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Deposit and withdrawal methods: Paysafecard

Topic created on 01st Dec. 2019 | Page: 1 of 6 | Answers: 51 | Views: 14,578
Kiwigulasch
Rookie
Hello, so first of all yes, I used the search function, maybe I'm too stupid or it's too confusing or there's really nothing on the subject...
I just wanted to ask, what should be so great about the Deposit method Paysafecard? So if I understood correctly, this method only works if you buy a card with credit in the store. This can then be redeemed in the desired casino on the account.
Now to the topic, what should be so good about it? Is not that totally much more cumbersome than simply specify a credit card, or if you do not have or want to simply deposit via instant transfer? I do not really understand the sense here, in addition now still comes, how can one let pay out then? They won't just send you a paysave card with the appropriate amount, will they?
So please enlighten me ignorant heathen times, why does this payment method seems to be so popular here? I have already read many forum posts where the authors swear exclusively on this paysavecard variant, why is that? I see so far no advantages, actually only restrictions and disadvantages, but since I have no idea of it so far I would be very happy about hints, advice, experience and tips
Many thanks in advance!

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Cheeseburger
Experienced
Think of it this way.

I Deposit 10x with Sofortüberweisung, lose 9x my money, win 1x something and pay 1x to the account.
That's 11 transactions where the bank may look more closely.

But if I deposit 10x with Paysafecard, I lose again 9x my money, win 1x something and pay 1x to the account.
Are 1 transaction, which is not observed to 99%.

The banks are happy to interfere with gambling, although in 99% of cases it is legal money, which you have earned quite normally.

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Falko
Icon
The Paysafe card can help you to throw less money into the casinos. I find them quite useful buy me one every week in the store and only this budget I gamble away. Online banking I have blocked, because where that was still activated I have deposited significantly more often because it is possible to gamble at any time. If you pay with Paysafekarte, you can pay his wins always by bank transfer to his account can be paid out what also works without logged online banking. Conclusion - I myself only use the Paysafe card to Deposit as the only means of payment and am so well protected from too much money to verdaddeln

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Knochen
Elite
The prepaid system has only advantages for me. For example, if I buy a 50€ Paysafe card, I can Deposit 10€ each in 5 casinos, spread over weeks if I want. I always know exactly how much my budget is, because I paid it beforehand. When I use Neteller, Sofortüberweisung or other, it always seems to me as if my budget is my entire account balance. I don't want that. It's a security measure and a pretty convenient one at that

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MarcT22186
Expert
Bone wrote on 01.12.2019 at 23:56: The prepaid system has only advantages for me. For example, if I buy a 50€ Paysafe card, I can Deposit 10€ each in 5 casinos with it, the whole spread over weeks if I want. I always know exactly how much my budget is, because I paid it beforehand. When I use Neteller, Sofortüberweisung or other, it always seems to me as if my budget is my entire account balance. I don't want that. It's a security measure and a pretty convenient one at that.

You can use wallets like PSC. No one forces you to link your account to Skrill or Neteller. You can also just make 50€ there for example by giropay or traditional bank transfer.
You can even block direct debit completely, but also cancel again, which makes your point, at least if you have a problem with gambling, again better.

I am almost shocked that here is not yet, the point so gladly propagated in the forum, anonymity was called. This is at the latest since AML and AFTA history, even almost reversed. The tracing of PSC payments from name to place of payment, is now easier than the transactions at the bank

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Begbie
Elite
Kiwigulasch wrote on 01.12.2019 at 23:23: Hello, so first of all yes, I used the search function, maybe I'm too stupid or it's too confusing or there's really nothing on the subject...
I just wanted to ask, what should be so great about the Deposit method Paysafecard? So if I understood correctly, this method only works if you buy a card with credit in the store. This can then be redeemed in the desired casino on the account.
Now to the topic, what should be so good about it? Is not that totally much more cumbersome than simply specify a credit card, or if you do not have or want to simply deposit via instant transfer? I do not really understand the sense here, in addition now still comes, how can one let pay out then? They won't just send you a paysave card with the appropriate amount, will they?
So please enlighten me ignorant heathen times, why does this payment method seems to be so popular here? I have already read many forum posts where the authors swear exclusively on this paysavecard variant, why is that? I see so far no advantages, actually only restrictions and disadvantages, but since I have no idea about it so far I would be very happy about hints, advice, experiences and tips
Many thanks in advance!

the advantage is the anonymity
i guess you belong to the generation instagram aka attention whores and you don't know what to do with the term anonymity.
therefore especially for you: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymit%C3%A4t

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MarcT22186
Expert
Begbie wrote on 12-02-2019 07:48 AM
the advantage is anonymity
i guess you belong to the generation instagram aka attention whores and you don't know what to do with the term anonymity.
therefore especially for you: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymit%C3%A4t

It isn't. As paysafe is a financial instrument it is subject to the AFTA regulations and the EU-GWG.
In short, your IP, the recipient (when depositing at the casino you do this to the OC, but your name given there is linked to the deposit) and the device data (such as geotracking) are stored. So you can be picked up directly by the authorities at any time if you have used your smartphone.
If the argument "it could have been anyone else" comes up, it can't - see the terms and conditions

Only cryptos provide you with anonymity

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Stromberg
Legend
I do not use online banking and no wallets. For me, psc is the only option, and for the reasons that Knochen and falko already mentioned, I am very happy with it.

Whether the payments would now be traceable by the authorities, as Marc says, is in normal cases I think not relevant

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Knochen
Elite
MarcT22186 wrote on 12/02/2019 06:18 PM
You can use wallets like PSC. No one forces you to link your account with Skrill or Neteller. You can also just make there 50€ for example by giropay or traditional bank transfer.
You can even block direct debit completely, but also cancel again, which makes your point, at least if you have a problem with gambling, again better.

I am almost shocked that here is not yet, the point so gladly propagated in the forum, anonymity was called. This is at the latest since AML and AFTA history, even almost reversed. The tracing of PSC payments from name to place of payment, is now easier than the transactions at the bank.

Anonymity is also not really given with PaysafeCard. Whether you Deposit your credit card with the casino or not, you have to go naked for Verification anyway. The payout to your bank account is also made by a casino. Do not know why that is more anonymous than Neteller

I now also no longer use PSC exclusively because I have myself quite well under control. But gambling for me simply should not get a "anytime, anywhere, as much as I want" character. That's why I use PSC, because at least I still have to leave the house and walk somewhere

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MarcT22186
Expert
Bone wrote on 02/12/2019 09:58
Anonymity is not really a given even with PaysafeCard. Whether you Deposit your credit card with the casino or not, you have to go naked for Verification anyway. The payout to your bank account is also again from a casino. Do not know why that is more anonymous than Neteller

I now also no longer use PSC exclusively because I have myself quite well under control. But gambling for me simply should not get a "anytime, anywhere, as much as I want" character. That's why I use PSC, because at least I still have to leave the house and walk somewhere.

Which is also completely understandable and if the way works so, then that's absolutely top
My objection was only related to the fact that you can use wallets quite similar and this does not necessarily have to run as an instant payment over the entire balance or can.

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