Matthias wrote on 09/09/2018 at 21:21: Hello dear community,
i read through the post here and honestly was really speechless at first.
When the new member signed up here to post the post, I had no doubt if this winning pictures could be real.
Also the payout list looked "familiar" to me as I myself have had a bankroll of over €20,000 at Rizk before.
I have likewise cashed out €5000 several times, within a few seconds. It looked the same as the player there, except that the withdrawal on Trustly took a few seconds longer. Here is my payout list at that time. Feel free to check with Rizk, using the transaction numbers, if the money was really paid out then, in case anyone doubts that now too. Well DSGVO will probably make a Dash through the bill, but you can at least prove my agreement on the basis of this thread.
I just have to say something about this, because it honestly hits me a bit. On this subject that we earn from the losses, we have often enough what said, I still repeat it again in short form:
Yes, we earn money with GambleJoe - but we also have some permanent employees who give their best every day, sometimes even at night, to build an internet portal where everyone can inform and express themselves. Regarding losses: We have contracts with almost every casino, where we get one-time commissions for the registration of new players, we deliberately do without revenue sharing, so that we remain independent. So we can punish the casinos depending on how they behave towards the players (without any financial disadvantage for us) by losing their good position. And we don't do much advertising on GambleJoe either. I used to run internet portals back then, there were layers and popdowns, banners and skyscrapers and and. Here we have only text links and buttons in ORANGE, which clearly indicate that you are coming to a casino. You can hardly mark advertising more clearly, as this concept runs through the entire website.
Regarding luxury on "Malta!"? I don't know why Malta was written in quotation marks, maybe it doesn't mean anything.
Daniel and I, we live here in Malta. We have our family here and we live like normal people. We don't drink wine, we don't sip champagne, and we don't go to the Hilton for breakfast, which is supposed to cost "only" 25€ - 1x I might treat myself to that after all....
When we are hungry, we eat at MC Donalds, at the pizza stand on the street or go to the supermarket and buy pasta with tomato sauce.
The word LUXURY - that's tough. And frankly, it upsets me, too. These are judgments that are made without even the slightest hint of what's really going on.
Daniel drives the smallest car in the world (sorry Daniel ) and I have fulfilled a dream and bought a new VW Polo with 1.0 liter engine (capacity like a milk carton) as a company car. What a luxury... Our luxury is that we can pay the rent and don't have a boss to boss us around. Neither of us have a house, or a condo.
But well, enough about our private life - actually it's nobody's business, but I'm just frustrated by such stupid statements.
I also think it's a shame that the thread creator hasn't commented more so far. I checked the system, he was not logged in since tonight.
I have looked at the winning picture, I know Photoshop and have really tried everything to expose a fake with my means. I've swapped colors, changed contrasts, remeasured, but I can't find anything to suggest the image isn't real.
I don't like to be led by the nose either, but so far there is no reason for me to doubt it.
The discrepancy between the Jackpot win and the actual win displayed in the bottom right corner I believe comes from the coin wins in the bonus game.
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What else I forgot:
These sayings always such as "Get disgusted or be banned by the gentlemen ? ... .. How sweet. Let them quietly me itches that in no way".
Such a thing is not a reason for us to lock you Volker. We have already had to "endure" much more.
What I also often read "Yes, yes, now I grumble here and then I am disqualified in the Paysafekarte action."
That's such cheese - what does one have to do with the other...
--- snap ---
Tomorrow I will check with the casino manager, you can count on it. If it's fake - I promise you! - i will reveal it here.
Now it's time for me to sleep - until tomorrow!
Thank you for your detailed words! Please keep us up to date.
I'm a skeptical person by nature, having been screwed here and there when I was a naive gambling establishment patron. That's why this distrust.
It was strengthened in that respect regarding the streamers and the exorbitant wins.
But I must also say, at that time there were still other forums online and these have always extremely annoying and intrusive advertising in the form of POP Ups or advertised by VIP accesses. Of course, this also cost money accordingly (monthly fee lol).
Here everything is free, even from advertising (pop ups, VIP status, Pagoda 13 , etc) which I appreciate very much.
Volker wrote on 09/09/2018 at 18:38
And in the thread with the reportage, I think the Gj team (Matthias and Daniel) came across very nervous.
Quote: We'll just build something else then. Since I don't gamble myself anymore anyway, I see the whole thing even exciting and positive, because then a new stage of life would start for me. With new challenges, new topics, etc. End quote.
Why such a reaction. Nice very strange. Do they see the ship sinking already?
