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5th Sep. 2020, at 08:23 pm CEST#53
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Jokerboy wrote on 05/09/2020 at 20:14
Do you know what the problem is? Your problem, that is?
You really think you can convince anyone here that OC (on a gambling site mind you) are banned. Maybe you are just looking for a way to get back the money you gambled away yourself, but so far you haven't been able to do that
I don't need to convince anyone here, because most people know it themselves anyway. You seem to be one of the few or even the only one who doesn't know. You just don't understand the background of the whole thing and don't see through the law. Just because no one has ever refused your 100€ payout and you have always received your money so far, you are convinced that everything must be legal. But it is not, because as soon as you win a larger sum and the OC suddenly does not pay out then you have no legal possibility to sue for the money. YOU can not demand money from someone who has no permission to offer his product in Germany. Just like you can't sue a drug Dealer to get your money back because he sold you bad stuff or something.
Jokerboy wrote on 05/09/2020 at 20:14
Do you know what the problem is? Your problem, that is?
You really think you can convince anyone here that OC (on a gambling site mind you) are banned. Maybe you're just looking for a way to get your own gambled money back, which you haven't managed to do yet
Furthermore, you rarely manage to discuss constructively, which rather makes me want to let you go with your misinformation. Do and believe what you want. The facts speak another language!
Do not really understand your "mind you on a Zockerseite".
Where else but on a gambling site should you discuss things that concern casinos?
And regarding the legality of OC's in Germany:
Why can/could one actually order PayPal to pay back if nothing would be illegal?
In addition to this, one financial giant after the other is leaving the OC industry and thus missing out on heaps of potential coals.
Strange, but are actually all clean, legal transactions...
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5th Sep. 2020, at 11:40 pm CEST#56
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Tribeholz wrote on 05/09/2020 at 23:27
Don't really understand your "well on a gambler site".
Where else but on a gambler's site should you discuss things concerning casinos?
And regarding the legality of OC's in Germany:
Why can/could one actually order PayPal to pay back if nothing would be illegal?
In addition to this, one financial giant after the other is leaving the OC industry and thus missing out on heaps of potential coals.
Strange, but are actually all clean, legal transactions
Under Jokerboy in the board of Paypal or Visa this would not have happened...
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5th Sep. 2020, at 11:58 pm CEST#57
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unicorn wrote on 05.09.2020 at 23:40
This would not have happened under Jokerboy on the board of PayPal or Visa...
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6th Sep. 2020, at 01:53 am CEST#58
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I do not really understand the argumentation with PayPal now. You can reverse any payment with Paypal. Even if I buy something from Amazon. Is Amazon therefore now illegal?
What I do not understand with you is that you seem to justify everything with, it is not legal anyway. Remember the following: Who can gamble, who can also stand up for it. And that you are the spinner, which always booked the money back, we have also understood. You are ruining the fun for the people. There are people who have their gaming behavior under control and do not gamble away house and home, but really just for fun
Your reactions show how you deal with things that don't suit you. Whoever gambles can also lose and thus also write off his money
And again something to the forum: There are a lot of people here who play for fun. Of course there is also an opposite side. This moves but in the vanishingly small part. The rest is pro OC! Here it is not about the bad side of gambling, but winning pictures and videos are shared and new games and casinos are presented
Just go to a site that deals with your greed to get lost again. Maybe a law forum.
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6th Sep. 2020, at 03:50 am CEST#59
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Dude I thought you were out of this topic?
Neither have I ever booked money back, nor is anyone here agitating against OCs. I just put the facts on the table to show the TE what he will get after the chargebacks and that is nothing, because it is illegal in Germany. This fact does not stop me personally from gambling myself, otherwise I would not be here. I, like many others, simply do not care whether it is illegal or not as long as the OCs pay out reliably, because as I have already explained to you via PN, the state will not do anything to enforce the ban, since next year the new State Treaty on Gambling will come anyway, with which this whole gray area is finally abolished
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6th Sep. 2020, at 04:41 am CEST#60
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unicorn wrote on 09/06/2020 at 03:50: dude I thought you were out of this thread?
Neither have I ever posted money back, nor is anyone here rushing against OCs. I just put the facts on the table to show the TE what he will face after the chargebacks and that is nothing, because it is illegal in Germany now. This fact does not stop me personally from gambling myself, otherwise I would not be here. I, like many others, simply do not care whether it is illegal or not as long as the OCs pay out reliably, because as I have already explained to you via PN, the state will not do anything to enforce the ban, since next year the new State Treaty on Gambling will come anyway, with which this whole gray area is finally abolished
I am now also. And I hope the TE is so set that he dutifully pays back everything he has simply stolen from the dear casino!
Jokerboy wrote on 06/09/2020 at 04:41 PM
I am now too. And I hope the TE is set to dutifully pay back everything he just stole from the dear casino!
@jokerboy you don't really grasp much. Your way of dealing with ignorance is more than scary.
