Ichbins2018 wrote on 04/01/2019 5:49 PM: Man bone you are one tough cookie,
it just do not apply your personal interpretations what concerns online gambling,
but on the one hand the State Treaty on Gambling -and on the other hand what concerns online gambling -the Supreme Court case law regarding this!
And probably the German!
Hm yes the topic was yes banks...is really stupid for you if the now also still start to adhere to valid laws.
EU law is above national law, national laws may not override EU law, so it does not matter what the German law, even if it is supreme court, ultimately says, if it does not conform to EU law.
On the subject of banks, why are they now starting to comply with valid laws? For years, they have violated it by making transfers to Online Casinos, so only becomes a shoe.
EU law is above national law, National laws are not allowed to override EU law, so it doesn't matter here what German law, even if it is supreme court, ultimately says if it doesn't conform to EU law.
Some players seem to like to make everything up as they go along, but it rarely corresponds to reality.
What exactly do you want to tell me now that disproves my statements?
What am I trying to prove?
That EU law is always above national law?
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This has already been established by the Court of Justice of the European un ion and the Federal Administrative Court with regard to the former general Internet ban because of the particular danger of gambling on the Internet compared to conventional gambling (including unlimited availability of the offer, convenience, lack of protection for minors).
Since the Court of Justice of the EU sees this in exactly the same way, it is only this ruling that makes it possible; if the Court of Justice had seen it differently, the German court could have turned on its head, it cannot speak against applicable EU law.
What I would have liked or not, plays here no role, that is now times fact and as such also to be regarded as reality.
Oh dear Volksbank. I've only had negative experiences with them. It started when I was a child. My mother was a customer at the Volksbank and the Sparkasse. Even as a child, I didn't like the Volksbank because the employees at that branch were so unfriendly and spiteful. At the Sparkasse, they were friendly and I always got something to play with and was kept busy by an employee, while my mother got advice.
Later I had nevertheless with the Volksbank an account and this was quit to me instant, when I was short time 20€ in the minus. How I slipped into the minus I do not know any more, a Dispo I had in any case not. At that time I was broke and my Sparkasse account was cancelled (at least for understandable reasons). I was over 3 months 400 € in the minus and had no more cash receipts. That the Volksbank also closed my account because of 20€, made me very uncomfortable at that time. They also did not want to reopen it at that time against payment of the 20€.
Also an acquaintance of me had massive problems with this bank. He had a loan canceled, which was also not so clean and he would have almost lost his livelihood at that time if another bank had not helped him (which bank that was, I no longer know).
This all has not really much to do with this thread, but wanted to get this off my chest
@Sweep88: There are dozens of other banks and I would just switch if I were you. As I said, based on personal experience, I don't recommend this bank. Maybe I still make a bank comparison: The Volksbank would be instant with me on the Blacklist
I would open an account at a foreign bank nowadays and always gamble from there. There are more than enough and the Volksbank really no one needs nowadays.
Bunq is a Dutch bank without limits and you can order as many prepaid credit cards as you want and withdraw 500€ per card and day at the ATM. Bunq also makes transfers faster than any other bank I've used (sometimes arriving at the recipient within a few seconds).
Daniel wrote on 01.04.2019 at 20:25: Oh jeh Volksbank. I've only had negative experiences with it too. It started when I was a child. My mother was a customer of Volksbank and Sparkasse. I didn't like the Volksbank even as a child because the employees of this branch were so unfriendly and spiteful. At the savings bank, they were friendly and I always got something to play with and was kept busy by an employee, while my mother got advice.
Later I had nevertheless with the Volksbank an account and this was quit to me instant, when I was short time 20€ in the minus. How I slipped into the minus I do not know any more, a Dispo I had in any case not. At that time I was broke and my Sparkasse account was cancelled (at least for understandable reasons). I was over 3 months 400 € in the minus and had no more cash receipts. That the Volksbank also closed my account because of 20€, made me very uncomfortable at that time. They did not want to reopen it at that time against payment of the 20€.
Also an acquaintance of me had massive problems with this bank. He had a loan canceled, which was also not so clean and he would have almost lost his livelihood at that time, if another bank had not helped him (which bank that was, I no longer know).
This all has not really much to do with this thread, but wanted to get this off my chest
@Sweep88: There are dozens of other banks and I would just switch if I were you. As I said, based on personal experience, I don't recommend this bank. Maybe I still make a bank comparison: The Volksbank would be instant with me on the Blacklist
I would open an account at a foreign bank nowadays and always gamble from there. There are more than enough and the Volksbank really no one needs nowadays.
Bunq is a Dutch bank without limits and you can order as many prepaid credit cards as you want and withdraw 500€ per card and day at the ATM. Bunq also makes transfers faster than any other bank I've used (sometimes arriving at the recipient within a few seconds).
The further ahead the bank in this list, the better in my opinion / experience. Bunq (#1), Leopay (#2), etc.
I didn't expect such sweeping statements. I'm with Volksbank and they have been nice to me since I was a kid and still are...
Only the financial conditions I find not so good. But service technically I have made good experiences and depending on the branch will be awesome difference.
Kleinkariert wrote on 04/01/2019 at 8:55 pm
I didn't expect such sweeping statements. I am with Volksbank and they have been immet nice to me since childhood and still are....
