Peter8 wrote on 06.03.2022 at 14:56: per 10c spin is the 0.6 cent fee at 1 euro 6 cent
let's say you win 100 euro on 10c and don't pay out 1000x win, keep playing and lose
your tax levy is 6 euro
so i don't think the casinos care or did i calculate wrong? i calculated it with 6% tax
The calculation would be correct if you then make a single 100€ spin and lose
Assuming you continue to play on 10 cents until you arrive at 0, the calculation would look like this. All rounded approximate values for simplicity:
Let's just assume a RTP of 90%, then you will manage 10.000 spins on 10 cents until the 100€ are gone. That means you have 10.000*0.10€= 1000€ total stake. From this you have paid 53€ in taxes at 5.3%
zocker1414 wrote on 06.03.2022 at 14:09
If you see youth protection so easy that the state should release porn for all, then runs there but
By the way look at the paragraph 184 StGB, if you already say about illegal wrong!
Porn to young people is just as illegal. Again, inform you first correctly.
Access to young people of porn is ok, or what?
what crooked! Of course only for Germans. Other countries, other laws, should be logical.
Since quite a lot of garbage comes from you, this was now my last comment in this thread.
Sure, all criticize and complain, but almost no one has the ass in the pants, and emigrates.
There are too many advantages for that. Draws but times consequences from your opinion
about the German state!
So garbage I have read so far only from you but if you no longer write here is of course for all a win.
You do not understand at all what it is all about. It's not just about a poor porn site but generally about the adults are patronized and Internet censorship can extend to other areas if such a system is in place.
The good old salami tactic.
It is also perfectly fine for me if you blindly and submissively agree to everything that comes from an authority
Fortunately, there are also people who are more critical and to whom freedom and individuality means something.
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6th Mar. 2022, at 04:12 pm CET#33
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DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 06/03/2022 at 15:07
The math would be right if you then made a single 100€ spin and lost
Assuming you keep playing on 10 cents until you get to 0 the calculation would look like this. All rounded approximate values for simplicity:
Let's just assume a RTP of 90%, then you will manage 10.000 spins on 10 cents until the 100€ are gone. That means you have 10.000*0.10€= 1000€ total stake. From this you have paid 53€ in taxes at 5.3%.
you are right buddy, there was the mistake^^
full violent the tax comes a little before but adds up so high if you play longer
now you will be deducted from the casino and state but you have to say fairer white that gambling halls also have to pay hefty extra tax
there come the Online Casinos from malta better off
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6th Mar. 2022, at 04:30 pm CET#34
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Krabbenburger wrote on 06.03.2022 at 15:32
So garbage I've only read from you so far but if you stop writing here it's a win for everyone of course .
You do not understand at all what it is all about . It's not just about a pathetic porn site but in general about adults being patronized and internet censorship can spread to other areas once such a system is in place.
The good old salami tactic.
It is also perfectly fine for me if you blindly and submissively agree to everything that comes from an authority
Fortunately, there are also people who are more critical and to whom freedom and individuality means something.
why are you talking about porn?
and of course that must be kept away from children
every normal person who thinks about it for 5 minutes will see that, the confirm that you are 18 click is not a protection
and I'm surprised that they are only now going over the providers, internet censorship is bullshit but you have to protect the youth
what is on these porn sites is abnormal and then still advertising for casinos so a 14j has nothing to look for on these pages
am also on pages on the road with stuff and so what, also do not want the blocked, you're right that once they start by the Provider no longer stop but for society it is now important things to recognize and act, which they do and is right
you can not be against these sites to block or a reasonable system to confirm the age
so I have no children but I would have some I even more for it ^^
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6th Mar. 2022, at 04:38 pm CET#35
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xaan2012 wrote on 06/03/2022 at 11:32 AM
N1 takes taxes and still has subterranean RTPs that do NOT come close to given RTps in 95% of all cases, game rounds and sessions.
The 95.3% I would call deadspinqoute....
if you play as a lowRoler and must first Deposit 100 to see times RTP that comes close to 80%, rather bad and is actually demonstrably consistently so^^
It can also be that you first have to make at least 100,000 spins to get close to the theoretical Rtp's.
Not after only 100 euros or 10,000 spins
In monetary values you must not calculate with slots anyway, because the factors behind the free spins are fixed. Not the win. Except for progressive jackpots.
And I find it runs exactly the same with the tax. I don't notice any difference in the games, at least in which the RTP has not been lowered. Except that you can make less spins for your money or a little shorter playing time
But the factors are still the same bad/good.
