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Public complaints: Rizk Casino - have blocked me. (Page 7)

Topic created on 17th Aug. 2018 | Page: 7 of 7 | Answers: 69 | Views: 16,323
Anonym
Random wrote on 08/20/2018 at 2:11 PM
I've been in the industry for 15 years, have a little more idea than someone standing behind the counter bringing people an iced tea. 😊

Then you say it yourself anyway that everything is half bad, then do not make it sound like you are in mortal danger every day.

In principle, I think that we are not so far from each other in terms of opinions. I don't really believe that you are in the gambling business. I would rather classify you as a "law enforcement officer" who would like to give the operators one in front of the suitcase

In your statement with the iced tea, you directly and frontally devalue the staff in the gambling house. You had done that a few times before.
asino support staff - did they not make it at MC Donalds?

Then please don't expect your counterpart to court you and treat you with respect.

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s****e
Don't believe him anyway. I don't think an arcade operator has time to hang around here that often.
In addition, why an arcade operator should be active in such a forum.
I think that such an arcade makes enough work.
To tell everyone what a hard life the poor arcade operators have?
I think they have better things to do.

Probably really a service person or something
If at all...

P.S. Your extract with the won money says nothing.
In addition, you have clarified everything between a beer with the one-time sales.

I don't believe you either. a man of profession, and then something like this, no no......

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Anonym
Harmony wrote on 08/20/2018 at 3:09 PM
In principle, I don't think we're that far apart in terms of opinions on this. As for you being in the gambling business, I don't quite buy it. I would rather classify you as a "law enforcer" who would like to give the operators one in front of the suitcase

In your statement with the iced tea, you directly and frontally devalue the staff in the gambling house. You had done that a few times before.
asino support staff - did they not make it at MC Donalds?

Then please don't expect your counterpart to court you and treat you with respect.

So you were the one who lacked respect.

In my first answer I answered you quite normally, you also in many things right given, just noted that I think you have the situations somewhat too dramatically represented. No more and no less.
And the examples with the waitress in the restaurant was not related to you but only an example related to online casino supports.

I also know the situations that you describe, but as an insider you also know how to assess such situations and these are rarely really threatening or dangerous but rather annoying and everyday.
I agree with you that players complain a lot and like to transfer the blame to the staff.
But you are not there every day in mortal danger. 😉

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Anonym
Harmony wrote on 20/08/2018 at 13:03: As I said before, I do not want to say anything more on the subject, because everything has been said from my side. I also don't need to deliver evidence to someone who has no idea about the industry and doesn't have a rudimentary idea of what you have to listen to from the "mob" on a daily basis. Maybe this is not so your gambling halls in Hintertupfingen, but open for example one in the focal point of Hannover. I don't need to look for another job, because the players finance my standard of living all by themselves I'm also not worried that something will happen to me at some point. Am quite well positioned

But now really to the end: I let everyone his opinion. That's exactly how I keep mine. You can pull this with pleasure in the ridiculous with music band and invitation in the restaurant, no problem. However, I am sure that everyone has recognized himself at least once in my text.

A****m

As a rule, I have an excerpt of all chats sent to me by mail. Should I still find this, I attach it here without comment.

Sorry I could not recognize myself in your text, the so great arcade operators and supporters I could not recognize either. Why do some casinos manage to have halfway decent staff and others do not? Is the mob there about friendlier and more educated or has the casino operator really thought about customer service?

Your payout picture...yes what should it say at all? Doesn't that contradict your argument that win or loss should not play a role in the evaluation? And all the requirements were made because before that there was even more cheating - to want to protect yourself now with "look what we have to do, you can't even imagine" is very hypocritical. My support chats are also not consistently negative, but a large part is filled with copy & paste - because the casino operator wants to save money in such an important place.

I can't for the life of me approve of customers having to beg support to make sure the services offered work properly. No one says that you have no stress or conditions, but I will not let your one-sided representation of "mob" and "friendly casino staff / casino operator" stand so - because this does not apply in reality at present. There are enough players who play quietly every day in the casino, online and offline, and do not need any special treatment. Many are also friendly to the, partly unmotivated employees, but because now a few percent are leaning up and shouting around you can not say that all are "simple-minded". You are trying to protect yourself and your industry while badmouthing all the rest - but I try to consider both sides:

- Temporarily/permanently ban customers who are abusive or aggressive from the casino after the last transaction has been processed
- Employees who are constantly unmotivated -> sort them out or train them further

Just as you have had a bad experience with desperate players, many people seeking help have had a negative experience with support. Not every problem can be solved by nice words at the support, often you have to - if possible report to an authority or turn on official sites like gamblejoe and askgambler. If the casinos want it to be problem-free then there are some that make it, if not then they try to put as many obstacles in the way of the player as possible. In an arcade, as far as I know, there are no bonus rules like "35x wagering" or long payout delay, so a lot of the problems are already gone - that you then get the bunch of "I've gambled it all away, you're just cheating me" is clear. Otherwise, there are not many reasons why you need help from employees:

- Vending machine is broken
- Change money
- Crying because you made a loss
- Buy a drink

Some talk amicably with the staff, I have also had mostly good experience with arcade staff and also talked to some. It was very pleasant, but online I have to say the relationship is much worse - because they check off a list in the call center and if you do not agree that there must be room for improvement, then I do not know what to do...

/Addendum: By the way, in the thread you linked later (https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/casino-support-mitarbeiter-haben-sie-es-bei-mc-donalds-nicht-geschafft-20053/#p20053), the supporters are also taken to task by the "mob"..., but that doesn't fit into the world view...

