4500€ win at Stake - What is the best way to proceed?
26th Mar. 2025, at 09:17 pm CET#31
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Hi,
I have also won at stake and paid out at bitpanda,
However, each time I am deducted 27.5% tax from bitpanda ..
I am asked if I can declare where the crypto comes from, if not the maximum tax rate is deducted ....
I have never actually stated that it comes from stake...so we are now talking about small profits of less than 500€ but at 4500€ 27.5% that is already a lot of money that is given to the tax authorities..
4500€ win at Stake - What is the best way to proceed?
26th Mar. 2025, at 10:17 pm CET#32
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sigi36 wrote on 26.03.2025 at 21:17: Hi,
I have also won at stake and paid out at bitpanda,
However, each time 27.5% tax is deducted from bitpanda ..
I am asked if I can declare where the crypto comes from, if not the maximum tax rate is deducted ....
I have never actually stated that it comes from stake...so we are now talking about small profits of less than 500€ but at 4500€ 27.5% that is already a lot of money that is given to the tax authorities..
Since when has that been the case? Switch to the stock market, there are enough.
I have also won at stake and paid out at bitpanda,
However, each time 27.5% tax is deducted from bitpanda ..
I am asked if I can declare where the crypto comes from, if not the maximum tax rate is deducted ....
I have never actually stated that it comes from stake...so we are now talking about small profits of less than 500€ but at 4500€ 27.5% that is already a lot of money that is given to the tax authorities..
At first I wanted to write nothing about it, but now I can't stop commenting on this procedure. I wanted to go into more detail, but I'll keep it short now, because reading this again makes me sick to my stomach.
My recommendation:
1. Look for other providers like Bitpanda and Coinbase. As Frapi has already written, there are plenty of other exchanges.
2. Don't pay out any wins from illegal stalls on Bitpanda. This only raises unnecessary questions.
3. Get a wallet like Exodus and send the cryptos from the casino to your personal Exodus wallet and never directly from the casino to an exchange etc.
4500€ win at Stake - What is the best way to proceed?
27th Mar. 2025, at 11:09 am CET#35
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Hi
I don't want to buy vouchers with the money I just want to have the money in my account nothing more, I won over € 8,000 at pokerstars 2 years ago and pressed payout the next day the money was in my account without the bank having any problems or asking... Whether this is still so easy today is questionable... and that with stake yes....at bitpanda I will not pay out anymore, does anyone know what Revolut looks like with crypto and taxes?
4500€ win at Stake - What is the best way to proceed?
28th Mar. 2025, at 05:07 pm CET#36
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sigi36 wrote on 27.03.2025 at 11:09 am: Hi
I don't want to buy vouchers with the money I just want to have the money in my account nothing more, 2 years ago I won over 8.000 € at pokerstars and pressed payout the next day the money was in my account without the bank having any problems or asking... Whether this is still so easy today is questionable... and that with stake yes....at bitpanda I will not pay out anymore, does anyone know what Revolut looks like with crypto and taxes?
Pokerstars also has a license, so the bank won't cause any problems.
4500€ win at Stake - What is the best way to proceed?
29th Mar. 2025, at 01:14 am CET#37
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sigi36 wrote on 27.03.2025 at 11:09 am: Hi
I don't want to buy vouchers with the money I just want to have the money in my account nothing more, 2 years ago I won over 8.000 € at pokerstars and pressed payout the next day the money was in my account without the bank making problems or asking... Whether this is still so easy today is questionable... and that with stake yes....at bitpanda I will not pay out anymore, does anyone know what Revolut looks like with crypto and taxes?
Yes, 2 or 3 years ago all this was still possible because online gambling had no or hardly any laws regulating it. But now it is regulated by law. There's a good chance you'll get into trouble.
Banks, financial service providers, crypto exchanges, e-wallet providers, casinos and everyone else who has anything to do with finance legally must sign the international AML CTFAct (anti money laundering and countering terrorism financing). This commits them to do everything possible to prevent money laundering and to disclose transactions if required by the authorities or the law. In Germany, the banks and authorities have been keeping a close eye on online banking since the wirecard scandal broke
4500€ win at Stake - What is the best way to proceed?
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I have also won at stake and paid out at bitpanda,
However, each time I am deducted 27.5% tax from bitpanda ..
I am asked if I can declare where the crypto comes from, if not the maximum tax rate is deducted ....
I have never actually stated that it comes from stake...so we are now talking about small profits of less than 500€ but at 4500€ 27.5% that is already a lot of money that is given to the tax authorities..
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Since when has that been the case? Switch to the stock market, there are enough.
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At first I wanted to write nothing about it, but now I can't stop commenting on this procedure. I wanted to go into more detail, but I'll keep it short now, because reading this again makes me sick to my stomach.
My recommendation:
1. Look for other providers like Bitpanda and Coinbase. As Frapi has already written, there are plenty of other exchanges.
2. Don't pay out any wins from illegal stalls on Bitpanda. This only raises unnecessary questions.
3. Get a wallet like Exodus and send the cryptos from the casino to your personal Exodus wallet and never directly from the casino to an exchange etc.
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if you want to go shopping with the money, it's also worth taking a look at Bitrefill.com
Simply buy vouchers with the money and you're good to go
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I don't want to buy vouchers with the money I just want to have the money in my account nothing more, I won over € 8,000 at pokerstars 2 years ago and pressed payout the next day the money was in my account without the bank having any problems or asking... Whether this is still so easy today is questionable... and that with stake yes....at bitpanda I will not pay out anymore, does anyone know what Revolut looks like with crypto and taxes?
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Pokerstars also has a license, so the bank won't cause any problems.
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Yes, 2 or 3 years ago all this was still possible because online gambling had no or hardly any laws regulating it. But now it is regulated by law. There's a good chance you'll get into trouble.
Banks, financial service providers, crypto exchanges, e-wallet providers, casinos and everyone else who has anything to do with finance legally must sign the international AML CTFAct (anti money laundering and countering terrorism financing). This commits them to do everything possible to prevent money laundering and to disclose transactions if required by the authorities or the law. In Germany, the banks and authorities have been keeping a close eye on online banking since the wirecard scandal broke
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