I think meanwhile, the forum here is a pure fake I believe here at all more nothing.
Who is a fake? Are you a fake? Are you real yourself? Yes? But everyone else is not real? Matrix? You are this portal! Every single one of you. You can express yourselves freely here and almost everything is tolerated. What should be a fake about it?
And of course, both I and Matthias are a bit nervous at the moment. What do you think? It is not panic but nervousness in any case. The market is currently developing rather negatively in all directions. Discussions about bans, some casinos disappearing from the market and who knows, maybe online gambling will not be regulated in the end, but banned. Unfortunately, there is absolute chaos at the moment because the state gambling providers do not want to lose their monopoly (which they will in the end - ban or not - but either way). The only question is by whom they will lose their monopoly? By organized crime (in the case of a ban) or by private, properly licensed Online Casinos (in the case of regulation).
Of course, with a ban on online casinos, this portal would no longer be financially viable - unless, like 90% of all casino sites, we started to work with truly dubious online casinos. Of course, there is currently the danger that the turnover goes completely to 0 from one day to the next. And then? How to pay the running costs? How do you make sure that our employees, who also have a family to support, don't lose their jobs? If a website grows and if you attach importance to the technical and content quality, then the running costs also grow. Running this portal now costs at least €13,000 a month. These are only the fixed costs for the employees, technology, accounting and so on.
Somewhere this money has to come from and there is no other way of financing in this industry than through Affiliate income. If online casinos were banned in Germany from one day to the next, then we would immediately, including our own living expenses, make a loss of 20,000 € per month and there would not be a cent more coming in. You can possibly calculate how long this portal could still be operated in the worst case.
What should we do in view of these facts? See the danger, bury our heads in the sand, just wait and see, send the worst-case employees to the employment office, return to Germany and first apply for Hartz-4? That is one option. The other option is to start thinking in other directions and try to see the whole thing positively. My view of the whole problem is as follows:
It is unfortunately not possible at the moment to invest more money in this portal, hire new employees, etc. because of the current uncertainties. It p**ses me off that we have fought our way up over the years, over many obstacles, and shortly after that everything may soon be gone? We have put a lot of time and passion into this portal and have worked honestly compared to almost everyone else in this industry. The others have cashed in, we would unfortunately have had only a comparatively short success in the word case.
It sucks but that's the way it is! You just have to accept the reality, see the dangers but still not bury your head in the sand and wait depressively until possibly the worst case occurs. With it nobody is helped. Of course, we have to think about how we can financially cushion the worst case of a temporary or total online gambling ban. In the best case scenario, we could use another project to cover the costs of this project as long as the online gambling market remains banned (if a ban were to occur and if this ban were temporary).
I and Matthias are basically different people with different views and therefore I can only speak for my person. I try to see the whole thing positively, as an opportunity and a challenge. And maybe it would be even better for me personally, due to my past, if an online gambling ban comes and thus sooner or later this portal unfortunately also disappears. Who knows? If I didn't see the whole thing that way, then I could already lay a rope next to my bed and wait for Day X.
I can understand your concerns and just because I was no longer online and the picture is indeed strange, I might have reacted even
reacted similarly.
Here is my story & the reason for the thread:
Story:
Saturday morning I drove my girlfriend to work around 5:30am
Shortly after 6:00 I started to play... I think around 20 after I had several bonus games and finally hit the jackpot.
84T € ... At first I was not happy. (Yes, I really am.) I just wrote to my girlfriend and spammed her with things like "iejhguisegjnsegnsujeg".
I could not quite grasp that and have first thought about whether this is now real. After that, my credit was not a number but "NAN" I think.
Then I went to see if I could pay out anything. I then wrote to the support where I was told I had to verify me (was new to me, more on that in a moment.).
I did that and then the day took its course. I told my closest circle about it and was somehow happy on the one hand and paranoid on the other. At this point it was more euphoria and less fear. I looked on the Internet for things I would like to buy and looked at my bank on the homepage for information on investments.
I abbreviate here the next 3 days as follows:
I had extreme paranoia, mood swings and lack of sleep. The reason: I was so extremely into it that I really panicked that I would now be completely
completely fooled by Rizk and that I will never see the money. I wrote to the support 3 times a day and there was always something... "Will be processed" "will take 24-48 hours"...
then they said the manager has to look over it for such a win and in the end I forgot 2 documents. (Was really like that. Only uploaded one page of my perso in the beginning. Was confused and just excited)
On payout day I had written to support again and also pointed out that I was already being stalled for 4 days. Then I waited about 15 minutes until an answer came (it came only that this is checked for me.) Then I was immediately told that everything is fine and I can expect my payout.
