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Online Casinos in general: 15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me... (Page 2)

Topic created on 16th Dec. 2018 | Page: 2 of 4 | Answers: 32 | Views: 6,450
Zwischenmeister
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15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

16th Dec. 2018, at 09:44 am CET#11
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Royal777 wrote on 12/16/2018 at 09:34: It's gambling.No bonus in 50-80 spins on Legacy is normal after all
I would only get upset after several hundred spins why I play the slot so long. And that has happened more than once, unfortunately.

With Bonanza it is even more awesome, there it goes deep into the thousands of spins

Sorry, just to be sure that you have not misunderstood me: I was not complaining about the fact that I know how long no 3! Pyramids come, I know best that this can take. I don't want to know how many hours I've spent in that slot. The 3 pyramids came and also decent amounts of freespins. But in the freespins I had not even the two pyramids that are necessary. Sure, I also had 15 or 20 freespins before in which nothing worked. But just not yet six times in a row a total of 80 freespins without further pyramids...

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Zwischenmeister
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15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

16th Dec. 2018, at 09:53 am CET#12
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I think you really misunderstand me in part. I don't get upset when there is no bonus for one, two or three hundred spins! I'm used to that, just like you, for years.

We are talking about mouse-dead bonus rounds, so often in a row that I really don't think it is normal anymore. And like I said, this is my favorite slot, I've been playing it up and down for months and really thought I'd seen it all, from multiple 1000x wins to just 0x. But last night really took the faith out of me...

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Anonym

15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

16th Dec. 2018, at 10:03 am CET#13
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 16.12.2018 at 09:53: I think you really misunderstand me in part. I'm not upset about it when times one, two or three hundred spins long no bonus comes! I'm used to that, just like you, for years.

We are talking about mouse-dead bonus rounds, so often in a row that I really don't think it is normal anymore. And like I said, this is my favorite slot, I've been playing it up and down for months and really thought I'd seen it all, from multiple 1000x wins to just 0x. But last night really took my faith away...

Yes I had you apparently misunderstood, sorry!

But I also know such bonuses. In many slots I got in the last 12 years the free spins on massive bets with enormous potential (( extension, high Multiplier, good setup etc). Unfortunately, the fact is that even these free spins do not give a guaranteed win. I myself have already called it a scam and can therefore understand you well.

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15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

16th Dec. 2018, at 11:21 am CET#14
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Have played yesterday the game Millionaires.On 1 euro I have had very good wins.Very often 3 symbols always went up something.Was at 400 euros went to 2 euros per game and it came "nothing" more.That has nothing to do with chance.3 times ladder had so 3 Scatter wanted to go high and went immediately to 0.I would not call that fraud.But strange I find it already.

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Anonym

15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

16th Dec. 2018, at 01:21 pm CET#15
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Royal777 wrote on 12/16/2018 at 10:03 am
Yes I had misunderstood you apparently, sorry!

But I know such Bonuses as well. On many slots I got the free spins on massive bets with huge potential (( extension, high Multiplier, good setup etc) in the last 12 years. Unfortunately, the fact is that even these free spins do not give a guaranteed win. I myself have already called it a scam and can therefore understand you well.

The win is already predetermined as soon as you have the free spins.

I know this from Extra Chilli as an example

I get extension and all 4 spins run into the void. Then I think to myself why he extended at all.
Of course, I am also happy about extensions because then the probability is higher that the predetermined win is higher and he needs more spins, but generally it does not matter.

Whether now with Bod you get the x200 win in 10 free spins or in 30 is completely irrelevant.
As soon as the free spins come in it becomes a x200 win. How that is displayed at the end, so in how many spins or which images, the win remains the same.

I find it but also pretty badly done when the slot for a small win then extended umpteen times.

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RiverSong
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15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

16th Dec. 2018, at 01:35 pm CET#16
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 16/12/2018 at 05:24: I can't say that at all. I've been able to win so much there. I have to upload two more videos there. But yesterday it was as if the slot wanted to tell me: that's enough!

Played on 3 euros, 3 pyramids, 15 spins, no extension.

