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Online Casinos in general: 31bet is the BEST casino on the market. Never won so much. But has one negative drawback. Who knows an alternative?

Topic created on 01st Nov. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 19 | Views: 1,701
threeeyedcraven
Visitor
So let me briefly list the advantages:

-Day 1 I won 4300 on isoftbet games (especially aztec megaways, mammoth megawaysetc) with 1 - 3 €. Das is bei neuen Casios (und neuen Pragamtic Slots vor allem) zwar seh oft so, aber nachdem ich etwa bei wildies von Pragmatic mit 50c 700 euro gewonnen habe, scarab queen 500, rhino (nicht das megaways) 4 Reihen rhinos = 2ter Jackpot (500 mit einem Euro o.dribble & Score 800 euro first session, Evolution Black Rose 450 with 10x 70c, Relax all Tumble games, Templar Tumble 3x free spins, each time over 400 euro, Madame Destiny 1000 euro, Relax other Tumbles 300 - 500 euro with 2-4 euro bet for the first three spins. Snakes and Ladders both with two Scatters at the beginning, 800 euros, Congo Express 700 euros with 80c, diamond booster 600 euros with EUR 1.40, Book of Undead (or whatever it's called) 5 Johns = 2000 euros, also won at bwin and at a scam caracua site (quickwin.com)

And the list could go on forever! To be honest, I don't win anything noteworthy at any of the games mentioned, which is why I'm starting to doubt RNG (same with other casinos, cashzhuma at pokerstars (although I only play there very little because the RTPS couldn't be more ridiculous. You can only play providers that only allow a (high) RTP, Thunderkick or many newer playtech games for example, or core games where I play at cashzuma (RTP 95.71% eigtl too low, 96% absolute minimum norm, but was first game) bonus up to 200x Multiplier, 1.20 euro 850 euro, Viking Hoard (96.7% RTP) 150x multiplier 925 euro etcusw.). And that is SERIOUSLY ONLY a small selection that I can think of now, I could fill pages. Rainbow Lobster on BWIN Grand Jackpot caught in the Scatter = 1760 Euro etc etc ... Anyway, I think the point came across, but NOTHING is comparable to bet31.com, bwin is number 2 (eigtl win2day, the only one where bloodsuckers has 97.99% RTP, but unfortunately it's only for Austrians).

The big casinos (Betano, Unibet, Mr Green, Tipico etcetcetcetc), which could actually be generous, are unfortunately the biggest greed aces - apart from bwin, I haven't yet discovered a major casino that hasn't asked the Provider to turn the RTP down as far as possible for EVERY slot that works. And that's how you get 92% RTP at interwetten with kambala games, for example, while 31bet has 97-98% RTP with this provider across the board . Incidentally, both have a Malta license and Interwetten makes a lot more turnover with a VERY high probability.corporate greed is just something nice and every bureaucracy, every new tax, or costs for Player protection .... 90% of casinos naturally pass this on to the players, especially those who need it the least.

Ok, sorry for my speech, here is the 31bet hit parade:
1. 31bet has MGA license (which is essential for me, Malta, EU, player protection, possibility to ask for help. On the other side is Curacao where there is zero player protection and only profit with sold licenses counts. Even criminals like scammers can buy licenses for EUR 5.000+. And even honest Curacao casinos can quickly become a big rip-off if you change providers, I discovered a "TEST WINNER casino" on many review sites at the beginning of my gambling career. Just raving (in retrospect of course wsl pure advertising and Affiliate sites). won 7000 euros (contrary to the information on the review sites, they were only allowed to pay out 500 per week). chat was never available, there were no answers by email and my repeated offers that I WANTED TO BE VERIFIED were simply ignored - according to Settingd, Verification would not be necessary - with a win of 7000 euros??? Of course ...
2. 31bet is a voluntary member of eCobra, an even stricter organization that is on the side of the players and checks everything from RTP to payout rates for accuracy during surprise visits. bwin is also a member of both.
3. BUT: In contrast to bwin, bet31 is the first MGA casino to offer the highest RTP for all Pragmatic Games. i searched in vain for 2 years for one and then 31 bet pops up. Madame Destiny MW over 97%, all other Pragmatic Games almost NEVER UNDER 96.5%!!!!! Relax Gaming always above 96, Evoplay always minimum 96, Quickspin the same, ALL providers have (except for very few slots, Blood suckers has "only" the second highest RTP of 96.21%, but that is an absolute exception).

bwin is in the middle with pragmatic 2.bester (with win2day) and offers 95 - 96 with sugar rush or blood bonanza, bet31 of course 96 - 97. (bwin unfortunately only has 94.5 instead of 2% more with quickspin, relax also only 94-94.5 instead of 2% more with 31bet, netent mostly ridiculous 92-93%, the same with Red Tiger, where other providers have 96%.

