Winsane payout of a 5-digit amount - next steps

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Winsane payout of a 5-digit amount - next steps

1st Aug. 2024, at 01:21 pm CEST#16

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okay, I didn't know that was possible. I'm actually used to it not working, but I don't know the OC.

Yes, you can. From there you can sell it and then have it paid out by bank.

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Winsane payout of a 5-digit amount - next steps

1st Aug. 2024, at 03:13 pm CEST#17

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LucasD wrote on 01.08.2024 at 13:19:

I get at the casino payout in Bitcoin , Ethereum , Tether , Ripple , USDCoin, Cardano, Dogecoin , Litecoin , BitcoinCash and DAI are offered - I will only see whether this works without a Deposit when I try to make a withdrawal...

I would then transfer it to an offline wallet and from there to Coinbase. That works, doesn't it?

Correct. Coinbase does not officially allow the service to be used for gambling, which is why I meant the offline wallet.

Hopefully they accept crypto for withdrawal, unfortunately I don't know the store and can't tell you exactly

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Winsane payout of a 5-digit amount - next steps

1st Aug. 2024, at 03:29 pm CEST#18

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frapi07 wrote on 01.08.2024 at 13:12:
You have euros or USD in your casino account, don't you? You have to withdraw that first. That's not possible on Coinbase. You can buy/sell crypto on Coinbase, but you can't receive FIAT currency - at least I haven't seen any option.

The payment method on Coinbase is required to buy crypto. But you want to sell it there, or am I misunderstanding your intention?

@gamble1 can you also receive FIAT on Coinbase? I've been searching for 5 minutes for such a setting, but can't find anything.

Only the USDC normal Euros can only be obtained by selling and buying

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1st Aug. 2024, at 07:35 pm CEST#19

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LucasD wrote on 01.08.2024 08:00:

Thanks for your efforts and info!
Do you have any recommendations for crypto?
I am offered Bitcoin, Ethereum, Tether, Ripple, USDCoin, Cardano, Dogecoin, Litecoin, BitcoinCash and DAI.

What about the payout? It has to stay on there for a year from the time the last cent is on it and only then can I have it paid out tax-free, right? Is there anything else to consider? How do you do it?

You have to register on a portal like coinbase. With ID and everything. There you can change crypto into euros and then into your bank account. Your bank may want to know where the crypto you exchanged came from. Anonymous crypto transfers from a slfhosted wallet, for example, are illegal within and also to and from the EU under the new law. Both sender and recipient are then suspected of money laundering. The EU has effectively taken the crypto out of cryptocurrencies and I would leave the payout on the credit card. If you want to have the amount on your account, you could report yourself to the bank and authorities beforehand and admit that you played in an illegal casino.vilwixht you only have to pay a fine or something.

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1st Aug. 2024, at 08:49 pm CEST#20

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Frankey wrote on 01.08.2024 at 19:35:
You have to register on a portal like coinbase. With ID and everything. There you can change crypto into euros and then into your bank account. Your bank may want to know where the crypto you exchanged came from. Anonymous crypto transfers from a slfhosted wallet, for example, are illegal within and also to and from the EU under the new law. Both sender and recipient are then suspected of money laundering. The EU has effectively taken the crypto out of cryptocurrencies and I would leave the payout on the credit card. If you want to have the amount on your account, you could report yourself to the bank and authorities beforehand and admit that you played in an illegal casino.vilwixht you only have to pay a fine or something.

He should just withdraw the cryptos with his Coinbase credit card, the 10 € should be in it for the thing then he has a proof for the tax if someone asks if necessary where he can make a few clicks but he has no problem with illegal gambling because that is not checked by the EU because this spinning only DE has again and you are only treated like a felon there if you spin a few slots

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1st Aug. 2024, at 09:52 pm CEST#21

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gamble1 wrote on 01.08.2024 at 20:49:
He should just withdraw the cryptos with his Coinbase credit card the 10 € should be in it for the thing then he has a proof for the tax if someone asks if necessary where he can do it with a few clicks but he has no problem with illegal gambling because that is not checked by the EU because only DE has this spinning again and you are only treated like a felon there if you spin a few slots

But the bank can ask him for proof of where the crypto came from and then they can refuse the transfer from coinbase to current account. The same as with a direct transfer. . It's not worth the mining which consumes a lot of energy. Of course they think in DE that all online banking wallets etc. are suspicious. Are suspicious. This is pure paranoia. Aftermath of the wirecard bankruptcy and then there were the hobby shareholders on Reddit who almost managed to paralyze Wallstreet... and now Lindner is moving to Frankfurt with a new authority to fight black money and money laundering. A bit late. Everyone who had to launder money did it in Hamburg. Apartments in the new Hafencity range from €200,000 to €9 million. You pay cash? No problem.

