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Volksbank makes serious !?
1st Apr. 2019, at 02:35 pm CEST#23
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So you dear ...have gambled yesterday evening again at Lapalingo ...20 € pure and went then always up and down ...times on 200 then down again on 50 and and and ...
After 3 hours of gambling just had no more nerve and 50.00 € can be paid out !
Was also paid out after an hour ( Yes they can also be different )
So now the real ...
Just got a call from my bank and they all seriously wanted to know where the 50.00 € come from!
50,00 € !!!
She said due to new security regulations, she had to ask that !
The transfer comes from PPRO Financial Ltd...
Ok said it was from my prepaid MasterCard ...ah ok she said then she will note that !
I asked ...what is the problem ? security and due to several violations of the gambling law and the related money laundering law ...
Was still wondering yesterday evening why I suddenly got the message when depositing ..."transaction not possible ...please choose another bank account" !
Yes ! account is covered !
Do not know if this now applies to all VB but with me is end with Deposit via Sofort ...
Can be that now DE far so will come!
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Volksbank makes serious !?
1st Apr. 2019, at 02:41 pm CEST#1
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That's good and right. Now, at last, the laws in force are being adhered to
Volksbank that says it all 👀🐱🐉
just go to another bank 😜😜
sparda bank has a known of me, her account canceled, because she has too little account movement, that a pensioner
to say is already the hammer 👹🤣🤣
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1st Apr. 2019, at 03:03 pm CEST#3
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In the first moment really stupid when the bank interferes so in the privacy.... But if you see it in the long term, it is very good... It helps a lot of extreme addicts to get out of a hole... And if it doesn't work anymore, there's no way out... If you get in trouble with a payout, you might think twice about paying online again..
Bella wrote on 01.04.2019 at 15:03: In the first moment really sau Stöd if the bank interferes so in the privacy.... But if you see it in the long term, it is very good.... It helps a lot of extreme addicts to get out of a hole... And if it doesn't work anymore, there's no way out... If you get in trouble with a payout, you might think twice about paying online again...
Questionable whether this is really good. But one thing is pretty clear to me: This kind of policy is NOT about helping the addicts. It's about money and lobbying. Try to compare this with alcohol. In Germany, it is assumed that there are 1.8 million alcoholics. At the same time, you can buy alcohol in every supermarket, gas station, kiosk or restaurant in Germany without any problems. There are contact points for alcoholics, therapies and clinics that specialize only in this disease. So the approach that is being taken is not a preventative measure against this type of drug. A few years ago I was in Prague for a few days. To my surprise, at that time there was a prohibition there: alcohol with a content of more than 20% was completely eliminated from the assortment of all supermarkets, even in restaurants or discos you could not buy high-proof alcohol, not even in the form of cocktails or other mixed drinks. The Czech Republic itself also has a big problem with alcohol addiction, but that was not the reason for this measure. The reason was bootleg alcohol that was coming onto the market in large quantities
In Germany, gambling is not illegal. Anyone can go to a gambling house or casino and play for money at a machine or gaming table. Anyone who is barred can still go to another gambling house. If now the banks are increasingly paying attention to the fact that no more payments are made to Online Casinos, this is certainly not due to player protection. The Player protection in online casinos is also not worse than that in gaming arcades. A real gambling addict who gambles away his money in online casinos will come to terms with the situation and instead visit gambling houses or casinos if it becomes impossible to Deposit and withdraw money online
I don't know all the facts but for me the whole thing smells strongly of lobbying by the gambling industry. Novomatic and Merkur certainly have their fingers in the pie here, because these providers benefit when players lose their money in gambling houses instead of in the online casino
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Volksbank makes serious !?
1st Apr. 2019, at 05:28 pm CEST#5
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Sweep88 wrote on 01.04.2019 at 14:35: So you dear ...have gambled yesterday evening again at Lapalingo ...20 € pure and went then always up and down ...times on 200 then down again on 50 and and and ...
After 3 hours of gambling just had no more nerve and 50.00 € can be paid out !
Was also paid out after an hour ( Yes they can also be different )
So now the real ...
Just got a call from my bank and they all seriously wanted to know where the 50.00 € come from!
50,00 € !!!
She said due to new security regulations, she had to ask that !
The transfer comes from PPRO Financial Ltd...
Ok said it was from my prepaid MasterCard ...ah ok she said then she will note that !
I asked ...what is the problem ? security and due to several violations of the gambling law and the related money laundering law ...
Was still wondering yesterday evening why I suddenly got the message when depositing ..."transaction not possible ...please choose another bank account" !
Yes ! account is covered !
