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Online Casinos in general: 20000 euro real money balance simply gone (delorocasino) (Page 4)

Topic created on 17th Jul. 2024 | Page: 4 of 4 | Answers: 55 | Views: 4,495
gamble1
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Frankey wrote on 21.07.2024 at 02:15:


The hackers usually have no target at all. They have little nasty tracker bots and such that are sent out to find vulnerabilities that can give access to a computer or network, a network scanner that checks in passing whether all networks in the vicinity have a password. These are then immediately flagged. Then the spy bots come and simply observe. Because if you don't secure your WLAN access, you're bound to do other stupid things. For example, not logging out of the casino properly. The bots report this to the hacker. They take a look and take action. Hacker communities are a strange bunch, smart but also megalomaniacal, sick sense of humor. For example, hacking into a casino account to lose the money. Not because he likes to troll but to say this is what happens when you don't log in hahaha. Doesn't sound very likely either, but a hacker might need a few hours to do something like that. So yes, it's realistic for a hacker to take over an account on the side.

But not at a 0815 backyard casino that nobody knows !!!!!!!!

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taylor3733
Rookie

upola wrote on 20.07.2024 at 06:52:

Does this really happen often?

I've never heard or read anything about it before.

I also wonder what would have happened if the unknown player had won?

The bets were obviously high.
Would there now be 100000 euros in the casino account instead of 20000 euros?
I don't want to insinuate anything:
But the story makes little sense to me....

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gamble1
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taylor3733 wrote on 23.07.2024 06:11:

I also wonder what would have happened if the unknown player had won?

The bets were obviously high.
Would there now be 100000 euros in the casino account instead of 20000 euros before?
I don't want to insinuate anything:
But the story makes little sense to me....

If that was the case, the gambling would simply have continued or the account would have been blocked - you always manage to gamble away sooner or later if you really want to

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Falke
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Yet another case where I think the TE has gambled the money away himself. With such a large sum, he would write something here much more often.

There are always some crazy people who seriously believe that if they write something like that in a forum, that for some magical reason the money will suddenly come back.

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frapi07
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Falke wrote on 09.08.2024 at 13:59: Another case where I rather believe that the TE gambled away the money himself. With such a large sum, he would write something here much more often.

There are always some crazy people who seriously believe that if they write something like that in a forum, that for some magical reason the money will suddenly come back.

They are just desperate, you can understand that. There's a lot of money at stake and I would use all the options available to me. GJ wasn't the only point of contact, but also Guru, Ask and who knows where else he described his case.

It doesn't really matter whether the story is a lie or true. The aim is to generate attention in order to put pressure on the casino. It also doesn't matter for the decision, because there is only one way in which the player would have seen his money here: OC was hacked or there was a data leak. I can't think of any other scenario where the outcome would have been positive for the player.

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hasan9393
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In my opinion, I have received many similar complaints in the past. Usually licensed casinos in Cyprus or Russia commit fraud like this, for example, you played, won 10,000 and went to bed, you woke up in the morning and your account is empty is at 0, the casino says you played your money in x game.The game was played with high bets and the money was completely lost within a very short time.The only person who can do this is the casino itself,No hacker can get into your casino account and lose your money.This has happened to me in the past, luckily it was a small amount of money, then I researched on this topic and in every complaint the same casino blames you.They say you should lose your money in x amount of games, this is not true, as I said if there is a thief it is the landlord, that is the casino itself.And so far I have not seen anyone who can get their money back.I hope you will be the first one

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gamble1
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hasan9393 wrote on 09/08/2024 17:30: In my opinion, I have received many similar complaints in the past. Usually licensed casinos in Cyprus or Russia commit fraud like this, for example, you played, won 10,000 and went to bed, you woke up in the morning and your account is empty is at 0, the casino says you played your money in x game.The game was played with high bets and the money was completely lost within a very short time.The only person who can do this is the casino itself,No hacker can get into your casino account and lose your money.This has happened to me in the past, luckily it was a small amount of money, then I researched on this topic and in every complaint the same casino blames you.They say you should lose your money in x games, this is not true, as I said if there is a thief it is the landlord, that is the casino itself.And so far I have not seen anyone who can get their money back.I hope you will be the first one