The next normal spin again 3 pyramids, again turned to 15 spins, again no single time two pyramids

The second normal spin after that 3 pyramids, spun on 6 spins, no two pyramids

Then it took again 10-15 spins, zack again 3 pyramids, again got 6 spins, no two pyramids

Then again just under 15 spins estimated, 3 pyramids, got 6 spins, no extension as before also

The next time it was even 20 spins, then I had once at 5x two pyramids, gave 8 spins where nix came out and the rest of the 20 again nix

I've never experienced anything like that, it's so unrealistic. And that's really putting it mildly.

there are always things that you have not experienced even after years of playing, comes at least some variety pure

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Yaspo
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15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

17th Dec. 2018, at 06:34 pm CET#17
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Wat??? Coincidence????? As often as lures etc. To the standard belong with Videoslots I think there for a long time no longer rudimentary to coincidence. The things run according to a kind of game plan, believe the one Provider changes between open and too daily the other hourly and then again others monthly....with coincidence has little to do. Each image is pre-programmed, there is anyway as good as no calculation on the computer for a coincidence. Aka has the time in his blogs and instructions very nicely explained everything and he has probably Mal slots programmed......

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TonioKroeger
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15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

17th Dec. 2018, at 10:03 pm CET#18
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Random wrote on 16/12/2018 at 13:21
The win is already predetermined as soon as you have the free spins.

Is there actually a reliable, perhaps even scientifically proven source for the statement that the win is already predetermined when the FS is triggered? It is quite possible and I believe it, but where does it say that or who said it? Questions come to my mind about long, interrupted FS series with double-digit extensions, which you might then interrupt for a few more days.


As far as the initial question is concerned, I have often experienced, especially with "Legacy", that on a certain, rather low tray is given and as soon as one hopefully raises, nothing but also nothing goes, so here, for example, the pyramids do not come. Many wins are gambled away in this way and in the end the OC has won. The "coincidence" releases the first good FS, the system gave something, afterwards it runs again worse (or evenly normally in the sense that one always loses over a longer period, the OC wins). This principle affects all games. It only runs differently when the system opens up and you have a "winning streak", meaning you can win in other games and raises pay off.

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Emx81
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15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

17th Dec. 2018, at 10:12 pm CET#19
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Oh dear that is bitter.
Play less play n go lately, should rather be called "play for fun"
Try Montezuma, find him gamz good.
Greetings

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Anonym

15.12.2018 - or the day when faith in chance left me...

17th Dec. 2018, at 10:32 pm CET#20
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TonioKroeger wrote on 12/17/2018 at 10:03 PM

Is there actually a reliable, maybe even scientifically proven source for the statement that the win is already predetermined when the FS is triggered? It is quite possible, and I believe it, but where does it say that, or who said it? Questions come to my mind about long, interrupted FS series with double-digit extensions, which you might then interrupt for a few more days.


As far as the initial question is concerned, I have often experienced, especially with "Legacy", that on a certain, rather low tray is given and as soon as one hopefully raises, nothing but also nothing goes, so here e.g. the pyramids do not come. Many wins are gambled away in this way and in the end the OC has won. The "coincidence" releases the first good FS, the system gave something, afterwards it runs again worse (or evenly normally in the sense that one always loses over a longer period, the OC wins). This principle affects all games. It only runs differently when the system opens up and you have a "winning streak", meaning you can win in other games and raises pay off.


A scientific source? How is that supposed to work? I hardly believe that studies have ever been done.

I believe it has. It's also the only thing that makes sense in case the system has a bug.

What I think is an absolute contradiction is to think that the system is manipulated, but the free spins would then be based on chance.
Also, it is not at all necessary to manipulate the free spins, so according to the motto the free spins have crashed and now they pay nothing more.
If manipulated then the system just always pays out small free spins wins.
Would be much easier.

I don't want to say that there is no Manipulation or that there is manipulation.
I just think that it is completely irrelevant whether the free spins win is already fixed before or not.
If manipulated then rather in the sense that the system makes so to speak a lock, so an amount beyond which you can not win or the like. Would be much easier to manage.
Whether the free play win is already fixed does not matter.

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