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Deposit and withdrawal methods: ING Diba Netteller information money laundering (Page 5)

Topic created on 12th Oct. 2020 | Page: 5 of 7 | Answers: 69 | Views: 19,321
Seb0402
Visitor
Krabbenburger wrote on 05/31/2022 at 11:44 AM
I see . Were the 12K withdrawals from Neteller also rather smaller amounts that add up to 12k or were there only a few large withdrawals ?
If it were small triggers a money laundering suspicion at the bank if constantly many small amounts go on Neteller and then again many small amounts come back.
I would in your place as I said only tell the bank that I have made sports betting without sending any receipts.
You can tell the bank that you no longer have access to your Neteller history because you have closed your account.
Maybe you have also played at a Provider with a sports betting license from Germany? ( bwin, tipico etc .)
There you could send a withdrawal slip.
Maybe you can clarify this matter with the bank. Basically, you should always give as little as possible info the bank and as much as necessary .

Sports betting unfortunately I can not prove anything
Yes were always 1000s amounts...well no idea I just hope it happens nothing worse will try to achieve a mutual account closure me a new giro account with another bank open and leave everything in the future makes only headaches this topic

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Seb0402
Visitor
Update from just now

My bank advisor has called and informed me that the proof of origin of the 12k payment is provided by my Deposit receipts in the amount of 15k
Account will not be terminated, but for future deposits, except salary, there may be a request for proof from time to time

Say I am under observation

In addition, I was called as a friendly note that possibly also my credit card Provider can contact me about this enormous sums...

So best to leave everything in the future

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Seb0402
Visitor
Once again gone smoothly I hope

But still I find it all pretty sad...as if there are no other priorities in this world than when a private person harms himself financially etc...others spend tens of thousands on other hobbies there is everything in order

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Krabbenburger
Experienced
Hi Seb
I'm glad for you that the bank has accepted your credit card receipts.
It is also very positive to evaluate that the bank has completed so uncomplicated.

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Sebi123
Amateur
This means that the bank wanted a proof of origin of the 12000 Euros that were transferred from Neteller to the bank account and you provided it by saying that it was an online casino win and that was the end of the matter for the bank and you could keep your account with the bank.

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Seb0402
Visitor
Sebi123 wrote on 01.06.2022 at 17:23: That is now summarized again the bank wanted a proof of origin of the 12000 euros that were transferred from Neteller to the bank account and you have provided in which you said it was an online casino win and so the matter was settled for the bank and you could keep your account with the bank.


No it must have absolutely nothing to do with OC otherwise it would have come to the termination and maybe even more.... I have simply proved that I also deposited 12000 € from my Visa to my Neteller account and thised money then quasi further transferred to the Sparkasse so as "intermediate account" used

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o****I

Seb0402 wrote on 03.06.2022 at 07:48
No it must have absolutely nothing to do with OC otherwise it would have come to the notice and perhaps even more....I have einfavh proven that I also 12000€ from my Visa deposited on my Neteller account and thised money then quasi further to the Sparkasse transferred so as "intermediate account" used

And what sense did that make? Has not the bank asked why you do not just directly

transferred it directly? It should be clear to everyone that something should be disguised here, right?

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Seb0402
Visitor
omenII wrote on 03.06.2022 at 07:55

And what sense did that make? Didn't the bank ask why you didn't just do it directly

transferred it? It should be clear to everyone that something is to be disguised here, right?

Yes, that's why I was so afraid
Believe the bank knows exactly but has itself a bit of complicity because all transactions were allowed months ago I have everything run directly through the account

But I said that I can not transfer anything directly from my visa to my account unless I would be there in credit which is not the case

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o****I

Seb0402 wrote on 05.06.2022 at 11:19 am
Yes that's why I was so afraid
Believe the bank knows it exactly but has itself a little complicit because all transactions were approved months ago I have everything directly run through the account

But I said that I can not transfer anything directly from my visa to my account unless I would be there in credit, which is not the case

Yes, but I think you don't have to worry about that. The banks know what is going on.

If you transfer money to an e-wallet or another bank account, they already know.

In normal life, you don't need anything like that. You pay via your bank, PayPal or credit card.
I think anyone who does not do this is suspicious. The bank is not stupid. They all have thousands of
Customers, which in turn include enough gamblers. And they know exactly how the gamblers try to hide their money,
to hide their money. In my eyes, you can't fool banks. Just like you can't fool the tax office
the tax office. That may work in individual cases, but it is not the normal case.

They know exactly that through certain channels with high probability crooked things are made.
The bank probably does not care, if the declaration is plausible, then you have fulfilled your duty and justified it
justified it. The bank can then also prove this in case of inquiries, and is off the hook, and gives peace.
Unless you have an exemplary bank clerk, who has bitten off more than he can chew.

If the bank is not sure, they will pass it on. That's why I think it's important to cooperate with the bank.
It is better to clarify things with the bank than with the authorities. BaFin has proven several times that it imposes fines in the millions of euros
if the bank does not comply with its duty to inquire in cases of suspected illicit funds.

Direct termination will not help either, as this will only increase the suspicion of black money. Nothing makes you more suspicious
Committing a burglary and then moving won't do any good either......

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Hungeligge
It happened to me so similar, have a PKonto at the Sparkasse, am thereby never in the minus and earn quite tidy.Now I had some luck last month: 1200, - at Luxury, 2500, - at sunmaker and 6000, - at Lottoland won....everything was transferred to my account.Now I wanted to make transfers online, everything on hold.Telefonat with the Sparkasse revealed that they had blocked my account, because of wins from non-licensed casinos. I had to promise not to Deposit there again and my account was unblocked. Remains me yes only ewallets....

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