4. A quick word about the UI, never seen such a clear page. On bwin you won't find anything if you don't know the name, 31bet has the games perfectly organized by provider. This is also the clearest system to date.

5. But now I unfortunately come to the negative aspect which, despite the many wins, has led to the fact that I have not gambled more at any casino and am more in the red.

6. 31bet is very slow in paying out.bwin does SEPA instant, even on the WE, 31bet takes a WE break, so if you pay out on Thurs. it can easily be that you don't get your money until Wednesdays and the payout slot is locked within a very short time (the time fluctuates, sometimes after only 5 minutes) and you can no longer change the payout. And in the truest sense of the word, you only have one. If you opt for bank payout, all other options such as cc, Skrill, PayPal etc payout are blocked until the bank has been transferred at a snail's pace,

That's why I love win2day, bwin or even lottoland (in this aspect, lottoland RTPs are a cheek by the bank since the new German law) With win2day and lottoland the payout is immediately on the way to the account and cannot be revoked, bwin usually takes 2, 3 hours. I also don't use money once it has been paid out (withdrawal)

It's really no wonder that 31bet keeps paying out such big wins with these odds, but for a player like me, with little self-control, their approach to withdrawals is a disaster.

I can no longer count how many times I have won around 300 - 600 euros, had 80% paid out and 20 minutes later I suddenly win a much higher amount of e.g. 2000 with the remaining 20%. I can't even count how often similar things have happened with larger and smaller amounts.

And the BIGGEST ERROR/ADVERSITY on the part of 31bet: The first 1 or 2 weeks you had hours to withdraw the payout and add the new wins.

Now this withdrawal button not only often disappears after 5 minutes, but what makes no sense to me at all: The status of the withdrawal does not change. Both when you could still withdraw briefly at the beginning and later, when this is no longer possible, the status remains on "processing" until after 5 to 6 days the successful amount is finally transferred to the bank.

Unfortunately, my problem is that if I can't withdraw 4-digit sums because 200 euros for 7 days clog up everything, I will log in again and again and of course hope to make a fat scatter or 5-digit win with larger bets. Unfortunately, this too often leads to the fact that at the end of the 7 days, when the slot is finally free again, there may still be 200 euros left.

I asked 31bet why they don't open more slots or at least allow more methods at the same time. Wouldn't be possible. It's a lie of course - we know from countless other casinos that this is possible without any problems - but I'm guessing that they get a lot of money back from their high RTP payouts with this sneaky tactic.

So, after my second novel chapter (sorry, I know I have a tldr problem, always want to explain everything as accurately as possible^^) now to the question of all questions. And IF ANYONE CAN ACTUALLY HELP ME AND RECOMMEND ME AN ONLINE CASINO WITH MY REQUIREMENTS, I will come up with some kind of thanks, maybe a 5 euro voucher or similar if possible.

So to summarize once again:
- Casino must be from Malta with MGA license
--- MGA casinos that fail because of the lowest RTPs across the board: All the big ones, Unibet, Betano, Mr Green, Pkerstarts, Tipico, Interwetten, lottoland, bwin and win2day are mid-high but I already know them. And then the worst MGA group with lame RTPS and perceived weak payouts = including all casinos whose owner is N1 (MGA license, but I have never lost as much as in N1 Casinos - of course they are not eCobra. And their further cheek: All of YOUR OWN MONEY that you Deposit has to be wagered 3x (!!!) before you can cash it out. Unfortunately, they have many pages: Here is the list


- Of course the highest Pragmatic RTPs of 96,5%+, same with Relax, Quickspin, Kambala, with every provider basically
- Would of course be great if the site was as clear as this
- Play'n'Go slots were unfortunately missing at 31bet - must of course also have the highest RTP of at least 96.5%, not the slimmed-down 94s
- As many withdrawal slots as you want and no matter if skrill paysafe and bank at the same time. It's a joke to claim that this is not possible, they know exactly that players run the Risk of gambling if they block the withdrawal slot

I got myself banned for life at 31bet. Unfortunately, they didn't want to make any concessions to me. So if one of you knows a good Tip that meets my expectations, I will definitely return the favor with a small gift

Edit by Julian: The links to all the casinos had to be removed for security reasons

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor
Donnie wrote on 01.11.2024 at 11:37 am: When I open the page, I constantly get error messages, and if you find a page via another browser, it is displayed extremely poorly. I certainly haven't read through the whole text now

I have no idea what you are talking about, the site works perfectly on both Firefox and Chrome. I've never had any problems with it.

