Deposit and withdrawal methods: The latest cracker - this time from Guts (Page 3)

Bone wrote on 29/11/2018 at 17:16
As far as I know there have been cases where casinos have intervened when a player has deposited without control, even without a pending withdrawal. The problem is simply that deposits are processed automatically and not manually confirmed by a human. The protection mechanisms are far from mature. Now on the concrete example of Harmony I really do not want to get too close, because I do not know his circumstances: The player describes here of two different casinos with which he has problems and in both he has deposited within a short time several thousand euros? (at least that's how I remember it)

No matter how much was won before, there is obviously at least the suspicion of problematic gambling behavior and the casino should intervene. The way is of course shitty and also the timing. I honestly do not know if the casino may request such a screenshot. If so, they would have to invoke a European money laundering law, but I don't really feel like researching paragraphs at the moment. I think this issue is quite simple: Either they are allowed to do it by law, in which case they are entitled to it, or they are not allowed to do it, in which case they will not get away with it. Maybe they even HAVE to by law and other, in this case even less reputable casinos, do not comply? Pure harassment of players I would not suspect at GUTS first, the group is large, serious and internationally one of the largest players in the casino business. They still have brands outside of Germany, but with Rizk, Guts and Highroller alone, they are already well represented in Germany.

Whether one finds the whole thing good or bad is actually a question of political attitude. In a liberal system it is nobody's business how much money you have in your account. In a social system, gambling is probably a bit different, since a Gambling addiction creates a problem for society as a whole.

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Harmony wrote on 11/29/2018 at 4:46 pm: @Random

Nice to see we agree on this topic for once
You summed it up wonderfully. There are smart people sitting in finance departments and marketing. They are trained for such situations and use every loophole to influence the player so that he may cancel in the end and gamble everything away. And they do this by extortionate means.

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Harmony wrote on 11/29/2018 at 8:50 pm
Not that I think you don't believe me. It's more for the people here who make me out like I'm putting in a hundred grand every day. That's just to get that illusion out of the way. Of course, I have deposited a few thousand euros before. If that was the case, then I had won the money somewhere else because of me. I use Skrill or Neteller (the latter also wanted such a document from me) exclusively for payment in OCs and nothing else. If I win somewhere and it arrives on the account, it will be used when I feel like it again. Who thinks that I do all this from the account, is very wrong. Then it would be clear to me that the suspicion of money laundering could arise



If I could still log in to GUTS, I would show a screen of the transaction exactly. Because before and after the Deposit of 150 Euro nothing followed, except the payout after extortion And will follow there also nothing more but guaranteed.

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Random wrote on 11/29/2018 at 3:54 pm: Yes typical

As always, any action by Online Casinos, no matter how cheeky, is talked up.

It would be something gaaanz other would casinos make such demands if you only deposit.
Such demands come but always only when you request a payout.
If the TE now pays 50,000 and dutifully loses no one comes from the casino and asks about money laundering laws. Which is absolutely moronic anyway
How you can defend something like that is a mystery to me.

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Scamp wrote on 11/29/2018 at 9:21 pm

You haven't quite figured out money laundering and the principle yet, have you?

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You haven't quite figured out the money laundering and principle yet, have you?

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This is to prevent criminals from laundering illegal drug money in Online Casinos and bringing it into the normal economic cycle.

If the TE now deposits 50,000 and dutifully loses, no one from the casino comes along and asks about money laundering laws. Which is absolutely moronic anyway.

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