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Deposit and withdrawal methods: unsettled Ares Casino- payout takes forever (Page 2)

Topic created on 12th Sep. 2018 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 22 | Views: 11,210
Daniel
Elite
fries wrote on 09/14/2018 at 10:13 am: Hello Simbda,

i wonder what they are doing there--of course still working with the money

Yes, they work with money. Most definitely, in fact. In the worst case, the money will flow into human traff**king, illegal arms traff**king or other criminal channels.

I honestly find this thread very strange as well and doubt the authenticity. If your case is real: lucky, you seem to have won too little. If your case is real, I also advise you not to play there in the future - no offense intended! There are enough Online Casinos that do not work with fake slots.

@all readers: The Ares Casino is not a recommendable online casino, even if the thread creator has received his money or should have received the money(?). Ares Casino is an "online casino" that does not have a gambling license and works with fake slots

These reasons speak against playing in online casinos like Ares Casino , Fururiti Casino or 77Jackpot :

1. It is in Germany after §285 a criminal offense (also for players) to participate in illegal gambling. Illegality in this case is no longer a gray area, but 100% given. German law would also be applicable in such cases, in my estimation, and a conviction would also be possible in practice.

2. Since the games offered there are counterfeits, a fair and random game cannot be guaranteed.

3. Sensitive data such as credit card information is not safe at online casinos, which display such a high level of criminality. Credit card information could theoretically be leaked to the Darknet through such channels. Submitted IDs can be forged and sold, which would result in someone simply taking the data of the submitted ID, copying it and simply swapping the image. With this ID, you can then do a lot of things and in the worst case, a money laundering account is opened with this ID and suddenly you are sitting innocently in custody and don't know why. There are really no limits to creativity here.

4. Payouts are not safe - even if you adhere to the terms and conditions, bonus conditions, etc.. You are 100% dependent on the goodwill of the casino.

5. The funds go in the best case to some scammers who only want to enrich themselves. In the worst case, the money flows into criminal channels, which you should not support.

Please do yourself a big favor by not registering there (with your real data), let alone playing there. There are so many online casinos licensed in Europe and therefore no reason to play there and take unnecessary risks.

When I think about it, it makes me feel very different! I ask in the future everyone in this community to bring these arguments whenever a thread about online casinos with fake slots is opened. It is important that, if possible, everyone who is aware of such dangerous online casinos (aside from denied payouts) is informed and educated. Unfortunately, as in this case, we can not always react immediately and the important info then ends up on page 2 of the thread in question.

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spielo
Rookie
Dear Daniel, don't be ridiculous, it's nice that you quote the German criminal law, but that applies to all online casinos. Whether EU or not, criminal law is criminal law!


I ask in the future everyone in this community to bring these arguments whenever a thread about Online Casinos with fake slots is opened.

Why only with fake slots, are other online casinos legal? Honestly you make yourself so untrustworthy and deceive your own readers. Playing in online casinos is illegal no matter where and in which. The only exception are casinos that have a license in Schleswig Holstein and even there it is illegal to play outside the state


Maybe you should come down from your high horse and not only shoot against casinos that you do not like but see the reality in the face. You run an illegal gambling site with advertising for online casinos. Ok by your seat in Malta and the disguise of your hosting it is legal, but just the advertising of casinos in Germany is already illegal, just like playing in casinos. So save yourself the moralizer to play, if one sits in the glass house. Apart from that, your lotteries of Paysafekarts are also illegal or do you have a license to do that and is that controlled by the state?

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Anonym
spielo wrote on 15.09.2018 at 09:49: Dear Daniel, do not be ridiculous, it's nice that you quote the German criminal law, but that applies to all online casinos. Whether EU or not, criminal law is criminal law!!!



Why only with fake slots, because other Online Casinos are legal? Honestly you make yourself so untrustworthy and deceive your own readers. Playing in online casinos is illegal no matter where and in which. The only exception are casinos that have a license in Schleswig Holstein and even there it is illegal to play outside the state


Maybe you should come down from your high horse and not only shoot against casinos that you do not like but see the reality in the face. You run an illegal gambling site with advertising for online casinos. Ok by your seat in Malta and the disguise of your hosting it is legal, but just the advertising of casinos in Germany is already illegal, just like playing in casinos. So save yourself the moralizer to play, if one sits even in the glass house. Apart from that, your lotteries of Paysafekarts are also illegal or do you have a license to do that and is that controlled by the state?