Do not know if this now applies to all VB but with me is end with Deposit via Sofort ...
Can be that now DE far so will come!
I'm also at the Volksbank so I had not yet
Only in a payout transfer from Ladbrokes but that was also 5 digits
In Germany, gambling is not ONLY legal @Knochen, online even less so and for all other games you need a permit or a valid license
And to be precise, even in a retirement home you would need a permit, so if you ever organize a Bingo night for the "old".
As for your alcohol comparison,
first of all, it's a drug that someone consciously chooses -
and secondly, there is prevention work concerning alcohol and so on - even starts in elementary school.
Everyone is -should and is warned in advance against alcohol abuse..as well as against drugs
And in this case you can really say "you are and you one has warned you"!
So completely in contrast to the gambling (to thank of course at the lobby) which on the one hand of course nothing omits to make the gambling for everyone palatable - and on the other hand also really nothing omits to breed new addicts.
Prevention is what gambling concerns (in the FRG) on a very low level...must be of course also so, finally the policy plans already in the apron the/your/your coal in.
Oh yes, that the offline providers the online business of course stinks (of course, the communities and the associated entertainment tax) is perfectly clear.
But as soon as liberalized, the Gauselmänneken and consortia back in the online business, they will certainly calm down again
They are currently losing a lot of coal - and voluntarily accept something, especially what harms their business, that they have not yet done. (see e.g. TR 5)
And I'm quite sure, due to the online boom, they are currently losing a lot of money
Hm yes the topic was yes banks...is really stupid for you if they now also start to adhere to valid laws.
But I don't think you have to worry for long, after all you are good for billions - and our state will certainly get a piece of cake.
Apart from the last (billions that are gambled away) at least warn your children against this devil's broth, at least your gambling then still had something good.
Ichbins2018 wrote on 01.04.2019 at 17:31: In Germany gambling is not ONLY legal @Knochen, online even less so and for all other games you need a permit or a valid license
And to be precise, even in the old people's home you would need a permit, so if you ever organize a Bingo evening for the "old".
As for your alcohol comparison,
first of all, it's a drug that someone consciously chooses -
and secondly, there is prevention work concerning alcohol and so on - even starts in elementary school.
Everyone is -should and is warned in advance against alcohol abuse..as well as against drugs
And in this case you can really say "you are and you one has warned you"!
So completely in contrast to the gambling (to thank of course at the lobby) which on the one hand of course nothing omits to make the gambling for everyone palatable - and on the other hand also really nothing omits to breed new addicts.
Prevention is what gambling concerns (in the FRG) on a very low level...must of course also be so, finally the policy plans already in the apron the/your/your coal in.
Oh yes, that the offline providers the online business of course stinks (of course, the communities and the associated entertainment tax) is perfectly clear.
But as soon as liberalized, the Gauselmänneken and Konsorten back in the online business, they will certainly calm down again
They are currently losing a lot of coal - and voluntarily accept something, especially what harms their business, that they have not yet done. (see e.g. TR 5)
And I'm quite sure, due to the online boom, they are currently losing a lot of money
Hm yes the topic was yes banks...is really stupid for you if they now also start to adhere to valid laws.
But I don't think you have to worry for long, after all you are good for billions - and our state will certainly get a piece of cake.
Apart from the last (billions that are gambled away) at least warn your children against this devil's broth, at least your gambling then still had something good.
Show me the law that makes online gambling illegal? There is no such thing. There is simply a gambling monopoly. The state could probably open its own online casino and everything would be legal, as would payments to and from banks
The state has simply screwed itself by deciding that machines in gambling parlors and pubs are not gambling. I would like to see a single expert witness in court who will testify under oath that this is not gambling
it's just not your personal interpretations what the online gambling concerns,
but on the one hand the gambling treaty - and on the other hand what the online gambling concerns - the Supreme Court case law concerning this!
And probably the German!
Ichbins2018 wrote on 04/01/2019 5:49 PM: Man bone you are one tough cookie,
it just do not apply your personal interpretations what concerns online gambling,
but on the one hand the State Treaty on Gambling -and on the other hand what concerns online gambling -the Supreme Court case law regarding this!
And probably the German!
Ne do not understand me there wrongly. I am fully aware that it is illegal for German banks to process such payments
I just don't like the "logic" behind it. The politicians either have too little expertise in the matter or the lobbying was too strong
Volksbank makes serious !?
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After 3 hours of gambling just had no more nerve and 50.00 € can be paid out !
Was also paid out after an hour ( Yes they can also be different )
So now the real ...
Just got a call from my bank and they all seriously wanted to know where the 50.00 € come from!