That was also so. Instant payout through Paypal. PayPal account was immediately sealed and had to be verified with correct personal data. But was done immediately & then transferred to the account. Was the next day already there. (I sent it around noon and it was the next afternoon on the account)
The largest part is deposited at the bank in case anyone is wondering.
To the play behavior:
Online casinos were actually nothing familiar for me. Now and then times in gambling houses (5-10€) and rarely times on online casinos.
In total, I come maybe MAXIMUM on a total Deposit of 200 €
Of this at Rizk I think so 150€. Vlt. a little less. Is now very far fetched and rounded up.
When I hit the Jackpot, I had already played Hall of Gods for 5 hours (I think).
The next morning came the jackpot after I think 15 minutes or 20.
Have only been playing for about 1-2 weeks and always rather low Risk (20ct - 1€)
Thread:
I myself have been searching for a long time for terms like: "Jackpot Payout Rizk" "Verification Risk" "Rizk Serious" "Rizk Manager" etc.
Have often come across these typical Wunderino threads and I also got pretty sick. At some point I did not expect the money anymore
and have me there totally reingesteigert. The verification took too long in my opinion for the moment but in hindsight it was totally legitimate.
I want to give here with really only everyone a positive effect: That you don't have sleepless nights due to doubts like I did
Gladly I bring further proofs. That the Jackpot went down above on 13T I cannot explain myself!
The picture I have photographed with my phone in a hurry to send it immediately to my girlfriend via WhatsApp.
The 5000€ were because you can choose on Paypal (Was my deposit method) only always 5000€ per payout. Therefore just so many payouts.
The two different sums result from the bonus games there came (I think) something with 50€ in addition. For this I can but gladly in the history look up as the
Wins were exactly!
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Highfish wrote on 09/09/2018 at 21:56: Hi everyone!
I can understand your concerns and just because I was no longer online and the picture is indeed strange I might have even
reacted similarly.
Here is my story & the reason for the thread:
Story:
Saturday morning I drove my girlfriend to work around 5:30am
Shortly after 6:00 I started playing... I think around 20 after I had several bonus games and finally hit the jackpot.
84T € ... At first I was not happy. (Yes, I really am.) I just wrote to my girlfriend and spammed her with things like "iejhguisegjnsegnsujeg".
I could not quite grasp that and have first thought about whether this is now real. After that, my credit was not a number but "NAN" I think.
Then I went to see if I could pay out anything. I then wrote to the support where I was told I had to verify me (was new to me, more on that in a moment.).
I did that and then the day took its course. I told my closest circle about it and was somehow happy on the one hand and paranoid on the other hand. At this point it was more euphoria and less fear. I looked on the Internet for things I would like to buy and looked at my bank on the homepage for information on investments.
I abbreviate here the next 3 days as follows:
I had extreme paranoia, mood swings and lack of sleep. The reason: I was so extremely into it that I was really panicking that I was now being
completely fooled by Rizk and that I will never see the money. I wrote to the support 3 times a day and there was always something... "Will be processed" "will take 24-48 hours"...
then they said the manager has to look over it for such a win and in the end I forgot 2 documents. (Was really like that. Only uploaded one page of my perso in the beginning. Was confused and just excited)
On payout day I had written to support again and also pointed out that I was already being stalled for 4 days. Then I waited about 15 minutes until an answer came (it came only that this is checked for me.) Then I was immediately told that everything is fine and I can expect my payout.
That was also so. Instant payout through Paypal. PayPal account was immediately sealed and had to be verified with correct personal data. But was done immediately & then transferred to the account. Was the next day already there. (I sent it around noon and it was the next afternoon on the account)
The largest part is deposited at the bank in case anyone is wondering.
To the play behavior:
Online casinos were actually nothing familiar for me. Now and then times in gambling houses (5-10€) and rarely times on online casinos.
In total, I come maybe MAXIMUM on a total Deposit of 200 €
Of this at Rizk I think so 150€. Vlt. a little less. Is now very far fetched and rounded up.
When I hit the Jackpot, I had already played Hall of Gods for 5 hours (I think).
The next morning came the jackpot after I think 15 minutes or 20.
Have only been playing for about 1-2 weeks and always rather low Risk (20ct - 1€)
Thread:
I myself have been searching for a long time for terms like: "Jackpot Payout Rizk" "Verification Risk" "Rizk Serious" "Rizk Manager" etc.