Inserting pictures via Pic Upload Site Links unfortunately didn't work, I have to do it this way


https://ibb.co/g9HyVpW

https://31bet.com

https://31bet.com/at/casino/casino


Too bad about the reading, wanted to explain as accurately as possible how much potential the site has, but due to the one shortcoming nevertheless minimizes the Risen profits again, especially with player types like me. Since you obviously don't have any tips anyway and just wanted to check out the casino, I hope it works now. My guess is that you made a mistake with the URL or something similar. LG



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Markalc
Amateur
Can't open the page either

Sorry, you have been blocked
You are unable to access 31bet.com

Definitely not from my side

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Donnie
Elite
Markalc wrote on 01.11.2024 at 11:54: Can't open the page either

Sorry, you have been blocked
You are unable to access 31bet.com

Definitely not from my side

I got the site open when I went to Guru with VPN, going to the casino from there works, but I would still stay away from it

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor

Markalc wrote on 01.11.2024 at 11:54: Can't open the page either

Sorry, you have been blocked
You are unable to access 31bet.com

Definitely not from my side

Ok, all right - you are probably all from Germany, here is the list of countries that are not allowed to play:


Afghanistan, Albania, Afghanistan, Albania, Barbados, Belarus, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cayman Islands, Central African Republic, China, Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK - North Korea), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Germany , Gibraltar, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Moldova, Mozambique, Myanmar (Burma), Netherlands, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Oman, Panama, Philippines, Russia, Senegal, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sudan, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Vietnam, West Sahara, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor
I'll do another tldr of my OP above here:
- Pragatic, Relax, Quickspin all highest possible RTPs above 96.5%
- The only Provider that comes off would be Play'n'go, as on bwin but also only the highest 96%+ RTP acceptable
- Malta EU Casino with MGA license and free member of Player protection and casino watchdog eCobra
- Multiple or endless withdrawal slots, whether Skrill, bank, paysafe, cc etc.

Must work for Ö (wunderino etc I have about the same problem that you have with 31bet)

31bet would be so perfect if withdrwal didn't take so long and you never know, if you withdraw 200 now and suddenly win 2000, leave it in your account for 5, 6 days without ever being tempted to go for a higher win with about 4, 5 euro spins and when withdrawal is free again you only have a few hunnis left.

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor
Donnie wrote on 01.11.2024 at 11:57 am:
I got the site open when I went to Guru with VPN, going to the casino from there works, but I would still stay away from it

The casino is super reputable and the most generous I've been able to play so far. MGA and especially eCobra provide a relaxed, honest gaming experience without any worries. Especially eCobra is a super strict organization on the part of the players, which regularly and unannounced puts casinos through their paces to check their information.


However, if you come from one of these countries, you cannot play at 31bet and Germany is unfortunately included (I didn't know this until today):

Afghanistan, Albania, Afghanistan, Albania, Barbados, Belarus, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cayman Islands, Central African Republic, China, Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK - North Korea), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Germany , Gibraltar, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Moldova, Mozambique, Myanmar (Burma), Netherlands, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Oman, Panama, Philippines, Russia, Senegal, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sudan, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Vietnam, West Sahara, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

Of course, you should keep your hands off them, because even the best VPN is useless as soon as you start the Verification process.

P.S.: Unfortunately, the discussion is only about the site. Does no one know of an EU casino (MGA not mandatory, eCobra is) that would fulfill the requirements from my post above this one?

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Max_Bet
Expert
So much euphoria hmm 🤔

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor
I hope someone is still reading this, very few people are still scrolling this far down, unfortunately I wasn't allowed to create a new tldr thread on the same topic. But I already have the feeling that I'll have to do a lot of research myself and hope to find something suitable.

But anyway, it's still worth a try:

First of all: Germans and Swiss can use Ö VPN to look through the site or the slot info files at least once to see that I'm not exaggerating a bit regarding RTPs, fairness, payouts, frequent wins etc.. Unfortunately, Germans and Swiss are not allowed on the site. A registration would therefore be of little use, VPN or not

I'll do another tldr of my OP above here:
- Pragmatic, Relax, Quickspin all highest possible RTPs over 96.5% (as on 31bet)
- The only Provider that comes off is Play'n'go, as on bwin but also only the highest 96%+ RTP acceptable
- Malta EU Casino with MGA license and free member of Player protection and casino watchdog eCobra (as on 31bet, but an alternative EU license would also be acceptable in an emergency)
- Several or endless withdrawal slots, whether Skrill, bank, paysafe, cc etc.
- Very clear site, organized by provider. It's so easy to see what's available, how much there is and where - in contrast to the massive confusion on pokerstars or bwin.