Was also not really meant seriously - thought that would be clear, due to the deviousness with the childhood memories
Personally, I still do not like the Volksbanken (based on personal experience and stories). However, I do not want to say that this bank or all branches must be fundamentally bad. I am also not able to judge banks objectively - I am too little in the subject. Therefore, I can only speak from personal experience, which is bad at Volksbank and good at Bunq.
Daniel wrote on 01/04/2019 at 20:58
Wasn't really serious either - thought that was clear, due to the deviousness with childhood memories
I personally don't like credit un ions anyway (based on personal experience and stories). However, I do not want to say that this bank or all branches must be fundamentally bad. I am also not able to judge banks objectively - I am too little in the subject. Therefore, I can only speak from personal experience, which is bad at Volksbank and good at Bunq.
How wärs with the sparda bank 👹eine acquaintance of mine was canceled her account because she has too little account movement that a pensioner
to say is already the hammer 👹🤣🤣
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Can only agree with daniel, take your own zockerkonto, and not at the very well-known banks. There is enough choice, they are free with MasterCard
Yes, the dear Volksbank is predestined for stress and unnecessary paperwork.
My notice is also already ready, I'm just waiting for the general meeting on April 11, the next working day of I'm gone, but I let me but in no case spoil, in the end cancel my cards and let me net pure 🤣
With me, the current always make trouble when I Deposit money with my partner. Trustly they have completely blocked me, reasons has until today no one can explain exactly 🤷🏻♀️
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I think both - and since there is a lot of money at stake here, one crow will not peck out another eye
My personal conclusion: the game will go on
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EU law is above national law, national laws may not override EU law, so it does not matter what the German law, even if it is supreme court, ultimately says, if it does not conform to EU law.
On the subject of banks, why are they now starting to comply with valid laws? For years, they have violated it by making transfers to Online Casinos, so only becomes a shoe.
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Nope...
https://www.bverwg.de/pm/2017/74
Some players seem to like to make everything up as they go along, but it rarely corresponds to reality
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What exactly do you want to tell me now that disproves my statements?
What am I trying to prove?
That EU law is always above national law?
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This has already been established by the Court of Justice of the European un ion and the Federal Administrative Court with regard to the former general Internet ban because of the particular danger of gambling on the Internet compared to conventional gambling (including unlimited availability of the offer, convenience, lack of protection for minors).
Since the Court of Justice of the EU sees this in exactly the same way, it is only this ruling that makes it possible; if the Court of Justice had seen it differently, the German court could have turned on its head, it cannot speak against applicable EU law.
What I would have liked or not, plays here no role, that is now times fact and as such also to be regarded as reality.
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Later I had nevertheless with the Volksbank an account and this was quit to me instant, when I was short time 20€ in the minus. How I slipped into the minus I do not know any more, a Dispo I had in any case not. At that time I was broke and my Sparkasse account was cancelled (at least for understandable reasons). I was over 3 months 400 € in the minus and had no more cash receipts. That the Volksbank also closed my account because of 20€, made me very uncomfortable at that time. They also did not want to reopen it at that time against payment of the 20€.
Also an acquaintance of me had massive problems with this bank. He had a loan canceled, which was also not so clean and he would have almost lost his livelihood at that time if another bank had not helped him (which bank that was, I no longer know).
This all has not really much to do with this thread, but wanted to get this off my chest
@Sweep88: There are dozens of other banks and I would just switch if I were you. As I said, based on personal experience, I don't recommend this bank. Maybe I still make a bank comparison: The Volksbank would be instant with me on the Blacklist
I would open an account at a foreign bank nowadays and always gamble from there. There are more than enough and the Volksbank really no one needs nowadays.
I personally recommend Bunq - Bank of the free!
Bunq is a Dutch bank without limits and you can order as many prepaid credit cards as you want and withdraw 500€ per card and day at the ATM. Bunq also makes transfers faster than any other bank I've used (sometimes arriving at the recipient within a few seconds).
Then there is Leopay; Revolut; Paysera ; Monese ; Mr. Tango and and and ...
The further ahead the bank in this list, the better in my opinion / experience. Bunq (#1), Leopay (#2), etc.
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I didn't expect such sweeping statements. I'm with Volksbank and they have been nice to me since I was a kid and still are...
Only the financial conditions I find not so good. But service technically I have made good experiences and depending on the branch will be awesome difference.
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Was also not really meant seriously - thought that would be clear, due to the deviousness with the childhood memories
Personally, I still do not like the Volksbanken (based on personal experience and stories). However, I do not want to say that this bank or all branches must be fundamentally bad. I am also not able to judge banks objectively - I am too little in the subject. Therefore, I can only speak from personal experience, which is bad at Volksbank and good at Bunq.
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How wärs with the sparda bank 👹eine acquaintance of mine was canceled her account because she has too little account movement that a pensioner
to say is already the hammer 👹🤣🤣
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My notice is also already ready, I'm just waiting for the general meeting on April 11, the next working day of I'm gone, but I let me but in no case spoil, in the end cancel my cards and let me net pure 🤣
With me, the current always make trouble when I Deposit money with my partner. Trustly they have completely blocked me, reasons has until today no one can explain exactly 🤷🏻♀️
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