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3rd Aug. 2018, at 01:18 pm CEST#31
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Casino, because people basically strive for more coal and win.
Whether a manager gets €30,000 a month or €60,000, for example, makes a huge difference
Huge difference. Especially when it's made so easy.
Especially because it has already been established that the OC has been infiltrated by the mafia.
Precisely because the MGA carries out its controls more than laxly.
There are enough internet findings for that.
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Malta has repeatedly blocked all moves to combat money laundering related to organized crime. When the country held the EU presidency earlier this year and the Money Laundering Directive was being renegotiated, the island nation prevented meaningful reforms.
It is no secret that in Malta, for example, mafia money is laundered in online gambling. In total, the turnover generated in this way accounts for up to twelve percent of the gross domestic product, which is ten times higher than the EU average! The Italian mafia, especially the 'Ndrangheta, is accordingly active in Malta, which includes letterbox companies. I have no evidence that certain politicians work directly with the Mafia. E s, however, there have been corruption cases in Malta in recent years involving government politicians. Through the Panama Papers ministers could be linked to offshore accounts. They are still in office.
And through the MGA:
The so-called "Daphne Project", published as a collaborative effort by several media outlets, makes serious allegations against Malta's gambling regulation. The Italian mafia is said to have undermined it and to earn millions every year with lax control by the authorities.
I think that is more than enough, isn't it? How much more proof do you need?
And this is surely only the Tip of the iceberg!
Why they do not unpack? Because they are contractually bound to secrecy for years, even in the event of termination!
There are high contractual penalties!
Also here is a user, who got to feel this at the own body.
It is therefore no invention of me!
stkrie wrote on 03/08/2018 at 13:18: casino because people are basically looking for more coal and win.
For example, whether a manager gets 30,000€ a month or 60,000€ is a
Huge difference. Especially when it is made so easy for you.
Just because it has already been established that the OC has been infiltrated by the mafia.
Precisely because the MGA carries out its controls more than laxly.
There are enough internet findings for that.
e.g. Quote:
Malta has repeatedly blocked all moves to combat money laundering related to organized crime. When the country held the EU presidency earlier this year and the Money Laundering Directive was being renegotiated, the island nation prevented meaningful reforms.
It is no secret that in Malta, for example, mafia money is laundered in online gambling. In total, the revenue generated in this way accounts for up to twelve percent of the gross domestic product, which is ten times higher than the EU average! The Italian mafia, especially the 'Ndrangheta, is accordingly active in Malta, which includes shell companies. I have no evidence that certain politicians work directly with the Mafia. E s, however, there have been corruption cases in Malta in recent years involving government politicians. Through the Panama Papers ministers could be linked to offshore accounts. They are still in office.
And through the MGA:
The so-called "Daphne Project", published as a collaborative effort by several media outlets, makes serious allegations against Malta's gambling regulation. The Italian mafia is said to have undermined it and to earn millions every year with lax control by the authorities.
I think that is more than enough, isn't it? How much more proof do you need?
And this is surely only the Tip of the iceberg!
Well but how do I know now if slot XY was manipulated? Especially since some slot manufacturers also have licenses from the British regulatory authority and the random generators are tested by some testing organizations. How is the fraud supposed to work in practice?
There are also ways to unpack without anyone finding out who did it.
What are you affected by?
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3rd Aug. 2018, at 01:35 pm CEST#33
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I'm talking about the Maltese one. If the controls were lax, or even if bribes were paid, the games manufacturers would be in
also the game manufacturers are in cahoots. Think that the evidence in such a court case
would be very difficult, because probably certain documents would be untraceable. And whether the RTP is 97 or 77
77%, neither a layman nor a professional could find out, because it only affects the entire duration of the slot
affects or settles.
And who should find that out?
But if you read the articles like this, the Maltese authority does not make it very difficult for you,
to cheat
I am not affected by anything, but I turn on my brain and do not believe everything in this world.