The lottery of Paysafecards is not illegal, I do not want to take Gamblejoe completely in protection. But come down from your high horse, because it makes a difference whether you play in a casino that has an EU license or in one that has none. EU law stands above national law, which is why a player with a high win was acquitted in the second instance and allowed to keep his winnings.

I do not want to make a blanket condemnation against casinos without a license or say that the regulatory authorities do a good job, but just that a casino acquires a license and makes the effort - makes it more credible for me that you will rarely have problems in the casino. As for Ares Casino, it's pretty clear that there's more to it than you want to disclose here. I have now made the effort, the Ares Casino has previously operated under other names, payouts only rarely and if then they take forever. The slots there on the other hand are 100% fake from Novo to Netent everything fake. Askgambler has the Ares Casino no longer listed because of the complaints and the players there warn against playing there and also on Casinomeister warns against it.

Strangely enough, not on your site, which you *cough* don't own. You are a pathetic Affiliate who wants to rob naive people of their money. Original slots are hosted by the game manufacturers, even if it's not a gray area in DE (which it partly is due to the latest rulings) - it's better to play at the original which is at least legal in other countries. Than in a casino that offers fake slots and is illegal in the whole EU! But you could argue about it forever, but I can not believe a word you since this post.

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spielo
Rookie
Eigendlich I do not rule here more on contributions that do not come from Daniel but ......


You are a pathetic Affiliate who wants to rob naive people of their money.



how do you know that, can you prove it? It's sad how you all jump on Daniel's boat here. i used to be an affiliate in 1995 that's true, but I haven't been for 10 years, I have nothing to do with the fraudulent business anymore. What the sites on which I am still on the road, promote or not is their business, just like here

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spielo
Rookie

The lottery of Paysafecards is not illegal

You may actually be right about that and I apologize for my statement. Even if the participation is linked to postings and points building, it is not illegal, sorry for that!

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Anonym
spielo wrote on 15.09.2018 at 11:45: Eigendlich I no longer respond here to posts that are not from Daniel but ......





how do you know that, can you prove it? It's sad how you all jump on Daniel's boat here. i used to be an Affiliate back in 1995, but I haven't been for the last 10 years, I have nothing to do with the fraudulent business anymore. What the sites on which I am still on the road, promote or not is their business, just like here

Naya, the spelling has similarities with Spielo from this forum: https://www.playworld-online.com/forum/online-casinos/promotionen-bonusangebote-spiele-news/9763-5%C2%80-gratis-bonus-ohne-einzahlung-novoline.html and the thread is about Ares Casino which you praise somewhat (has developed well, the best games - fake or not, no payout problems). In addition, the Spielo also complains about Quasar, ... also the spelling fits to a large extent.

I do not want to badmouth you, but if you already talk bad about Quasar, etc. then you do not need to defend Ares Casino in your way. Because all casinos make money from us when we play there with our deposits. But there are differences in security and quality, at Ares the login is not even encrypted. Also, there are some screenshots that show how brazen the casino can be, I can imagine that there is paid out from time to time - but I can not recommend the casino with a clear conscience or put on the same level as some of the EU licensed (there are enough casinos that are registered in Malta and only make problems here).

If you have nothing more to do with this "fraudulent business" why are you still on the sites, from where the change of heart? I am quite interested in how you are as a person, what you think and what is your intention here. Do you want to warn everyone about casino gambling or do you want to tell us that it is ok to play at Arescasino (former 77jackpot)? I can not clearly assign your statement. That it is best not to play at all, I still go along - but somehow your statements do not quite fit together and that's my problem...

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spielo
Rookie
If you have nothing more to do with this "fraudulent business" why are you still on the pages, where the change of heart? I am interested in how you are as a person, what you think and what is your intention here. Do you want to warn everyone about playing casino or do you want to tell us that it is ok to play at Arescasino (former 77jackpot)? I can not clearly assign your statement. That it is best not to play at all, I still go along - but somehow your statements do not quite fit together and that is my problem...

