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Online Casinos in general: 15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over? (Page 94)

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u****n

15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

6th Nov. 2020, at 07:16 pm CET#956
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Tanja1987 wrote on 06.11.2020 at 19:02: Good evening everyone, I have a question maybe you can tell me more about this. Is it true that you can only play with a maximum bet of 1€ from November 15? Have now already asked in several casinos but unfortunately no concrete answer to get.

Probably only from 15.12

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Falko
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15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

6th Nov. 2020, at 07:21 pm CET#957
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If that comes in such a way, then not only starting from July next year,if as planned then the gambling contract enters into force ?

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Tanja1987
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15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

6th Nov. 2020, at 07:23 pm CET#958
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Ok thanks for the reply. So if that is introduced in any case, that you may play at most only with 1 €, I will definitely unsubscribe from all casinos. I have usually only played higher, everything under 1 € makes but no fun more how to get any higher wins?

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u****n

15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

6th Nov. 2020, at 07:44 pm CET#959
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Falko wrote on 06.11.2020 at 19:21: If that comes so, then not only from July next year,if as planned then the gambling contract comes into force ?

That will run from the 15.12 again so that some casinos go along, because they promise themselves a license in the summer of next year, and again others probably first hold the ball flat and change nothing, as long as no binding law has been passed.

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Bonusfan
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15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

8th Nov. 2020, at 04:25 pm CET#960
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unicorn wrote on 06.11.2020 at 19:44
This will run from 15.12 again so that some casinos go along because they promise themselves a license in the summer of next year, and again others probably hold the ball flat for now and change nothing at all, as long as no binding law has been passed.

Whereby "some casinos" is a bit of an understatement. Among the casinos known in Germany (I'm not talking about providers that only we know), I do not know of any that do not comply with the new regulations.

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15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

11th Nov. 2020, at 06:42 am CET#961
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Does anyone know where to file complaints to this coming law change?

As a small gambler I don't really mind the new rules. Apart from the fact that you can only play one slot at a time. What doesn't work at all is that there are no more autospins.
Firstly, it's no fun to press the button all the time and secondly, I have no overview of how many spins I have already pumped into the slot. Even with a premature lucky strike before you are in the Bonus money, it is too time-consuming for me every time the chat (if the casino has one) to ask wv I still have to wager, so that the payout goes through. And then to count the spins in advance.

These autoclicker I also do not feel as a good solution, because you already have to know exactly in how many seconds a game round is over.

All the fun of the game is lost and you no longer have an overview - all to protect the players.

In addition, some casinos suddenly require proof of income. First pictures with ID card in hand and now that too. You become more and more naked.

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Mysticdragon
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15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

11th Nov. 2020, at 07:16 am CET#962
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Frankiboy0815 wrote on 25.09.2020 at 13:54: from 16.10 gehts los, then enters the new gambling contract

Gauselmann/ Merkur is already from the date at the start....
so nix 1 July 2021

The new gambling contract goes only in mid 2021 at the start, which is now only the transition phase to ensure the casinos a better chance for a license in Germany but Mandatory is not!

In addition, this has not yet been ratified, because only the standstill period must expire.
The article from the lawyer is indeed 3 months old
But there is also nothing new.



Here is an excerpt from the article
"The premature acquiescence through the circular resolution is problematic

The early acquiescence by the circulation decision of the federal states Bavaria, Hamburg, North Rhine-Westphalia and Berlin mentioned at the beginning is supposed to bring about a state of affairs that is contrary to European law or anti-competitive. It just seems as if the German politicians do not want to wait for the standstill period in the EU Commission notification procedure and also want to put the GlüStV, which is contrary to European law, into effect de facto even before ratification by the federal states."


See source:
-> https://www.isa-guide.de/isa-law/articles/209506.html -> Statement from a lawyer

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Mysticdragon
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15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

11th Nov. 2020, at 07:22 am CET#963
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krmuel wrote on 11/11/2020 at 06:42 PM

Also, some casinos are suddenly asking for proof of income. First pictures with ID card in hand and now that too. You get more and more naked.