Have often come across these typical Wunderino threads and I also got pretty sick. At some point I did not expect the money anymore
and have me there totally reingesteigert. The verification took too long in my opinion for the moment but in hindsight it was totally legitimate.
I want to give here with really only everyone a positive effect: That you don't have sleepless nights due to doubts like I did
Gladly I bring further proofs. That the Jackpot went down above on 13T I cannot explain myself!
The picture I have photographed with my phone in a hurry to send it immediately to my girlfriend via WhatsApp.
The 5000€ were because you can choose on Paypal (Was my deposit method) only always 5000€ per payout. Therefore just so many payouts.
The two different sums result from the bonus games there came (I think) something with 50€ in addition. For this I can but gladly in the history look up as the
Wins were exactly!
So a bullshit, if you have not noticed, it was already found out that your picture of the jackpot is faked
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My PayPal account has a limit of 8,000 euros that I can transfer to my account. Is that different for you ?
Danielowitch wrote on 09/09/2018 at 22:23
Such bullshit, in case you didn't catch it, it was already found out that your picture of the Jackpot is fake.
Is that so? Can you please clarify that again, how you can tell that the winning picture was faked?
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Two questions:
Daniel, to what extent and why is a possible ban on OC gambling looming, i.e., even more prohibited than it already is?
Highfish, why is the midi Jackpot in your photo at 13,000 something?
Zockertyp89 wrote on 09/09/2018 at 22:36
Ne mean the amount I can transfer from PayPal to my account.
I do not know that, did not even know that there is a limit ^^ But if I win something big at sunmaker and that would pay out via Paypal, I would probably also have to split my win into several 5000 euros like TE.
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Thank you for your detailed words! Please keep us up to date.
I'm a skeptical person by nature, having been screwed here and there when I was a naive gambling establishment patron. That's why this distrust.
It was strengthened in that respect regarding the streamers and the exorbitant wins.
But I must also say, at that time there were still other forums online and these have always extremely annoying and intrusive advertising in the form of POP Ups or advertised by VIP accesses. Of course, this also cost money accordingly (monthly fee lol).
Here everything is free, even from advertising (pop ups, VIP status, Pagoda 13 , etc) which I appreciate very much.
In this regard, this forum is really TOP.
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Who is a fake? Are you a fake? Are you real yourself? Yes? But everyone else is not real? Matrix? You are this portal! Every single one of you. You can express yourselves freely here and almost everything is tolerated. What should be a fake about it?
And of course, both I and Matthias are a bit nervous at the moment. What do you think? It is not panic but nervousness in any case. The market is currently developing rather negatively in all directions. Discussions about bans, some casinos disappearing from the market and who knows, maybe online gambling will not be regulated in the end, but banned. Unfortunately, there is absolute chaos at the moment because the state gambling providers do not want to lose their monopoly (which they will in the end - ban or not - but either way). The only question is by whom they will lose their monopoly? By organized crime (in the case of a ban) or by private, properly licensed Online Casinos (in the case of regulation).
Of course, with a ban on online casinos, this portal would no longer be financially viable - unless, like 90% of all casino sites, we started to work with truly dubious online casinos. Of course, there is currently the danger that the turnover goes completely to 0 from one day to the next. And then? How to pay the running costs? How do you make sure that our employees, who also have a family to support, don't lose their jobs? If a website grows and if you attach importance to the technical and content quality, then the running costs also grow. Running this portal now costs at least €13,000 a month. These are only the fixed costs for the employees, technology, accounting and so on.
Somewhere this money has to come from and there is no other way of financing in this industry than through Affiliate income. If online casinos were banned in Germany from one day to the next, then we would immediately, including our own living expenses, make a loss of 20,000 € per month and there would not be a cent more coming in. You can possibly calculate how long this portal could still be operated in the worst case.
What should we do in view of these facts? See the danger, bury our heads in the sand, just wait and see, send the worst-case employees to the employment office, return to Germany and first apply for Hartz-4? That is one option. The other option is to start thinking in other directions and try to see the whole thing positively. My view of the whole problem is as follows:
It is unfortunately not possible at the moment to invest more money in this portal, hire new employees, etc. because of the current uncertainties. It p**ses me off that we have fought our way up over the years, over many obstacles, and shortly after that everything may soon be gone? We have put a lot of time and passion into this portal and have worked honestly compared to almost everyone else in this industry. The others have cashed in, we would unfortunately have had only a comparatively short success in the word case.