I will be happy to answer your questions....


I have learned in all these years to look at everything neutrally, because I know all sides as an Affiliate, casino partner and player. 10 years ago I sold everything and withdrew completely from the active business, because it is worse in the background like stock trading and Co. I know now times still many managers, owners and website operators, therefore I am also still in the other forums on the road. As you can see everywhere, always with the same Nik as here, I have nothing to hide!

About the casino, Ares and 77 Jackpot are two casinos but the same operators. I also do not take them in defense, just the fact that is always claimed that they do not pay, cheat whatever is simply false. Ares takes longer to pay out, that's true. But it still pays out. You should read in the other forum, all cases to Ares were solved positively there. But I do not want to go further on the two casinos, everyone is left to play there or not

What I do not really like here is that here is an opinion on the part of the operator is represented so not true. Today, there are hardly any Online Casinos that cheat, in the past that looked quite different. Initially, it was the RTG casinos that were controlled by Israelis and actually cheated that the beams have bent. But even that was stopped over the years and today 99% of all RGT casinos are reputable, although they all have no Malta license

In almost all online casinos, the bonus offers and their confusing conditions provide enough for people to fall for it again and again and not be paid out. This has nothing to do with fraud but rather with the fact that people are too lazy to read terms and conditions when they are already playing with money from the casino

I myself am gladly still in the forums on the road and could already bring many players to their right. I also do not care if it is a Malta, Curacao or Timbuktu licensed. As long as the players have not broken any terms and conditions, I always stand up for it. I think that is the purpose of the casino forums

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Anonym
spielo wrote on 09/15/2018 at 12:32 PM
Happy to answer your questions....


I have learned in all these years to look at everything neutrally, because I know all sides as an Affiliate, casino part owner and player. 10 years ago I sold everything and withdrew completely from the active business, because it is worse in the background like stock trading and Co. I know now times still many managers, owners and website operators, therefore I am also still in the other forums on the road. As you can see everywhere, always with the same Nik as here, I have nothing to hide!

About the casino, Ares and 77 Jackpot are two casinos but the same operators. I also do not take them in defense, just the fact that is always claimed that they do not pay, cheat whatever is simply false. Ares takes longer to pay out, that's true. But it still pays out. You should read in the other forum, all cases to Ares were solved positively there. But I do not want to go further on the two casinos, everyone is left to play there or not

What I do not really like here is that here is an opinion on the part of the operator is represented so not true. Today, there are hardly any Online Casinos that cheat, in the past that looked quite different. Initially, it was the RTG casinos that were controlled by Israelis and actually cheated that the beams have bent. But even that was stopped over the years and today 99% of all RGT casinos are reputable, although they all have no Malta license

In almost all online casinos, the bonus offers and their confusing conditions provide enough for people to fall for it again and again and not be paid out. But this has nothing to do with fraud but rather with the fact that people are too lazy to read terms and conditions when they are already playing with money from the casino

I myself am gladly still in the forums on the road and could already bring many players to their right. I also do not care if it is a Malta, Curacao or Timbuktu licensed. As long as the players have not broken any terms and conditions, I always stand up for it. I think that is the purpose of the casino forums.

Thank you for replying, your answer satisfies me at least halfway.

In this sense, I take the poor with the first time back. The discussion whether licenses play a role I now push aside and say goodbye to the thread.

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pommes
Rookie
I did not want to start such a debate here.
I was just unsettled because I first played and then read here that this casino probably does not pay and is not reputable.
Then I got a little scared.

This is not a fake and I am not. I have won 2500 euros, which is a lot of money for me, I had already written it off
and just wanted some advice here.

Thank you in any case and wish everyone a nice Sunday

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Geeman
Rookie
CAUTION ! These Ares rats have another "casino" at www.casinomga.com

Exact copy, without license information and the like.
They have stolen all their games (Novo Netent etc) !

https://casinofm.de/fake-casinos-warnung-ares-casino-77-jackpot-futuriti/

20 eur have gone down the drain, that was my last 20 (the month has not even begun )
For this I chop off their fingers these miserable rats !

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