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6th Mar. 2022, at 04:50 pm CET#36
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Peter8 wrote on 06/03/2022 at 16:30
why are you talking about porn?
and of course that must be kept away from children
every normal human being who thinks about it for 5 minutes will see it that way,the confirm that you are 18 click is not a protection
and I'm surprised that they are only now going over the providers, internet censorship is bullshit but you have to protect the youth
what is on these porn sites is abnormal and then still advertising for casinos so a 14j has nothing to look for on these pages
am also on pages on the road with stuff and so what, also do not want the blocked, you're right that once they start by the Provider no longer stop but for society it is now important to recognize things and to act, which they do and is right
you can not be against these sites to block or a reasonable system to confirm the age
so I have no children but I would have some I even more for it ^^
Absolutely these sites are dirt but I still think that everyone who wants to can look at it if he is an adult.
If there but an ID must be uploaded, you can immediately close the page. Who would send a photo of his ID to such a dubious site?
Apart from that it is just mega pointless if you block one of 10,000 pages.
The whole discussion is off topic .
Was originally about the fact that soon also casino sites will be made inaccessible by the state.
Probably from summer .
And there we are again on the subject that if you start with Internet censorship it goes on and on and becomes more.
5.3% taxes are destroying online casinos and therefore need to be abolished...
6th Mar. 2022, at 05:11 pm CET#37
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Krabbenburger wrote on 06.03.2022 at 16:50
Absolutely these pages are dirt but I still find that anyone who wants to look at it can if he is an adult.
If there but an ID must be uploaded, you can immediately close the page. Who would send a photo of his ID to such a dubious site?
Apart from that it is just mega pointless if you block one of 10,000 pages.
The whole discussion is off topic .
Was originally about the fact that soon also casino sites will be made inaccessible by the state.
Probably from summer .
And there we are again on the subject that if you start with Internet censorship it goes on and on and becomes more.
sure you're right there are always alternatives but they are not so well known and it will never be as it was once, Kenn da so a bespiele the best known is kinox which was yes kino.to are still blocked by vodafon and also some donwload sites that every day 400.000 dl had been blocked but here it was lawyers and not the state and it also does not itch, well wants to go to the point that they have tried to go online again but the clicks were gone so it makes quite a bit of clear vpn and dns change will be there a bigger issue with the youth but impact will have denoch
who was ever in Turkey on vacation, knows that it is there so that everything is blocked in any kind of dangerous could be in the tv is even alk and tobacco blurt
they are ne number to care liability and here in germany could be made more for youth protection, generally Gambling addiction halt also but here is just always money above all^^
but can understand your ansiecht, see it actually so but with certain things wa just have to make compromises that do not fit us
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6th Mar. 2022, at 05:24 pm CET#38
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Krabbenburger wrote on 06.03.2022 at 16:50
Absolutely these pages are dirt but I still find that anyone who wants to look at it can if he is an adult.
If there but an ID must be uploaded, you can immediately close the page. Who would send a photo of his ID to such a dubious site?
Apart from that it is just mega pointless if you block one of 10,000 pages.
The whole discussion is off topic .
Was originally about the fact that soon also casino sites will be made inaccessible by the state.
Probably from summer .
And there we are again on the subject that if you start with Internet censorship it goes on and on and becomes more.
Yes exactly back to the original topic here also think unfortunately that from summer or no later than the end of the year it will come to blocking then yes probably all Curacao casinos unfortunately.
On the other hand, once said the Curacao casinos sit in the Caribbean what interested the da the German laws
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Sebi123 wrote on 06.03.2022 at 17:24
Yes exactly back to the original topic here also think unfortunately that from summer or no later than the end of the year it will come to blocking then yes probably all Curacao casinos unfortunately.
On the other hand, once said the Curacao casinos sit in the Caribbean what interested the da the German laws.
gings not originally about the tax? well there we say ma nothing to ne haha
but it's also egaaal, and the blockade can be bypassed with any proxy and vpn and Deposit is just somehow already clear
so do not be sad, the good people of the casino no matter where whether malta, Curaçao, there is still sone island but if one is bockiert away, a new one is made, could then be cumbersome if they go to the banks and Internet providers,but do not assume that the sites will be blocked rather the companies are put under pressure as paysafe because already so some other companies heard all what has to do with casino and deposit, such as this user account at psc and this whole Verification, that comes not by chance
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But VPN is but if I understood it correctly in hardly any casino allowed according to the terms and conditions or it can then be denied a withdrawal because it gets the casino apparently with whether vpn was used or not.
