Bank asks about the origin of the money

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6th Sep. 2018, at 05:21 pm CEST#11

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but that would only be the case at your bank. you can get loans online.
you only need a clean account statement for 4 weeks.

shares and the whole shebang are nothing more than gambling.

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6th Sep. 2018, at 06:02 pm CEST#12

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stkrie wrote on 06.09.2018 at 17:21: but that would only be the case with the house bank. loans you get online thrown behind.
for that you only need 4 weeks a clean bank statement.

also shares and all that stuff is nothing but gambling.

That's all well and good, but I honestly don't want to have the reputation at my bank that I gamble online

It's always stupid for subsequent discussions with the consultant, whether it's for a home loan or something similar.

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6th Sep. 2018, at 06:55 pm CEST#13

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Don't you think they already know that? The shifting of money back and forth,
especially credit cards, Neteller and Co.
They are not stupid either......

I got that at the time from a clerk directly on the head to said,
that I gamble.

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6th Sep. 2018, at 07:36 pm CEST#14

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Elloskimmos wrote on 06/09/2018 at 18:02

That's all well and good, nevertheless I honestly don't want to have a reputation with my house bank for gambling online

Is yes also always stupid for following conversations with the consultant, whether it is for a home loan or the like.

Whether you gamble or not does not interest the bank.
Unless you are constantly in the minus and they see that you gamble beyond your means.
As long as the bank has the impression that you can still manage well and are liquid, they do not care.

Therefore, it would be best to simply tell the truth.

Gambling winnings are tax free.

But honestly. I would tell them that if they snoop too much you will just change the bank. I mean, you are a free man. Ask the bank where they get their money from. It's none of your business, is it?
Besides, they can determine where the money comes from and I don't think you are the only one who will gamble online. From therefore actually ne pretty stupid question of your bank, they are also not on the noodle soup therefore swam and know exactly where the money comes from.

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6th Sep. 2018, at 08:10 pm CEST#15

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I think when they inquire with you, they have a request from the IRS.
And of course they want to tax everything from the receipts. Sales, income tax, etc.

Of course, gambling is tax-free, but online gambling is prohibited in DE. They will not accept that then.

In any case, I would refuse any information for the time being.

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6th Sep. 2018, at 09:45 pm CEST#16

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I don't think this has anything to do with tax evasion, and likewise I don't think your credit rating will be affected if you declare the receipts as gambling winnings. But if you want to be absolutely sure not to attract attention in one direction (taxes) or the other (KreWü), then I would recommend you to have a look at EStG §3 - steuerfreie Einnahmen . There you will find a very long list of paragraphs (including gambling winnings), which could inspire you to a suitable answer for your bank "advisor"...

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Bank asks about the origin of the money

6th Sep. 2018, at 09:48 pm CEST#17

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Mombasa wrote on 09/06/2018 at 8:10 pm: I think when they inquire with you, they have a request from the IRS.
And of course they want to tax everything from the receipts. Sales, income tax, etc.

Of course, gambling is tax-free, but online gambling is prohibited in DE. They will not accept that then.

In any case, I would refuse any information for the time being.

You always spread panic. I have won at sunnyplayer and other OCs (year 2015) around 25,000€ and the turnover of my private account went up and down constantly. Deposited, paid out, etc.

They also called me at that time and asked how the turnovers come about. I answered sports betting and the bank advisor then just said, "All right, we just wanted to make sure that you don't use the private account for business income, it looked that way to us. Have a nice day." And that was it ...

So far, only one player has been convicted by a Munich district court. In the second instance, however, he was then acquitted and the almost 5-digit or 5-digit(?) wins were returned. Since then there have been no more convictions.

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6th Sep. 2018, at 09:49 pm CEST#18

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Mombasa wrote on 09/06/2018 at 8:10 pm: I think when they inquire with you, they have a request from the IRS.
And of course they want to tax everything from the receipts. Sales, income tax, etc.

Of course, gambling is tax-free, but online gambling is prohibited in DE. They will not accept that then.

In any case, I would refuse any information for the time being.

Gambling is not prohibited.

Always these untrue statements.

Malta is an EU country and EU law takes precedence over national law.
If it was forbidden we all could not play.

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6th Sep. 2018, at 10:17 pm CEST#19

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If it is not forbidden, why can you charge back money without consequences?
Apart from being blocked by the financial service provider.
Is it because it is allowed?

Even if it is correct that EU law breaks national law, as long as it is
it is forbidden in Germany, each individual decision before the ECJ
would have to be taken to the ECJ

And as long as no Player protection and youth protection is guaranteed in Germany,
germany is still in the right.
The protection of the EU citizen still takes precedence over the EU-wide establishment obligation/guarantee.

And I wish you a lot of fun when suing!

You can play, because Germany does not want to fight with the ECJ,
because then they will be reprimanded again. But this has nothing to do with permission.
Rather with tolerate...

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6th Sep. 2018, at 11:57 pm CEST#20

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stkrie wrote on 06/09/2018 at 22:17: If it's not forbidden, why can you charge back money without consequences?
Other than being blocked by the financial service provider.
Is it because it is allowed?

Even if, correctly, EU law breaks national law, as long as
it is forbidden in Germany, each individual decision before the ECJ
would have to be taken to the ECJ

And as long as no Player protection and youth protection is guaranteed in Germany,
germany is still in the right.
The protection of the EU citizen still takes precedence over the EU-wide establishment obligation/guarantee.

And I wish you a lot of fun when suing!

You can play, because Germany does not want to fight with the ECJ,
because then they will be reprimanded again. But this has nothing to do with permission.
Rather with tolerate...

Yes, but still it is not illegal as claimed above.

And if something is not illegal by definition then the only logical thing is that it is legal. There is no lobby, no consumer protection and no jurisdiction for it in Germany - that distinguishes it from a state decree of law and a regulation of the market. This is called a gray zone.
But a gray zone is not illegal, it is just not defined and regulated by law.
Therefore, the claim that it is illegal is simply wrong.
And therefore you have nothing to fear if you tell the bank you have the money from gambling wins.

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