Must work for Ö (wunderino etc I have about the same problem that you have with 31bet)

31bet would be so perfect if it didn't just have this one single withdrawal slot and the payout including WE can often take 5, 6 days. It has often been a problem that I withdraw about 200 wins and 20 minutes later I win another 2000. By then, the option to withdraw the payout is often gone and the €2000 remains in the gaming account for almost a week until the payout slot is free again. In such a long time, it's especially difficult for a player like me not to be tempted at least once or twice to go for a higher win with about 4, 5 euros spins, which of course usually goes down the drain and in the end you're only left with a few bucks when withdrawals go out again.

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threeeyedcraven
Visitor
Max_Bet wrote on 01.11.2024 at 13:18: So much euphoria hmm 🤔

euphoria? Yes no casino has better rtps, but I said extra that because of the one payout slot (and my impatience) I haven't won that much anywhere, but even worse I haven't lost that much anywhere either.

I know it's all a conspiracy today, but I think I've explained more than plausibly why 31bet would be almost perfect. HAVEN'T OTHERWISE - and have been looking for a year - NEVER discovered a CASINO with a reputable license that has the super-high RTPs at Pragmatic. And also the very highest at every other Provider (Kambal 97-98%, pokerstars or interwetten have the same games at 92%)

And yes of course, I am a secret advertiser for 31bet on a German site, although Germans are not allowed to play there. Also congratulations to your upvoter.

I'm looking for an alternative to 31bet, I've been banned for life for the above reason, but I've also listed the extremely positive aspects, and no one helped me anyway, apparently everyone just wanted to try out the casino straight away. The second or third thread in which I have asked for help, so far I have received maybe 1 halfway thoughtful answer in the previous one.

Sorry, but I find the response really insulting, especially as it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense given my description and approach.

"Uhhh he thinks a casino is great that emphasizes Player protection, has the highest possible payout ratios and a secure EU license" ... Can only be a shill" Well, hopefully my co-conspirators will prepare me better next time and name a German euphoria casino for a German forum, not just one that is just a shill. Forum, not just one that only works in Austria.

Oh well last but not least, many thanks for the most helpful post of the day ...

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Max_Bet
Expert
threeeyedcraven wrote on 01.11.2024 at 14:33:euphoria?

Yeah. I'll put it to you straight. You're in a gambling forum here. Everyone here knows the euphoria of a win in a casino. You want to tell the whole world about it because you think you've found the ultimate way to play & win. But any gambler who sits down for a moment and thinks about it knows that this is not the reality. What strikes me about you is that you write long reports here that no one is likely to read all the way through, a hymn of praise for a casino where you have now won. Don't take offense, I think it's a bit exaggerated. I've perhaps been around too long to know that this winning streak won't last long and so your whole appearance here seems a bit strange to me. It stinks of advertising yes it stinks of advertising and it has nothing to do with conspiracy theory as you claim. Nobody cares where you won money, you've already made it more than clear that you've had enough of advertising at some point, haven't you? I'm surprised that no one here contradicts you anyway. But as I said, probably nobody reads...

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Falke
Expert



I can no longer count how often I have won around 300 - 600 euros, had 80% paid out and 20 minutes later I suddenly win a much higher amount of e.g. 2000 with the remaining 20%. I can't even count how often similar things have happened with larger and smaller amounts.

So are you writing to us from your domicile in Hawaii and your Ferrari is already parked? Anyway, I'm going to sign up to 32764636Bet immediately after reading your post, because it sounds so serious and I want to win as much as you do. Thank you for your contribution. I've been waiting so long to finally get the insider Tip on the internet to get rich. Finally the time has come.

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WithoutWings
Expert
Boa what texts 🤣 But no thanks

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zocker0815
Top Member

WithoutWings wrote on 01.11.2024 at 18:33: Boa what texts 🤣 But no thanks

yes i thought so too, i would be interested but as i saw the text... ne

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Theodor
Rookie

WithoutWings wrote on 01.11.2024 at 18:33: Boa what texts 🤣 But no thanks

Please write to me privately WithoutWings, unfortunately I can't write to you because I'm still new to the forum.

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