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15th Oct. 2017, at 01:10 pm CEST#21
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Hey Daniel,
wanted to ask if what has happened in the meantime? buyer protection, etc.. is not all anyway with online goods...is it already to get a reminder and has he contradicted this?
Just read through your post again from the Sunmakermitarbeiter..Well..can unfortunately again only shake the head alone because the casinos are of the opinion without licenses in Germany to offer gambling..and PayPal thinks they would only be service providers.I mean it's no different principle than if you give me money I go with it to the illegal horse racing for you and bet for you.Of course I know that it is illegal, that makes the thing just as little legal...
A buddy of mine had a lot of trouble with PayPal a few months ago because payments were charged back from his account and his PayPal account was in the red for a long time. Then he got an email and mail from a lawyer (KSP Rechtsanwälte) with a demand for payment or threat of legal action.
So it seems that such things are no longer collected via Debt collection but immediately by the lawyer.
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15th Oct. 2017, at 02:55 pm CEST#23
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Hey, it was about gambling debts? Furthermore, KSP and Infoscore are the collection agencies to which the claims of PayPal are assigned.
This has everything to do only what with fear, many normal people shit themselves because they get a letter from the lawyer.der wiederrum but can only go to court according to German law, no more and no less.Habe in my circle of acquaintances someone who has a balance of 1700 euros (since 15.5.17) in the Paypal account.Er has received some requests for payment, but this rejected as Unbegründete claim and that their claim in Germany is not enforceable and we like to see us in court!Now his Paypal account was blocked about 2 weeks ago and Infoscore is still threatening (But still no court order..which you can simply contradict anyway.Whereupon then Infoscore must justify their claim and whether this is legitimate!)That's already over 5 months, so if they really wanted to sue.Why let so much time pass..any normal claim would already be before the court....
Yes was in the red with PayPal. Has always paid via PayPal in casinos. But was not so much coal what he was there in the minus and then paid nicely well-behaved.
I am also considering a PayPal account to make how does that work but with the fees? say I pay 50 € at sunmaker via Paypal then pulls me Paypal a few days later 50 € plus Paypal fees or? and if so how high are the then at 50 €?
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16th Oct. 2017, at 06:26 am CEST#28
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Skitch22 wrote on 16.10.2017 at 00:03: I'm also thinking of making a PayPal account how does that work but with the fees ? say I pay 50€ at sunmaker via Paypal one then pulls me Paypal few days later 50€ off Plus Paypal fees or ? and if so how high are the then at 50 € ?
No they are not. The fees are always paid by the company to which you send the money. You yourself do not pay fees on transactions. The one with the Paypal pulls it in a few days later, works also only if you have already made some transactions with your account. In the beginning this is like a prepaid credit card. You pay with the credit you have on your account
Skitch22 wrote on 16.10.2017 at 00:03: I'm also thinking of making me a PayPal account how does that work but with the fees ? say I pay 50 € at sunmaker via Paypal one then pulls me Paypal few days later 50 € off Plus Paypal fees or ? and if so how high are the then at 50 € ?
No they do not. The fees are always paid by the company to which you send the money. You yourself do not pay fees on transactions. The one with the Paypal pulls it in a few days later, works also only if you have already made some transactions with your account. In the beginning this is like a prepaid credit card. You pay with the credit you have on your account.
so I have to pay practically in the beginning first on my Paypal account ? if I want to pay with it ?
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16th Oct. 2017, at 08:33 am CEST#30
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Skitch22 wrote on 10/16/2017 at 08:20 AM
so I have to Deposit practically at the beginning myself first on my PayPal account ? if I want to pay with it ?
Exactly. This works with dennen fully automatic and has nothing to do with the creditworthiness of a person. If you have done some transactions with the credit, which ideally comes from your bank account, then the system will classify you as positive and you can do transactions by direct debit like most here who have done that
I have also only had an account with them for 8 months and it took me about 3 months to be able to do any transaction by direct debit
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wanted to ask if what has happened in the meantime? buyer protection, etc.. is not all anyway with online goods...is it already to get a reminder and has he contradicted this?
Just read through your post again from the Sunmakermitarbeiter..Well..can unfortunately again only shake the head alone because the casinos are of the opinion without licenses in Germany to offer gambling..and PayPal thinks they would only be service providers.I mean it's no different principle than if you give me money I go with it to the illegal horse racing for you and bet for you.Of course I know that it is illegal, that makes the thing just as little legal...
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So it seems that such things are no longer collected via Debt collection but immediately by the lawyer.
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This has everything to do only what with fear, many normal people shit themselves because they get a letter from the lawyer.der wiederrum but can only go to court according to German law, no more and no less.Habe in my circle of acquaintances someone who has a balance of 1700 euros (since 15.5.17) in the Paypal account.Er has received some requests for payment, but this rejected as Unbegründete claim and that their claim in Germany is not enforceable and we like to see us in court!Now his Paypal account was blocked about 2 weeks ago and Infoscore is still threatening (But still no court order..which you can simply contradict anyway.Whereupon then Infoscore must justify their claim and whether this is legitimate!)That's already over 5 months, so if they really wanted to sue.Why let so much time pass..any normal claim would already be before the court....
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No they are not. The fees are always paid by the company to which you send the money. You yourself do not pay fees on transactions. The one with the Paypal pulls it in a few days later, works also only if you have already made some transactions with your account. In the beginning this is like a prepaid credit card. You pay with the credit you have on your account
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so I have to pay practically in the beginning first on my Paypal account ? if I want to pay with it ?
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Exactly. This works with dennen fully automatic and has nothing to do with the creditworthiness of a person. If you have done some transactions with the credit, which ideally comes from your bank account, then the system will classify you as positive and you can do transactions by direct debit like most here who have done that
I have also only had an account with them for 8 months and it took me about 3 months to be able to do any transaction by direct debit
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