Nothing will happen...
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Usually the bigger streamers advertise Stake, which has a license in Curacao and thus is not part of the EU. Then it should not be covered by EU law or?
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Curacao is a so-called contracting state of the European un ion, defined as OCT.
P.S.: If the link doesn't work, just google "territory_of_the_European_un ion" . For unknown reasons, the word "un ion" is constantly split
Edit by Sabine: broken link removed
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Meanwhile, all German streamers have cut their connection to Stake and co. to the point of no longer going, not even on Youtube it can be found if you look hard. I.e. either they most likely got a message because of advertising not allowed gambling and probably still got away with a black eye. Best to stop doing that or pay close attention so you're not the last moron to catch it, unfortunately . Not meant insulting or anything. Also the Curacao EU license belief is misleading and simply does not quite agree legally I think
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So right now streaming some German on Stake, although of course I can not guarantee that the live in Germany or Malta. With some you know it, with others not. For example Eddy/juicy_spins, he definitely lives on Malta and moreover he communicates very openly with the chat. One of the very few who shows great transparency, even if I myself am not a friend of Curacao casinos
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Something about the freedom of services..
https://www.anwalt-leverkusen.de/aktuelles/detail/warum-sich-online-casinos-in-deutschland-nicht-auf-dienstleistungsfreiheit-berufen-koennen.html
And whether here also specialist lawyer for gambling is represented?
If so, what would that change your opinion and / or casino selection?
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I am 100% sure not one of them lives in Germany while he was streaming Stake
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Although there is talk of successful verdicts, it is unclear whether people actually got their money back.
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yesterday evening another video on "gambling" came online on Youtube, with a great range (Simplici...)
Among other things, there was talk of a Provider who tries to reclaim the money from the casino, which are illegal
I wonder for a long time, why this topic is always discussed so hot?
Where is the Risk for you? I even have a legal protection Insurance but many providers take on the entire risk so that you collect a commission in the end.
I find this commission very fair and not unreasonable
If a lawyer could get something out, I'm just happy to settle the outstanding loans
What is wrong with a non-binding request to such lawyers who are committed to this?
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