Then you play in the wrong casinos. With me, no proof of income was ever required and would never get to see.
From such casinos you should stay away.
So far, only identity card, Deposit method Verification and proof of address with phone / electricity bill is enough.

In the casinos Wunderino, SlotsMillion, LVBet and Casumo. Can say through successful payouts that such a thing is not needed.
Even at Boom, LeoVegas, casinos of the Genesis Group no proof of income is required.

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Katharina2
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15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

11th Nov. 2020, at 08:40 am CET#964
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Mysticdragon wrote on 11/11/2020 at 07:16 PM

The new gambling treaty goes only in the middle of 2021 at the start, this is now only the transition phase to the casinos to ensure a better chance for a license in Germany but Mandatory is not!

In addition, this has not yet been ratified, because only the standstill period must expire.
The article from the lawyer is indeed 3 months old
But there is also nothing new.



Here is an excerpt from the article
"The premature acquiescence through the circular resolution is problematic

The early acquiescence by the circulation decision of the federal states Bavaria, Hamburg, North Rhine-Westphalia and Berlin mentioned at the beginning is supposed to bring about a state of affairs that is contrary to European law or anti-competitive. It just seems as if the German politicians do not want to wait for the standstill period in the EU Commission notification procedure and also want to put the GlüStV, which is contrary to European law, into effect de facto even before ratification by the federal states."


See source:
-> https://www.isa-guide.de/isa-law/articles/209506.html -> Statement from a lawyer

I inhaled the ISA-LAW a long time ago. Even more interesting is the
Contribution by Dr. Sarafi, which highlights all the individual points.

And yes, from a German point of view it looks like the casino part: live games and
Table games are banned and only gaming arcades that are allowed to call themselves that
are pushed and promoted. Next year, Roulette is to be revived
be revived, by in each Land 1 OnlineCasino or also none,
come and still better: the player may play also only in its Land
In this area and partly in the gaming arcade area, we can bring the
'European basic idea' to the grave. So far only conjectures, but
everything to research on the Internet

Even now, I have not yet found any clue why casino players are being
such excluded and compared to Slot machine players and all two areas
in turn by the European un ion absolutely, excluded and cut off.

The GlüStV 2021 will certainly in its parts, not come exactly the same, only residual concerns
remain. If it remains so, the black market will boom again, because we have Internet
and you can not keep Germans in this area as (almost) in China.

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Katharina2
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15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?

11th Nov. 2020, at 09:06 am CET#965
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Mysticdragon wrote on 11/11/2020 at 07:22 PM


Then you're playing at the wrong casinos. With me they never asked for proof of income and would never let them see it.
You should stay away from such casinos.
So far, only identity card, Deposit method Verification and proof of address with phone / electricity bill is enough.

In the casinos Wunderino, SlotsMillion, LVBet and Casumo. Can say through successful payouts that such a thing is not needed.
Even at Boom, LeoVegas, Genesis Group casinos no proof of income is required.

The § 32 puts in between an 'or' and so can the conventional method or
'facetoface' or both can be required. There will be, depending on the whim of the
Casinos even with small wins 'identity card in the hand, face, in the other
Hand sheet of paper with date and casino - name, behind it open PC / laptop
demanded. There are no limits to the creativity of the casinos. Nachzulesen here
in a thread
To me this always reminds of representations for a criminal file, only even these
are more humane and are content with a number next to the face.
Something like this would have to be banned, otherwise I would have to verify my purchases soon
verify myself. The casinos laugh themselves nevertheless kaputt, if one because of 20, 50 euro in such a way
is demonstrated.

The search of suitable gaming houses or casinos is not a suitable means,
this undignified treatment to end. Rather here the legislator with
clear rules demanded. This is still to be established. Everything handicraft
done very badly. humanly' goes differently; no basic law, no more
Europe more, count in this division and in Germany.

To escape this thing, I recommend the 'verification before the first game'.
Casinos are legally obliged to do this.

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