In addition, you drift extremely quickly from the topic. This happens to you but rather unconsciously...but does not make it less sad. Quite the opposite.
@unicorn some people is not to help. Nevertheless, respect for your patience. I would have given up jokerboy already after the first answer.
Jokerboy wrote on 06.09.2020 at 01:53: I do not really understand the argument with PayPal now. You can reverse any payment with paypal. Even when I buy something from Amazon. Is Amazon therefore now illegal?
What I do not understand with you is that you seem to justify everything with, it is not legal anyway. Remember the following: Who can gamble, who can also stand up for it. And that you are the spinner, which always booked the money back, we have also understood. You are ruining the fun for the people. There are people who have their gaming behavior under control and do not gamble away house and home, but really just for fun
Your reactions show how you deal with things that don't suit you. Whoever gambles can also lose and thus also write off his money
And again something to the forum: There are a lot of people here who play for fun. Of course there is also an opposite side. This moves but in the vanishingly small part. The rest is pro OC! Here it is not about the bad side of gambling, but winning pictures and videos are shared and new games and casinos are presented
Just go to a site that deals with your greed to get lost again. Maybe a law forum.
Well now you are making a full file of yourself!!!
Comparing Amazon to OC's...all right.
Paypal and co. pulled out because they became vulnerable due to the illegality of OC.
They lost lawsuits because of it and had to refund funds to players.
Whether that was ethically correct or not is a completely different question.
These refunds worked ONLY in connection with payments made to OC - not with money that flowed at Amazon.
Because the OC's are illegal in Germany. Amazon on the other hand is legal
Even if you seem to be fed up - but that's the way it is
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Do you know what the problem is? Your problem, that is?
You really think you can convince anyone here that OC (on a gambling site mind you) are banned. Maybe you are just looking for a way to get back the money you gambled away yourself, but so far you haven't been able to do that
I don't need to convince anyone here, because most people know it themselves anyway. You seem to be one of the few or even the only one who doesn't know. You just don't understand the background of the whole thing and don't see through the law. Just because no one has ever refused your 100€ payout and you have always received your money so far, you are convinced that everything must be legal. But it is not, because as soon as you win a larger sum and the OC suddenly does not pay out then you have no legal possibility to sue for the money. YOU can not demand money from someone who has no permission to offer his product in Germany. Just like you can't sue a drug Dealer to get your money back because he sold you bad stuff or something.
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That sums it all up nicely. With that, I'm out.
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Do not really understand your "mind you on a Zockerseite".
Where else but on a gambling site should you discuss things that concern casinos?
And regarding the legality of OC's in Germany:
Why can/could one actually order PayPal to pay back if nothing would be illegal?
In addition to this, one financial giant after the other is leaving the OC industry and thus missing out on heaps of potential coals.
Strange, but are actually all clean, legal transactions...
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Under Jokerboy in the board of Paypal or Visa this would not have happened...
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What I do not understand with you is that you seem to justify everything with, it is not legal anyway. Remember the following: Who can gamble, who can also stand up for it. And that you are the spinner, which always booked the money back, we have also understood. You are ruining the fun for the people. There are people who have their gaming behavior under control and do not gamble away house and home, but really just for fun
Your reactions show how you deal with things that don't suit you. Whoever gambles can also lose and thus also write off his money
And again something to the forum: There are a lot of people here who play for fun. Of course there is also an opposite side. This moves but in the vanishingly small part. The rest is pro OC! Here it is not about the bad side of gambling, but winning pictures and videos are shared and new games and casinos are presented
Just go to a site that deals with your greed to get lost again. Maybe a law forum.
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Neither have I ever booked money back, nor is anyone here agitating against OCs. I just put the facts on the table to show the TE what he will get after the chargebacks and that is nothing, because it is illegal in Germany. This fact does not stop me personally from gambling myself, otherwise I would not be here. I, like many others, simply do not care whether it is illegal or not as long as the OCs pay out reliably, because as I have already explained to you via PN, the state will not do anything to enforce the ban, since next year the new State Treaty on Gambling will come anyway, with which this whole gray area is finally abolished
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I am now also. And I hope the TE is so set that he dutifully pays back everything he has simply stolen from the dear casino!
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@jokerboy you don't really grasp much. Your way of dealing with ignorance is more than scary.
In addition, you drift extremely quickly from the topic. This happens to you but rather unconsciously...but does not make it less sad. Quite the opposite.
@unicorn some people is not to help. Nevertheless, respect for your patience. I would have given up jokerboy already after the first answer.
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Well now you are making a full file of yourself!!!
Comparing Amazon to OC's...all right.
Paypal and co. pulled out because they became vulnerable due to the illegality of OC.
They lost lawsuits because of it and had to refund funds to players.
Whether that was ethically correct or not is a completely different question.
These refunds worked ONLY in connection with payments made to OC - not with money that flowed at Amazon.
Because the OC's are illegal in Germany. Amazon on the other hand is legal
Even if you seem to be fed up - but that's the way it is
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