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32Red - a real juice store
3rd Aug. 2018, at 01:37 pm CEST#34
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CasinoManiac wrote on 03/08/2018 at 13:07
Why do casinos need to cheat? It's a foregone conclusion that they're going to win in the long run anyway. If it's all fraud, why doesn't some employee come clean - there are frustrated people everywhere who want to harm a company the corporation etc..
@ Kopfkino: How can you tell that Automat has been manipulated? I have really no idea (technically now) therefore I would be interested, where one makes that firmly. Or are all machines where you do not win 100% manipulated?
Nobody needs to ask the question "why". Don't you want to earn more money? Corporations like Nestle are a good example of this.
It is not only clear in advance that the casinos will win in the long run, but it is also clear in the short run.
Or can you prove me wrong?
Why doesn't someone spill the beans? Has anyone come clean about VW, Monsanto, etc.?
Something like this is anchored in contracts, I don't think that every simple support employee is involved in everything, the other rather few responsible people are silenced with contracts.
How can you tell that the machines are manipulated?
Switch on your brain and play consciously.
Of course, the machines can also be manipulated, from which you get a win, a common strategy.
I tried to explain it to you, but I can't expect a "madman" to understand it.
Am I now "insane" for disagreeing and not understanding the arguments?
If I claim something, I must also have proof for it. so how do I notice that a slot is manipulated. sure it can be, there are enough reports about it. but do I now put all machines under general suspicion of being manipulated?
how am i supposed to prove that something isn't rigged? isn't it normal to be innocent until you have real evidence against someone? i mean, there's a lot of emotion involved in gambling, but in the end you lose and you win again - it's just chance. if you can't handle that, maybe you should just stop gambling - if you can and want to
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32Red - a real juice store
3rd Aug. 2018, at 02:08 pm CEST#36
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There were and are for years umpteen cartels in Germany with illegal price examples.
It always came out by absolute coincidence. But has held for years, and
some will hold until today. For this I do not need evidence, that tells one the
common sense I find.
Also with VW it came out by an absolute coincidence!
Did VW with its billions have that necessary? No.
But the greed is just immeasurable!
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32Red - a real juice store
3rd Aug. 2018, at 02:16 pm CEST#37
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CasinoManiac wrote on 08/03/2018 at 13:50: Am I now "Insane" for disagreeing and not understanding the arguments?
If I claim something, I must also have evidence for it. so how do I notice that a slot is manipulated. sure that's possible, there are enough reports about it. but do I now put all machines under general suspicion to be manipulated?
how am i supposed to prove that something isn't rigged? isn't it normal to be innocent until you have real evidence against someone? i mean, there are a lot of emotions involved in gambling, but in the end you lose and you win again - it's just chance. if you can't handle that, maybe you should just stop playing - if you can and want to
Fake slots can be recognized by opening the page script. Who wants to know it exactly writes me ne message because I may not post the link to the description for the detection (other forum)
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3rd Aug. 2018, at 02:35 pm CEST#38
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CasinoManiac...
Sry... I assumed that you have deliberately chosen your profile name.
So... you are not insane or crazy, because I personally have the appearance to it, but you yourself want to be called so.
Ok... so it sounds cooler we stay with the English.
@Samira ah so that's why the quotation marks, then I misunderstood. But yes I play in casinos, to do that you must also be crazy, otherwise you would not play there.
@stkrie all well and good, but I see no evidence of manipulated slots. It's all conjecture to me at this point. Where is the proof that 32Red (or any of the other casinos mentioned) has rigged slots?
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3rd Aug. 2018, at 03:02 pm CEST#40
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Casino, for the last time, there is no direct evidence. But if you think a little,
will know the same thing. You can go on gambling for all I care. House and yard.
You can also hit the million dollar Jackpot because of me, I don't care.
If you believe that everything is done by fair means, I would keep on gambling!
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Whether a manager gets €30,000 a month or €60,000, for example, makes a huge difference
Huge difference. Especially when it's made so easy.
Especially because it has already been established that the OC has been infiltrated by the mafia.
Precisely because the MGA carries out its controls more than laxly.