Or at least until now maybe the casinos change the yes then still because of....
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The calculation would be correct if you then make a single 100€ spin and lose
Assuming you continue to play on 10 cents until you arrive at 0, the calculation would look like this. All rounded approximate values for simplicity:
Let's just assume a RTP of 90%, then you will manage 10.000 spins on 10 cents until the 100€ are gone. That means you have 10.000*0.10€= 1000€ total stake. From this you have paid 53€ in taxes at 5.3%
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So garbage I have read so far only from you but if you no longer write here is of course for all a win.
You do not understand at all what it is all about. It's not just about a poor porn site but generally about the adults are patronized and Internet censorship can extend to other areas if such a system is in place.
The good old salami tactic.
It is also perfectly fine for me if you blindly and submissively agree to everything that comes from an authority
Fortunately, there are also people who are more critical and to whom freedom and individuality means something.
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you are right buddy, there was the mistake^^
full violent the tax comes a little before but adds up so high if you play longer
now you will be deducted from the casino and state but you have to say fairer white that gambling halls also have to pay hefty extra tax
there come the Online Casinos from malta better off
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why are you talking about porn?
and of course that must be kept away from children
every normal person who thinks about it for 5 minutes will see that, the confirm that you are 18 click is not a protection
and I'm surprised that they are only now going over the providers, internet censorship is bullshit but you have to protect the youth
what is on these porn sites is abnormal and then still advertising for casinos so a 14j has nothing to look for on these pages
am also on pages on the road with stuff and so what, also do not want the blocked, you're right that once they start by the Provider no longer stop but for society it is now important things to recognize and act, which they do and is right
you can not be against these sites to block or a reasonable system to confirm the age
so I have no children but I would have some I even more for it ^^
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It can also be that you first have to make at least 100,000 spins to get close to the theoretical Rtp's.
Not after only 100 euros or 10,000 spins
In monetary values you must not calculate with slots anyway, because the factors behind the free spins are fixed. Not the win. Except for progressive jackpots.
And I find it runs exactly the same with the tax. I don't notice any difference in the games, at least in which the RTP has not been lowered. Except that you can make less spins for your money or a little shorter playing time
But the factors are still the same bad/good.
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Absolutely these sites are dirt but I still think that everyone who wants to can look at it if he is an adult.
If there but an ID must be uploaded, you can immediately close the page. Who would send a photo of his ID to such a dubious site?
Apart from that it is just mega pointless if you block one of 10,000 pages.
The whole discussion is off topic .
Was originally about the fact that soon also casino sites will be made inaccessible by the state.
Probably from summer .
And there we are again on the subject that if you start with Internet censorship it goes on and on and becomes more.
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sure you're right there are always alternatives but they are not so well known and it will never be as it was once, Kenn da so a bespiele the best known is kinox which was yes kino.to are still blocked by vodafon and also some donwload sites that every day 400.000 dl had been blocked but here it was lawyers and not the state and it also does not itch, well wants to go to the point that they have tried to go online again but the clicks were gone so it makes quite a bit of clear vpn and dns change will be there a bigger issue with the youth but impact will have denoch
who was ever in Turkey on vacation, knows that it is there so that everything is blocked in any kind of dangerous could be in the tv is even alk and tobacco blurt
they are ne number to care liability and here in germany could be made more for youth protection, generally Gambling addiction halt also but here is just always money above all^^
but can understand your ansiecht, see it actually so but with certain things wa just have to make compromises that do not fit us
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Yes exactly back to the original topic here also think unfortunately that from summer or no later than the end of the year it will come to blocking then yes probably all Curacao casinos unfortunately.
On the other hand, once said the Curacao casinos sit in the Caribbean what interested the da the German laws
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gings not originally about the tax? well there we say ma nothing to ne haha
but it's also egaaal, and the blockade can be bypassed with any proxy and vpn and Deposit is just somehow already clear
so do not be sad, the good people of the casino no matter where whether malta, Curaçao, there is still sone island but if one is bockiert away, a new one is made, could then be cumbersome if they go to the banks and Internet providers,but do not assume that the sites will be blocked rather the companies are put under pressure as paysafe because already so some other companies heard all what has to do with casino and deposit, such as this user account at psc and this whole Verification, that comes not by chance
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Or at least until now maybe the casinos change the yes then still because of....
Gladly of course correct who something is wrong
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