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Anonym
Ankor wrote on 20/08/2018 at 15:50
Sorry I couldn't recognize myself in your text, I couldn't recognize the so great casino operators and supporters either. Why do some casinos manage to put a halfway decent staff and others do not? Is the mob there about friendlier and more educated or has the casino operator really thought about customer service?

Your payout picture...yes what should it say at all? Doesn't that contradict your argument that win or loss should not play a role in the evaluation? And all the requirements were made because before that there was even more cheating - to want to protect yourself now with "look what we have to do, you can't even imagine" is very hypocritical. My support chats are also not consistently negative, but a large part is filled with copy & paste - because the casino operator wants to save money in such an important place.

I can't for the life of me approve of customers having to beg support to make sure the services offered work properly. No one says that you have no stress or conditions, but I will not let your one-sided representation of "mob" and "friendly casino staff / casino operator" stand so - because this does not apply in reality at present. There are enough players who play quietly every day in the casino, online and offline, and do not need any special treatment. Many are also friendly to the, sometimes unmotivated employees, but because now a few percent are leaning up and shouting around you can not say that all are "simple-minded". You are trying to protect yourself and your industry while badmouthing all the rest - but I try to consider both sides:

- Temporarily/permanently ban customers who are abusive or aggressive from the casino after the last transaction has been processed
- Employees who are constantly unmotivated -> sort them out or train them further

Just as you have had a bad experience with desperate players, many people seeking help have had a negative experience with support. Not every problem can be solved by nice words at the support, often you have to - if possible report to an authority or turn on official sites like gamblejoe and askgambler. If the casinos want it to be problem-free then there are some that make it, if not then they try to put as many obstacles in the way of the player as possible. In an arcade, as far as I know, there are no bonus rules like "35x wagering" or long payout delay, so a lot of the problems are already gone - that you then get the bunch of "I've gambled it all away, you're just cheating me" is clear. Otherwise, there are not many reasons why you need help from employees:

- Vending machine is broken
- Change money
- Crying because you made a loss
- Buy a drink

Some talk amicably with the staff, I have also had mostly good experience with arcade staff and also talked to some. It was very pleasant, but online I have to say the relationship is much worse - because they check off a list in the call center and if you do not agree that there must be room for improvement, then I do not know what to do...

/Addendum: By the way, in the thread you linked later (https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/casino-support-mitarbeiter-haben-sie-es-bei-mc-donalds-nicht-geschafft-20053/#p20053), the supporters are also taken to task by the "mob"...but that doesn't fit into the world view...

If my answer to this is important to you, just write to me privately, because I will not say anything more about the topic itself here. At most a few personal hostility, but on the subject no more

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Anonym
No idea what you do with the support staff. I play for 2 years in various Online Casinos and never had a negative experience
I can understand Harmony. In our Spielos I have also often experienced that people who have just spent everything let out their frustration on the staff or the machine.
I myself have often played over my limits and lost a lot but for that can yes the game operator or even the employee nothing to... Is own stupidity or gambling addiction. But then to be mobbed and threatened as an employee by so few mullahs is not at all... No wonder that he then calls these people a mob. Is also so.

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s****e
When I work in security, I have to expect that people will vent frustration on me.
I should actually know that beforehand. Who thinks that today he still gets politeness and respect
has slept the last 10 years, or is not very smart!

It is the same with the support. He is, as Random already said, the only intersection between
Player and casino.

It should not be that people misbehave, nevertheless tells one nevertheless alone already
common sense tells you that people who have just lost €3000 are not in the best of moods.
And it doesn't matter if the support staff can do something about it or not. The frustration
is vented on the next person who is available. That's just normal psychology.

Whoever thinks, I'll just do a job as a support employee, and everything will be peace and joy,
is so unworldly that I'm almost speechless

And Harmony of all people with a gambling house, who knows all this, stands here, and is
and is totally indignant, as if it were the newest special news of the world.
So I can not think of anything more, lol.

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tontoo2
Experienced
Rizk is getting shittier and shittier. Had uploaded a photo ID at the beginning, verified, ok. You can still see it in the history.
Now it started with small withdrawals, again requested photo ID (valid until 2022), etc..
Uploaded, in process, but again mails, please upload.

Ikibu belongs to the same group, also runs only crappy.
The last few days run generally many slots well, but at Ikibu everything just eaten down, Rizk pulls withdrawals with renewed request for the documents that are already available in the length.
Wanted to close the account at Ikibu several times, everything down to 0, nothing open, of course always the same error message, something like, please down. ðŸ™"

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Anonym
tontoo2 wrote on 08/21/2018 at 8:53 pm: Rizk is getting shitty. Had uploaded a photocopy ID at the beginning, verified, ok. Still shows in the history.
Now it started with small withdrawals, again requested photocopy ID (valid until 2022), etc.
Uploaded, in process, but again mails, please upload.

Ikibu belongs to the same group, also runs only crappy.
The last few days run generally many slots well, but at Ikibu everything just eaten down, Rizk pulls withdrawals with renewed request for the documents that are already available in the length.
Wanted to close the account at Ikibu several times, everything down to 0, nothing open, of course always the same error message, something like, please downplay. ðŸ™"

Slots can run everywhere times bad, thought sunmaker is cursed until I won twice in a row 200 € with 25 € Deposit (more goes because of self limit also not).

At Rizk you can contact the Live Chat times and ask why it was requested new or why the new was not accepted. I have made several small withdrawals there, but my full Verification has been in process for more than a week. Have but nothing big to cash out (5 € are still there, but because of loss limit not playable until tomorrow), but I'm good things that everything works out.

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Isisam
Rookie
Rizk refuses my payout of. 3275,00 €

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