It sucks but that's the way it is! You just have to accept the reality, see the dangers but still not bury your head in the sand and wait depressively until possibly the worst case occurs. With it nobody is helped. Of course, we have to think about how we can financially cushion the worst case of a temporary or total online gambling ban. In the best case scenario, we could use another project to cover the costs of this project as long as the online gambling market remains banned (if a ban were to occur and if this ban were temporary).
I and Matthias are basically different people with different views and therefore I can only speak for my person. I try to see the whole thing positively, as an opportunity and a challenge. And maybe it would be even better for me personally, due to my past, if an online gambling ban comes and thus sooner or later this portal unfortunately also disappears. Who knows? If I didn't see the whole thing that way, then I could already lay a rope next to my bed and wait for Day X.
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I can understand your concerns and just because I was no longer online and the picture is indeed strange, I might have reacted even
reacted similarly.
Here is my story & the reason for the thread:
Story:
Saturday morning I drove my girlfriend to work around 5:30am
Shortly after 6:00 I started to play... I think around 20 after I had several bonus games and finally hit the jackpot.
84T € ... At first I was not happy. (Yes, I really am.) I just wrote to my girlfriend and spammed her with things like "iejhguisegjnsegnsujeg".
I could not quite grasp that and have first thought about whether this is now real. After that, my credit was not a number but "NAN" I think.
Then I went to see if I could pay out anything. I then wrote to the support where I was told I had to verify me (was new to me, more on that in a moment.).
I did that and then the day took its course. I told my closest circle about it and was somehow happy on the one hand and paranoid on the other. At this point it was more euphoria and less fear. I looked on the Internet for things I would like to buy and looked at my bank on the homepage for information on investments.
I abbreviate here the next 3 days as follows:
I had extreme paranoia, mood swings and lack of sleep. The reason: I was so extremely into it that I really panicked that I would now be completely
completely fooled by Rizk and that I will never see the money. I wrote to the support 3 times a day and there was always something... "Will be processed" "will take 24-48 hours"...
then they said the manager has to look over it for such a win and in the end I forgot 2 documents. (Was really like that. Only uploaded one page of my perso in the beginning. Was confused and just excited)
On payout day I had written to support again and also pointed out that I was already being stalled for 4 days. Then I waited about 15 minutes until an answer came (it came only that this is checked for me.) Then I was immediately told that everything is fine and I can expect my payout.
That was also so. Instant payout through Paypal. PayPal account was immediately sealed and had to be verified with correct personal data. But was done immediately & then transferred to the account. Was the next day already there. (I sent it around noon and it was the next afternoon on the account)
The largest part is deposited at the bank in case anyone is wondering.
To the play behavior:
Online casinos were actually nothing familiar for me. Now and then times in gambling houses (5-10€) and rarely times on online casinos.
In total, I come maybe MAXIMUM on a total Deposit of 200 €
Of this at Rizk I think so 150€. Vlt. a little less. Is now very far fetched and rounded up.
When I hit the Jackpot, I had already played Hall of Gods for 5 hours (I think).
The next morning came the jackpot after I think 15 minutes or 20.
Have only been playing for about 1-2 weeks and always rather low Risk (20ct - 1€)
Thread:
I myself have been searching for a long time for terms like: "Jackpot Payout Rizk" "Verification Risk" "Rizk Serious" "Rizk Manager" etc.
Have often come across these typical Wunderino threads and I also got pretty sick. At some point I did not expect the money anymore
and have me there totally reingesteigert. The verification took too long in my opinion for the moment but in hindsight it was totally legitimate.
I want to give here with really only everyone a positive effect: That you don't have sleepless nights due to doubts like I did
Gladly I bring further proofs. That the Jackpot went down above on 13T I cannot explain myself!
The picture I have photographed with my phone in a hurry to send it immediately to my girlfriend via WhatsApp.
The 5000€ were because you can choose on Paypal (Was my deposit method) only always 5000€ per payout. Therefore just so many payouts.
The two different sums result from the bonus games there came (I think) something with 50€ in addition. For this I can but gladly in the history look up as the
Wins were exactly!
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So a bullshit, if you have not noticed, it was already found out that your picture of the jackpot is faked
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Is that so? Can you please clarify that again, how you can tell that the winning picture was faked?
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Daniel, to what extent and why is a possible ban on OC gambling looming, i.e., even more prohibited than it already is?
Highfish, why is the midi Jackpot in your photo at 13,000 something?
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Yes, at sunmaker it is also limited to 5000 euros.
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Ne mean the amount I can transfer from PayPal to my account
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I do not know that, did not even know that there is a limit ^^ But if I win something big at sunmaker and that would pay out via Paypal, I would probably also have to split my win into several 5000 euros like TE.
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