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Deposit and withdrawal methods: Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

Topic created on 24th Nov. 2023 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 16 | Views: 2,254
Anonymus
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Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 11:38 am CET#1
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Hello everyone,
in June of this year, I made a Deposit of 500 euros with Tipico via Klarna instant bank transfer.
The money was immediately available in my Tipico account. I gambled it away and wondered for days why the money was still in my account. In other words, it was never debited from my bank account.

2 weeks later I received an email from Tipico saying that something had gone wrong with the deposit and that I should please transfer the 500 euros manually.

I ignored this and have never received anything from them since. Am I in any kind of trouble here or is the maximum they can do - close my account there?

Thank you already and LG

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Bluff
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Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 12:09 pm CET#2
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Do not wake sleeping dogs.

Just don't react.

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Lionking
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Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 12:32 pm CET#3
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Anonymous wrote on 24.11.2023 at 11:38 am: Hello everyone,
in June this year I made a Deposit of 500 euros at Tipico via Klarna instant bank transfer.
The money was immediately available in my Tipico account. I gambled it away and wondered for days why the money was still in my account. In other words, it was never debited from my bank account.

2 weeks later I received an email from Tipico saying that something had gone wrong with the deposit and that I should please transfer the 500 euros manually.

I ignored this and have never received anything from them since. Am I in any kind of trouble here or is the maximum they can do - close my account there?

Thank you already and LG

The maximum will probably be that Tipico will use all available means to get the 500 loops. Perhaps they will commission a Debt collection agency or exhaust all legal means to obtain a title against you (default summons, enforcement order) if you do not pay. But first they would have to send you a reminder with a request for payment.

Since Tipico is a German-licensed Provider and you have claimed the sports betting offer, I can hardly imagine that they will let the claim fall by the wayside.
However, it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if you had won, i.e. whether they would have deducted the deposit amount and left the win or declared the bet void.
They will certainly also block your Tipico account.

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Anonymus
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Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 12:44 pm CET#4
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Lionking wrote on 24.11.2023 at 12:32 pm:

The maximum will probably be that Tipico will use all available means to get the 500 loops. Perhaps they will commission a Debt collection agency or exhaust all legal means to obtain a title against you (reminder notice, enforcement order) if you do not pay. But first they would have to send you a reminder with a request for payment.

Since Tipico is a German-licensed Provider and you have claimed the sports betting offer, I can hardly imagine that they will let the claim fall by the wayside.
However, it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if you had won, i.e. whether they would have deducted the Deposit amount and left the win or declared the bet void.
They will certainly also block your Tipico account.

Okay. So far I've only received an email in June saying that the payment failed and that I should transfer the money to Tipico manually, provide a screenshot and as soon as that's done I'll be able to use Sofortüberweisung again. Nothing more has come since then. This means that if you were to take further steps against me, you would most likely first send me a new, more recent request to transfer the money, right?

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Lionking
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24th Nov. 2023, at 12:49 pm CET#5
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Bluff wrote on 24.11.2023 at 12:09: Don't wake sleeping dogs.

Just don't react to it.

Yes, as Bluff also says, first wait and see if something comes in writing.

Perhaps no "contract" has been concluded in this sense, as your money has not been debited.
Unfortunately, I can't tell you what the legal situation is, as I'm not a lawyer.
I don't want to judge whether this is morally ok, as we don't know whether Tipico would have paid you out if you had won if you had subsequently paid in the €500 or declared the bet invalid due to a missing deposit.

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Lionking
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Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 01:03 pm CET#6
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Anonymous wrote on November 24, 2023 at 12:44 pm:

Okay. So far I have only received an email in June that the payment failed and I should transfer the money manually to Tipico, prove it with a screenshot and as soon as that was done I can use Sofortüberweisung again. Nothing more has come since then. This means that if you were to take further steps against me, you would most likely first send me a new, more recent request to transfer the money, right?

Yes, of course, you would first receive a reminder with a request for payment and a deadline. If you then paid, the case would be closed!

But let's be honest, you received a letter in June and nothing since then. That's a long time until the end of November.
Presumably there will be nothing more to come.
You'll just have to do without Tipico.

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Anonymus
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24th Nov. 2023, at 01:09 pm CET#7
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Lionking wrote on 24.11.2023 at 13:03:

Yes, of course, there would first be a reminder with a request for payment and a deadline. If you would then pay, the case would be closed!

But let's be honest, a letter came in June and nothing since then. That's a long time until the end of November.
Presumably there will be nothing more to come.
You'll just have to do without Tipico.