50,00 € !!!
She said due to new security regulations, she had to ask that !
The transfer comes from PPRO Financial Ltd...
Ok said it was from my prepaid MasterCard ...ah ok she said then she will note that !
I asked ...what is the problem ?
security and due to several violations of the gambling law and the related money laundering law ...
Was still wondering yesterday evening why I suddenly got the message when depositing ..."transaction not possible ...please choose another bank account" !
Yes ! account is covered !
Do not know if this now applies to all VB but with me is end with Deposit via Sofort ...
Can be that now DE far so will come!
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just go to another bank 😜😜
sparda bank has a known of me, her account canceled, because she has too little account movement, that a pensioner
to say is already the hammer 👹🤣🤣
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Questionable whether this is really good. But one thing is pretty clear to me: This kind of policy is NOT about helping the addicts. It's about money and lobbying. Try to compare this with alcohol. In Germany, it is assumed that there are 1.8 million alcoholics. At the same time, you can buy alcohol in every supermarket, gas station, kiosk or restaurant in Germany without any problems. There are contact points for alcoholics, therapies and clinics that specialize only in this disease. So the approach that is being taken is not a preventative measure against this type of drug. A few years ago I was in Prague for a few days. To my surprise, at that time there was a prohibition there: alcohol with a content of more than 20% was completely eliminated from the assortment of all supermarkets, even in restaurants or discos you could not buy high-proof alcohol, not even in the form of cocktails or other mixed drinks. The Czech Republic itself also has a big problem with alcohol addiction, but that was not the reason for this measure. The reason was bootleg alcohol that was coming onto the market in large quantities
In Germany, gambling is not illegal. Anyone can go to a gambling house or casino and play for money at a machine or gaming table. Anyone who is barred can still go to another gambling house. If now the banks are increasingly paying attention to the fact that no more payments are made to Online Casinos, this is certainly not due to player protection. The Player protection in online casinos is also not worse than that in gaming arcades. A real gambling addict who gambles away his money in online casinos will come to terms with the situation and instead visit gambling houses or casinos if it becomes impossible to Deposit and withdraw money online
I don't know all the facts but for me the whole thing smells strongly of lobbying by the gambling industry. Novomatic and Merkur certainly have their fingers in the pie here, because these providers benefit when players lose their money in gambling houses instead of in the online casino
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I'm also at the Volksbank so I had not yet
Only in a payout transfer from Ladbrokes but that was also 5 digits
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And to be precise, even in a retirement home you would need a permit, so if you ever organize a Bingo night for the "old".
As for your alcohol comparison,
first of all, it's a drug that someone consciously chooses -
and secondly, there is prevention work concerning alcohol and so on - even starts in elementary school.
Everyone is -should and is warned in advance against alcohol abuse..as well as against drugs
And in this case you can really say "you are and you one has warned you"!
So completely in contrast to the gambling (to thank of course at the lobby) which on the one hand of course nothing omits to make the gambling for everyone palatable - and on the other hand also really nothing omits to breed new addicts.
Prevention is what gambling concerns (in the FRG) on a very low level...must be of course also so, finally the policy plans already in the apron the/your/your coal in.
Oh yes, that the offline providers the online business of course stinks (of course, the communities and the associated entertainment tax) is perfectly clear.
But as soon as liberalized, the Gauselmänneken and consortia back in the online business, they will certainly calm down again
They are currently losing a lot of coal - and voluntarily accept something, especially what harms their business, that they have not yet done. (see e.g. TR 5)
And I'm quite sure, due to the online boom, they are currently losing a lot of money
Hm yes the topic was yes banks...is really stupid for you if they now also start to adhere to valid laws.
But I don't think you have to worry for long, after all you are good for billions - and our state will certainly get a piece of cake.
Apart from the last (billions that are gambled away) at least warn your children against this devil's broth, at least your gambling then still had something good.
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Show me the law that makes online gambling illegal? There is no such thing. There is simply a gambling monopoly. The state could probably open its own online casino and everything would be legal, as would payments to and from banks
The state has simply screwed itself by deciding that machines in gambling parlors and pubs are not gambling. I would like to see a single expert witness in court who will testify under oath that this is not gambling
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it's just not your personal interpretations what the online gambling concerns,
but on the one hand the gambling treaty - and on the other hand what the online gambling concerns - the Supreme Court case law concerning this!
And probably the German!
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Ne do not understand me there wrongly. I am fully aware that it is illegal for German banks to process such payments
I just don't like the "logic" behind it. The politicians either have too little expertise in the matter or the lobbying was too strong
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