There are enough internet findings for that.
e.g. Quote:
Malta has repeatedly blocked all moves to combat money laundering related to organized crime. When the country held the EU presidency earlier this year and the Money Laundering Directive was being renegotiated, the island nation prevented meaningful reforms.
It is no secret that in Malta, for example, mafia money is laundered in online gambling. In total, the turnover generated in this way accounts for up to twelve percent of the gross domestic product, which is ten times higher than the EU average! The Italian mafia, especially the 'Ndrangheta, is accordingly active in Malta, which includes letterbox companies. I have no evidence that certain politicians work directly with the Mafia. E s, however, there have been corruption cases in Malta in recent years involving government politicians. Through the Panama Papers ministers could be linked to offshore accounts. They are still in office.
And through the MGA:
The so-called "Daphne Project", published as a collaborative effort by several media outlets, makes serious allegations against Malta's gambling regulation. The Italian mafia is said to have undermined it and to earn millions every year with lax control by the authorities.
I think that is more than enough, isn't it? How much more proof do you need?
And this is surely only the Tip of the iceberg!
Why they do not unpack? Because they are contractually bound to secrecy for years, even in the event of termination!
There are high contractual penalties!
Also here is a user, who got to feel this at the own body.
It is therefore no invention of me!
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Well but how do I know now if slot XY was manipulated? Especially since some slot manufacturers also have licenses from the British regulatory authority and the random generators are tested by some testing organizations. How is the fraud supposed to work in practice?
There are also ways to unpack without anyone finding out who did it.
What are you affected by?
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also the game manufacturers are in cahoots. Think that the evidence in such a court case
would be very difficult, because probably certain documents would be untraceable. And whether the RTP is 97 or 77
77%, neither a layman nor a professional could find out, because it only affects the entire duration of the slot
affects or settles.
And who should find that out?
But if you read the articles like this, the Maltese authority does not make it very difficult for you,
to cheat
I am not affected by anything, but I turn on my brain and do not believe everything in this world.
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Nobody needs to ask the question "why". Don't you want to earn more money? Corporations like Nestle are a good example of this.
It is not only clear in advance that the casinos will win in the long run, but it is also clear in the short run.
Or can you prove me wrong?
Why doesn't someone spill the beans? Has anyone come clean about VW, Monsanto, etc.?
Something like this is anchored in contracts, I don't think that every simple support employee is involved in everything, the other rather few responsible people are silenced with contracts.
How can you tell that the machines are manipulated?
Switch on your brain and play consciously.
Of course, the machines can also be manipulated, from which you get a win, a common strategy.
I tried to explain it to you, but I can't expect a "madman" to understand it.
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If I claim something, I must also have proof for it. so how do I notice that a slot is manipulated. sure it can be, there are enough reports about it. but do I now put all machines under general suspicion of being manipulated?
how am i supposed to prove that something isn't rigged? isn't it normal to be innocent until you have real evidence against someone? i mean, there's a lot of emotion involved in gambling, but in the end you lose and you win again - it's just chance. if you can't handle that, maybe you should just stop gambling - if you can and want to
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It always came out by absolute coincidence. But has held for years, and
some will hold until today. For this I do not need evidence, that tells one the
common sense I find.
Also with VW it came out by an absolute coincidence!
Did VW with its billions have that necessary? No.
But the greed is just immeasurable!
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Fake slots can be recognized by opening the page script. Who wants to know it exactly writes me ne message because I may not post the link to the description for the detection (other forum)
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Sry... I assumed that you have deliberately chosen your profile name.
So... you are not insane or crazy, because I personally have the appearance to it, but you yourself want to be called so.
Ok... so it sounds cooler we stay with the English.
You are so maniac
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@stkrie all well and good, but I see no evidence of manipulated slots. It's all conjecture to me at this point. Where is the proof that 32Red (or any of the other casinos mentioned) has rigged slots?
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will know the same thing. You can go on gambling for all I care. House and yard.
You can also hit the million dollar Jackpot because of me, I don't care.
If you believe that everything is done by fair means, I would keep on gambling!
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