Exactly, and the "letter" only came by e-mail and nothing in writing in the mailbox. Let's see what happens next 😂

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Rigomar

Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 01:33 pm CET#8
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Oh man. I did the same thing, but it happened with Betathome. I was able to transfer money with Klarna Sofortüberweisung even though there were no funds in my account. There were also no direct debits or earmarked debits. I have no idea how this could have worked at all.
however, the money was available in the gaming account and I gambled it away in sports betting, i.e. I didn't make a win or pay out any money. I haven't noticed this yet. But it's about 5000€. The whole thing happened on 03.11..
I hope it doesn't go unnoticed. KLARNA at least no longer allows my account number. It says my account is not authorized for this function. What do you think?

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Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 02:26 pm CET#9
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Rigomar wrote on 24.11.2023 at 13:33: Oh man. I did the same thing only it happened to me at Betathome. I was able to transfer money with Klarna Sofortüberweisung even though there were no funds in my account. There were also no direct debits or earmarked debits. I have no idea how this could have worked at all.
however, the money was available in the gaming account and I gambled it away in sports betting, i.e. I didn't make a win or pay out any money. I haven't noticed this yet. But it's about 5000€. The whole thing happened on 03.11..
I hope it doesn't go unnoticed. KLARNA at least no longer allows my account number. It says my account is not authorized for this function. What do you think?

If you make a payment knowing that it is not covered, you have to be very careful! Theoretically, you could be accused of fraud, which almost never happens in practice, but would be justified in the case of an authorized direct debit or general payment with the knowledge that it cannot be paid


With the amount and the fact that it is blocked, it is clear that Klarna has noticed it and since the Provider has a license in Germany, sooner or later the Debt collection will come

@Lionking period until November is nothing at all I have already received a debt collection letter after 2 years and 8 months the amount was of course correspondingly high

Payments that are deducted from the account are always a problem: Returned direct debits automatically result in default. This is a type of self-reminder. A self-reminder exists if the customer announces that payment will be made soon and thus anticipates a request for payment by the creditor.

This is a good way to avoid a further reminder, as the customer has expressly guaranteed payment

This is precisely why we issue a tan or sign the mandate for the direct debit

I would contact them in both cases and pay the debt! A debt collection agency will charge you interest on the costs from the time they are incurred until they are collected and a reminder notice for 5k is not that cheap either

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Rigomar

Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 02:32 pm CET#10
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You're probably right about that.

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Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 02:41 pm CET#11
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Rigomar wrote on 24.11.2023 at 14:32: You're probably right about that.

My Tip is to find out who you owe money to whether it is Klarna or the Provider and then, depending on the situation, make an installment payment 5k in one fell swoop, very few can


But I would definitely leave out the point with "I didn't know there was any money on it but I kept going", it's best to write something about technical problems in the account and losing track

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Anonymus
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24th Nov. 2023, at 02:57 pm CET#12
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Okay, but what about my case? I had enough money in my account. But it was simply not deducted, not even earmarked or anything. Only one email from Tipico so far. What do you think ? Or even if a Debt collection letter comes at some point, how high would the claim be (in my case it was a 500 euro deposit)?

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Lionking
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24th Nov. 2023, at 03:18 pm CET#13
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@ Gamble: 2 years and 8 months? That's awesome and certainly not the norm. When it comes to money, you're usually bombarded with payment reminders, overdue notices, etc., to put it bluntly of course.

@A: Well, they would probably demand the 500 euros plus interest and reminder fees, which would still be manageable, but if it goes to Debt collection, it will suddenly become more expensive, and you can quickly double the original amount if you don't react.
But this is of course speculative, as long as you don't get anything in writing I would wait and see.

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B****3

Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 04:23 pm CET#14
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gamble1 wrote on 24.11.2023 at 14:41:

My Tip find out who you owe money to whether it is now Klarna or the Provider and then, depending on the situation, make an installment payment 5k in one fell swoop, very few can


But I would definitely leave out the point with "I didn't know there was any money in it but I kept going" - it's best to write something about technical problems in the account and losing track

Let the matter rest for now, as long as nothing happens!


Why do you want to wake sleeping dogs?

If you want money, the person will get in touch!
Don't go crazy and offer to pay in installments and good !

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R3hab
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Tipico deposit - what is the threat?

24th Nov. 2023, at 05:53 pm CET#15
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Chill out and drink tea,
personally, I would only take action if Tipico threatened to collect the money, then I would pay it

Tipico is a franchise and you have played online and they are registered in Malta with a license, I don't think they will care, an employee has probably simply checked incorrectly.

I don't even want to know what would have happened if you had won something big

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