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10th Apr. 2022, at 01:45 pm CEST#11

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StarGames_Official wrote on 10.04.2022 at 13:28: https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Standardartikel/Themen/Steuern/Steuerschaetzungen_und_Steuereinnahmen/2022-03-22-steuereinnahmen-februar-2022.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=2

The information is on page 5 in the middle and shows that it is paid by many providers

why does Hesse collect almost 100% virtual machine tax and all others, except for Rhineland-Palatinate (minimal share), go completely empty handed?

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10th Apr. 2022, at 01:49 pm CEST#12

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Marlboroman wrote on 10.04.2022 at 13:45
why does Hesse collect almost 100% virtual machine tax and all others, except for Rhineland-Palatinate (minimal share), go completely empty-handed?

Because according to the Racing and Lottery Tax Act (where the virtual machine tax is also regulated) it has to be paid for the whole federal territory in Hesse (Frankfurt)

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10th Apr. 2022, at 02:44 pm CEST#13

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well, but so far no one checks it anyway!?how could?the authority doesn't really exist yet so what the taxes are remains their secret..but in the end, whether the tax is paid or not - they are all swimming in money anyway & are unlikely to go bankrupt if they pay the tax as prescribed

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10th Apr. 2022, at 04:30 pm CEST#14

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Now it would be exciting to know who is already paying taxes. Is it only Tipico and co that already have a sports license? Or also those who adhere to all other requirements? StarGames for example?

And what about those who only withhold the tax but ignore all other rules so far? N1, Platin, etc.?

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10th Apr. 2022, at 06:31 pm CEST#15

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I think times that also Platin etc.. If they do not do that and withhold the money under the pretext you would raise spin tax, that would be fraud and then also tax evasion.think times they will not be so stupid.because when it comes to taxes know most states no fun, as here in good old Germany...

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10th Apr. 2022, at 06:49 pm CEST#16

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i agree with you, but I'm really not sure about Platin. because they don't implement the other rules either

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10th Apr. 2022, at 07:09 pm CEST#17

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I think that's because they have German players.The German license do not want anyway and there will be such an in-between.Normally, but then be done when's once the licenses.That will be exciting as the solution.Then actually all casinos that have no license in Germany here illegally.Eu or not.

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10th Apr. 2022, at 07:23 pm CEST#18

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Eddie wrote on 10.04.2022 at 18:31 clock: I think times the platinum etc.. If they do not do that and withhold the money under the pretext you would raise spin tax, that would be fraud and then also tax evasion.Think times they will not be so stupid.Because when it comes to taxes know most states no fun, as well as here in good old Germany...

Yes, that's true, but Germany has as far as I as a layman can judge that also no possibilities to collect taxes abroad.
Apart from that was until before the GlüStV and also now in the transition period where casinos with the 5 sec rule etc are tolerated but others are still illegal (so platin etc).... So the offer ne service that is neither legal here nor in the tolerance range, why should they care that they commit tax evasion?
Also if you look at the imprint... there are missing mandatory information etc...
Malta dances the whole world on the nose around what taxes and so on. Why should the casinos do it differently? ^^

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10th Apr. 2022, at 07:45 pm CEST#19

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I am also only a layman. But then it is fraud against the German players.that means we can get together, take a lawyer who knows Eu law and sue them..😀

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10th Apr. 2022, at 08:20 pm CEST#20

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Eddie wrote on 10.04.2022 at 19:45: I am also just a layman. But then it is fraud on the German players.That means we can get together, get a lawyer who knows Eu law and sue them..😀

If there were realistic chances for this I would be there^^

But that's just as effective as suing Putin in the Hague at the international court. As long as he stays with his ass in Russia, no one can hold him accountable.
As long as "Carlo Borg" ("Director" of Red Rhino ltd) is abroad, Germany will hardly be able to put an end to his activities
I mean try they do it already... anyway Vodafone has eb ne DNS block (lol) for all casino sites set up. Come with certain people who have Vodafone Inet not even on GJ when I'm in their Wifi. To circumvent the lock itself is of course ridiculously easy, but you just have to know it. (and not all do) xD

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