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5th Sep. 2020, at 04:58 pm CEST#43
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Online casinos outside SH are illegal, that's a fact. But where there is no plaintiff, there is no judge
As I said before, it is not illegal to play there. You can play there as much as you want and won't get any charges, what for? playing there is not a crime. As long as the OCs pay out, everything is fine and dandy
The only question here is: What if a casino refuses to pay out? From a legal point of view, you have no claim to the win, i.e. you cannot sue for a win if an OC that is not licensed in Germany refuses to pay out. On the other hand, the OCs cannot sue for reversed debits either. Of course, you will not have come into contact with something like this, and I don't wish you to. But if it happens, then you're on your own
It's different with OC in SH, where you can actually sue if you don't get your money.
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How is it possible to pay by Sofortüberweisung without the money immediately from a checking account? Sofortüberweisung checks whether the account is covered and if this is not the case, then the transfer is denied.
In addition, the money is immediately debited from the current account - it is a normal SEPA transfer and not a direct debit?
The only providers I know that offer direct debits are Lottohelden.de and Lottoland.com - both are very accommodating when a direct debit is cancelled. Most of the time you can arrange a repayment date with them PLUS you get the return debit fee proportionally or completely credited back to your checking account if you ask them. (The fee is waived as soon as the repayment amount has been received in full!)
gamble1 wrote on 05.09.2020 at 17:28: Which of course may be that the bank has stopped the transfer to Klarna/immediately
Does not really make sense because immediately can be anything but if there are several identical bookings could also assume an error
But then that would have to be stopped immediately and the payment should have failed.
The amount goes out only as a normal transfer...
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5th Sep. 2020, at 07:31 pm CEST#47
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Yes, since there are people running around here who really don't have a clue, we better get back to the topic!
What if Sofort/Klarna has forwarded the money to the casino and now not the casino, but Sofort GmbH asks for payment? Then it is the same anyway, whether legal or illegal. And they can also commission an IC...
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5th Sep. 2020, at 07:42 pm CEST#48
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Jokerboy wrote on 05.09.2020 at 19:31: Yeah, since there are people running around here who really don't have a clue, we better get back on topic!
Jokerboy, the boy who has been gambling in OC for years and has never been reported has of course the plan of how it goes down legally. So everything that someone who has the 2nd state exam behind him writes is garbage of course. Jokerboys word is law
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5th Sep. 2020, at 07:56 pm CEST#49
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unicorn wrote on 05.09.2020 at 19:42
Jokerboy, the boy who has been gambling in OC for years and has never been reported has of course the plan how it goes legally. So anything written by someone who has had their 2nd state exam is garbage of course. Jokerboy's word is law
2. State exam?
Can you maybe help me? I run a coffeeshop in the Netherlands and now wanted to make a big advertisement for my online store. Also in Germany. For this I have already won Helene Fischer and would like to secure me now only again legally. I would then open two websites one NL and one COM and I would of course only point out in the advertising that it is only allowed to buy my stuff in the Netherlands
Do you think I would have success with it?
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5th Sep. 2020, at 08:02 pm CEST#50
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Jokerboy wrote on 09/05/2020 at 7:56 pm
2. State exam?
Can you maybe help me with this? I run a coffeeshop in the Netherlands and now wanted to advertise my online store big time. Also in Germany. For this I have already won Helene Fischer and would like to secure me now only again legally. I would then open two websites one NL and one COM and I would of course only point out in the advertising that it is only allowed to buy my stuff in the Netherlands
Do you think I would have success with it?
Read my contribution to the movement of goods, or freedom of services of European law again carefully, then you also have the answer to your question
In principle, you can also look at the DocMorris case, where it is about an Internet pharmacy that is operated from the Netherlands
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5th Sep. 2020, at 08:14 pm CEST#51
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unicorn wrote on 05.09.2020 at 20:02
Read my post on the free movement of goods, or freedom to provide services of European law again carefully, then you also have the answer to your question
In principle, you can also look at the DocMorris case, where it is about an Internet pharmacy operated from the Netherlands
Do you know what the problem is? Your problem?
You really think you can convince anyone here that OC (on a gambling site, mind you) is forbidden. Maybe you're just looking for a way to get your own gambled money back, which you haven't managed to do yet
Furthermore, you rarely manage to discuss constructively, which rather makes me want to let you go with your misinformation. Do and believe what you want. The facts speak another language!
Had something like that with bwin and so'n online bank that forever ago 900 I deposited then and in the end they have me right ge**** had to pay back double
Because I thought f**k the 😂 but I would have accepted the Debt collection deal who all good
But the plaintiff was just not a casino but a
Financial company was something like skirll and co
But I think that each casino handles something different the one casino Bums you the other juckts not
If they want something pay it and feddich if nothing comes f**k it ✌🏽
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As I said before, it is not illegal to play there. You can play there as much as you want and won't get any charges, what for? playing there is not a crime. As long as the OCs pay out, everything is fine and dandy
The only question here is: What if a casino refuses to pay out? From a legal point of view, you have no claim to the win, i.e. you cannot sue for a win if an OC that is not licensed in Germany refuses to pay out. On the other hand, the OCs cannot sue for reversed debits either. Of course, you will not have come into contact with something like this, and I don't wish you to. But if it happens, then you're on your own
It's different with OC in SH, where you can actually sue if you don't get your money.
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How is it possible to pay by Sofortüberweisung without the money immediately from a checking account? Sofortüberweisung checks whether the account is covered and if this is not the case, then the transfer is denied.
In addition, the money is immediately debited from the current account - it is a normal SEPA transfer and not a direct debit?
The only providers I know that offer direct debits are Lottohelden.de and Lottoland.com - both are very accommodating when a direct debit is cancelled. Most of the time you can arrange a repayment date with them PLUS you get the return debit fee proportionally or completely credited back to your checking account if you ask them. (The fee is waived as soon as the repayment amount has been received in full!)
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Does not really make sense because immediately can be anything but if there are several identical bookings could also assume an error
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But then that would have to be stopped immediately and the payment should have failed.
The amount goes out only as a normal transfer...
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What if Sofort/Klarna has forwarded the money to the casino and now not the casino, but Sofort GmbH asks for payment? Then it is the same anyway, whether legal or illegal. And they can also commission an IC...
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Jokerboy, the boy who has been gambling in OC for years and has never been reported has of course the plan of how it goes down legally. So everything that someone who has the 2nd state exam behind him writes is garbage of course. Jokerboys word is law
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2. State exam?
Can you maybe help me? I run a coffeeshop in the Netherlands and now wanted to make a big advertisement for my online store. Also in Germany. For this I have already won Helene Fischer and would like to secure me now only again legally. I would then open two websites one NL and one COM and I would of course only point out in the advertising that it is only allowed to buy my stuff in the Netherlands
Do you think I would have success with it?
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Read my contribution to the movement of goods, or freedom of services of European law again carefully, then you also have the answer to your question
In principle, you can also look at the DocMorris case, where it is about an Internet pharmacy that is operated from the Netherlands
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Do you know what the problem is? Your problem?
You really think you can convince anyone here that OC (on a gambling site, mind you) is forbidden. Maybe you're just looking for a way to get your own gambled money back, which you haven't managed to do yet
Furthermore, you rarely manage to discuss constructively, which rather makes me want to let you go with your misinformation. Do and believe what you want. The facts speak another language!
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Because I thought f**k the 😂 but I would have accepted the Debt collection deal who all good
But the plaintiff was just not a casino but a
Financial company was something like skirll and co
But I think that each casino handles something different the one casino Bums you the other juckts not
If they want something pay it and feddich if nothing comes f**k it ✌🏽
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