Why shouldn't a hacker be able to access the account? His job is to hack the account, so to say that this is not possible is also wrong in my opinion

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hasan9393
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gamble1 wrote on 09.08.2024 at 17:51:

Why shouldn't a hacker be able to get into the account? His job is to hack the account, so to say something like that is not possible is also wrong in my opinion

Of course a hacker can do that, but he can't hack a casino account, play and lose all the money to zero.and hackers don't care about such small things because a hacker won't win anything by doing so.as I said, the head of the snake is the casino itself.the casinos that commit this kind of fraud have been committing it for a long time, which is why some websites still do it.

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Blubbo33
Elite
I don't think it's absurd for casinos to do this!

There is no possibility of control and no possibility of punishment, so so what ?

You can see from the various harassments what a casino is capable of?

I have always written, don't be happy until the money is under your pillow!

An acquaintance of mine tried to get a complete history of his losses from tipico on request, his account was immediately blocked and information refused, on the grounds that it could incriminate tipico!

So much for clean German providers!

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frapi07
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Blubbo33 wrote on 09.08.2024 at 23:32: I don't find it absurd that casinos do something like this!

There is no possibility of control and no possibility of punishment, so so what ?

You can see from the various harassments what a casino is capable of?

I've always written, don't be happy until the money is under your pillow!

An acquaintance of mine tried to get a complete history of his losses from tipico on request, his account was immediately blocked and information refused, on the grounds that it could incriminate tipico!

So much for clean German providers!

Yes, if an OC does something like that, then they will act accordingly and also falsify evidence or (if they are smarter) make it look like a hacker. But ask yourself what is more likely: player gambles away his win and makes up a story or OC pays out 25% of the balance, logs into the account and gambles away the rest of the money. For me, it's clear that the first scenario is much more likely.

It is reasonable to assume that the player paid out 5k (more was not possible as it was the limit) and continued to gamble with the 15k in the hope of making further wins. With higher bets, a few thousand are quickly gone, as you know yourself, and then you can get stupid thoughts because you mourn the gambled away win.

Of course Tipico can't refuse, they are obliged to hand them over, I'm sure I'm not telling you anything new. I've already read a few cases here where OCs deliberately took their time and/or then sent too much data just to make things more difficult. I have no idea what data was sent, but I can imagine that they then send the entire gambling history just to make the lawyers' work more difficult. But it wasn't a legal casino, I remember that. But your example shows me that betting providers are just as unscrupulous as casinos, it's the same industry.

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Blubbo33
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frapi07 wrote on 09.08.2024 at 23:51:

Yes, if an OC does something like that, they will act accordingly and also falsify evidence or (if they are smarter) make it look like a hacker. But ask yourself what is more likely: player gambles away his win and makes up a story or OC pays out 25% of the balance, logs into the account and gambles away the rest of the money. For me, it's clear that the first scenario is much more likely.

It is reasonable to assume that the player paid out 5k (more was not possible as it was the limit) and continued to gamble with the 15k in the hope of making further wins. With higher bets, a few thousand is quickly gone, as you know yourself, and then you can get stupid thoughts because you mourn the gambled away win.

Of course Tipico can't refuse, they are obliged to hand them over, I'm sure I'm not telling you anything new. I've already read a few cases here where OCs deliberately took their time and/or then sent too much data just to make things more difficult. I have no idea what data was sent, but I can imagine that they then send the entire gambling history just to make the lawyers' work more difficult. But it wasn't a legal casino, I remember that. But your example shows me that betting providers are just as unscrupulous as casinos, it's the same industry.

Of course there is also the possibility that the player has gambled it away!


That's why I gave the example of tipico, yes, they have to hand it over, but they don't!

It's as simple as that!

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