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2nd Aug. 2024, at 12:15 am CEST#22

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Frankey wrote on 01.08.2024 at 21:52:

But the bank can ask him for proof of where the crypto came from and then they can refuse the transfer from coinbase to current account. Same as with direct transfer. . It's not worth the mining which consumes a lot of energy. Of course they think in DE that all online banking wallets etc. are suspicious. Are suspicious. This is pure paranoia. Aftermath of the wirecard bankruptcy and then there were the hobby shareholders on Reddit who almost managed to paralyze Wallstreet... and now Lindner is moving to Frankfurt with a new authority to fight black money and money laundering. A bit late. Everyone who had to launder money did it in Hamburg. Apartments in the new Hafencity range from €200,000 to €9 million. You pay cash? No problem.

Yes, that's why you don't put it in your account - who wants to do that voluntarily with the fees?

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2nd Aug. 2024, at 12:06 pm CEST#23

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gamble1 wrote on 02.08.2024 00:15:

Yes, that's why you don't book it to the account who wants that voluntarily with the fees

And not to forget, 2 years ago almost every portal or business in crypto was hacked accounts and profile data stolen so that billions were lost in crypto which also led to bankruptcies and or criminal machinations of crypto "banks". First the investors lose access to their own account, then the bank wants to make off somehow. The US courts froze what they could for the time being. That's around 60 billion dollars. The customers would like to be compensated. Many in the USA also had crypto checking accounts. Salaries, pensions, etc. "Crypto is safe and anonymous. Something like Lehmann Brothers can't happen to us "

Molly White is a software engineer and has worked on the development of the blockchain When she realized that many crypto companies are just hot air and nobody actually knows how what works, she did educational work. Among other things, she advised legislators in the US and also the ECB. Then she launched the Web3is going great website. It is accessible to everyone. There she lists all the bad news from the crypto world. And thus shows that Web3 is not "going great" at all: bankruptcies, exonerations, crimes, scams, etc. And the costs. You can turn the counter back to when the site started in 2021. 3 years later, the current figure is 74 trillion dollars. They are gone. https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/

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3rd Aug. 2024, at 09:46 am CEST#24

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Thank you very much for the rainy exchange of information!
I have one more question:

If I want to convert crypto to vouchers, where do you guys do it that way?

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3rd Aug. 2024, at 12:04 pm CEST#25

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https://www.bitrefill.com/de/en/

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3rd Aug. 2024, at 12:24 pm CEST#26

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Pat1991 wrote on 03.08.2024 at 12:04: https://www.bitrefill.com/de/en/

Looks good! I'll check it out if it works with the payout in crypto. Thanks a lot!

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4th Aug. 2024, at 07:21 am CEST#27

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Unfortunately, as expected - I deposited by credit card and now they want to withdraw via bank account.
I asked if crypto would also work and they said that you have to pay out as you deposited, but in fact this is not possible because it cannot be paid out to a credit card. At least not in the same way (it would be possible via bank transfer data)

Based on the statement, I now thought that I would Deposit with Crypto, convert it 3 times and then try to withdraw again after the Verification has been completed.

Any other ideas?

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4th Aug. 2024, at 08:32 am CEST#28

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LucasD wrote on 04.08.2024 at 07:21: Unfortunately as expected - I deposited with a credit card and now I want the payout via bank account.
I asked if crypto would also work and they said that you have to pay out as you deposited, but in fact this is not possible because it cannot be paid out to a credit card. At least not in the same way (it would be possible via bank transfer data)

Based on the statement, I now thought that I would Deposit with Crypto, convert it 3 times and then try to withdraw again after the Verification has been completed.

Anyone have any other ideas?

This is bitter. Do they want the same bank account that was used to deposit?

Based on the statement, I was thinking that I would deposit with crypto, convert it 3 times and then try to withdraw again after the verification has been completed.

That was also my thought.

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4th Aug. 2024, at 09:10 am CEST#29

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So far I have used the KK 90/95% of the time and 1-2x the bank account and now they want to have THAT as a payout account. But KYC was also rejected once although I had submitted everything... I try it again & Deposit something in crypto as your thought confirms and convert it 3x and after the KYC I try it again in it also to pay out again. Because when I asked the support if I can do it this way he didn't say no or yes but wrote that it can only be paid out in the deposit method used.
In the terms and conditions there is also something about "if possible", which is not possible for me to pay out to the bank account because the option is not available there (I have already noted this; therefore they will take the bank account next, maybe it really works that way now...)

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4th Aug. 2024, at 09:28 am CEST#30

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Watch out! Having a large gambling win paid out to your bank account can lead to massive problems for you. I would avoid this like the devil avoids holy water.

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