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Online Casinos in general: A lot of money gambled away, chargeback possible?

Topic created on 04th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1 of 39 | Answers: 388 | Views: 106,461
Klatka91
Hello I was until now a silent reader and now wanted to write a topic which interests me.

Everyone knows it new year new luck, the mind sets off and the Roulette ball turns - but unfortunately not as you want!
I have lost within 3 days 1000€. Which are very painful for me. I know play only what you have, but unfortunately the temptation was much too great and the addiction packed.

I have deposited all the Deposit via PayPal, how does that behave when I open a case at Paypal to book the lost money back?

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wettibernd
Expert
The chargeback is possible, meanwhile already know people who have done that. Of course, they no longer have a PayPal account. If Paypal has debited from your giro account then you can simply cancel the debits at your bank. If the credit was on Paypal then you can open a case. The money will be returned and the Paypal account is gone forever.

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Anonym
Open a case brings nothing at PayPal, they stonewall then. You must reverse the debits and write Paypal which debits you object and also why.

It will cost you some nerves and in the end the Paypal account will be gone. If you want to save your nerves use a lawyer who specializes in this, but with 1000 euros... there will be 140 to 350 euros on it.

Because of the clearly recognizable intent, I will not give any further assistance. This is really "I made a mistake and now Paypal pays for it..." and that the thought comes to one immediately...

I hope you do not play after that.

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sigi36
Amateur
Klatka91 wrote on 04.01.2019 at 13:49 Clock: Hello I was to date a silent mitleser and now wanted to write but times a topic what interests me.

Everyone knows it new year new luck, the mind sets off and the Roulette ball turns - just unfortunately not as you want!
I have lost within 3 days 1000€. Which are very painful for me. I know play only what you have, but unfortunately the temptation was much too great and the addiction packed.

I have deposited all the Deposit via PayPal, how does that behave when I open a case at Paypal to book the lost money back?

lost in dec 1.5k in a few hours, I know how you feel the day after and the money bitterly needed,
but no one forced you to deposit, pay your debts and lock yourself in the casino, maybe that was a lesson to you,
if only for a while....

ciao
sigi

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thebutcher85
Amateur
remember should you get your money back it was with PayPal forever and who knows what that has for long-term consequences? whether it is worth it at 1k

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tsrvtech
Amateur
So far, nothing has happened at PP, and in my opinion, nothing will happen, because that's the way the law is at the moment.


If it must be then retrieve direct debit and if PP is in touch, the claim contradict.
e.g. so in the kind:

The amount claimed by you in the amount of xxx euros relates exclusively to charges for online casino games.
These gambling offers fulfill the criminal offense of unauthorized gambling (§ 284 StGB),
as the competent German authorities do not issue any permits for casino games on the Internet in view of section 4 (4) of the State Treaty on Gaming (GlüStV)
cannot and do not issue any permits for casino games on the Internet. The admissibility of this ban under constitutional and
The admissibility of this ban under constitutional and European un ion law has been confirmed by the highest court (BVerfG, September 30, 2013, 1 BvR 3196/11).

Unauthorized gambling does not give rise to any effective obligations under the law of obligations (sections 763, 762 of the German Civil Code).
Accordingly, the gambling providers are not entitled to any claims.

In addition, I would like to point out that, pursuant to Section 9 (1) sentence 3 no. 4 GlüStV, the competent authority is required to notify the parties involved in payment transactions,
in particular credit and financial services institutions, after prior notification of unauthorized gambling offers
from participating in payments for unauthorized gambling and in payouts from unauthorized gambling
Irrespective of such an official order, the involvement of payments in connection with unauthorized gambling is
is prohibited pursuant to Section 4 (1) sentence 2 GlüStV. § Section 4 (1) sentence 2 GlüStV is a prohibition provision within the meaning of Section 134 of the German Civil Code,
so that any contractual provisions on compensation obligations for account holders in the present context would be null and void
and your company cannot have any claims against me in this regard.

I therefore reject your claims for compensation against me.

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thebutcher85
Amateur
i don't mean legally either but who knows what the effect will be in a few years if there are any new online payment methods and you are on any blacklists

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Spectral
Experienced
If I'm honest I find this scam "Have so and so much money deposited and not won. Never mind, I'll just get it back at Paypal" under all cannon.

If you can not control yourself, you should probably leave it alone. You can see now what this can lead to and it is your fault and not that of Paypal.

Sorry, but I think there was already a thread about the gambled money at PayPal to get back and I find such a thing just really reprehensible.

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Anonym
Gambling debts are debts of honor. This back posting is last class

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tsrvtech
Amateur
I just wonder why they all start now, angfangen with the Rückbuchen but that has already 2015 around the turn....

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