Well, this article will (hopefully) show up in the Google Serps soon, so that players will be warned. I think that will cost Mr. Ringo much more than the few thousand euros they refuse to pay you.
Hey train driver, try to write to them via Facebook, they sometimes answer even at 9 pm and there are probably auvh some who have not received their money, try to therapies them there!
Daniel I would like to know one thing, since mrringo often ignores emails and vllt even request for payment from the mga, are we players then our money los, or can we pull the responsibility, which gave these people a license and thus as a safe casino could present itself? It is in the task of this authority such besvhwerden to go after and 1 x the annual investigations. I have seen so many people in various forums ubd also on mrringos official page on facebook that there are many people who do not get their money, the seat of which is supposed to be in malta have seen via ne page where you get the ip and can locate that they are probably in london then but the site was established via a company that is in phoenix and the name is protected by the site godaddy but have a ltd which was founded in England. They do everything under false identities. Why is this just allowed? Can anyone make a page on ubd go on a fraud tour. Then they have a secure certificate from the English. They are probably now on the Blacklist I do not know if this is official or not. But, the non-payment of people reaches a larger dimension and it is more likely that these people from today to tomorrow vllt no longer be there.
this is all useless. this is a stalling tactic without any money flowing. the bad thing is that you are still allowed to merrily pay into this criminal association, at the latest someone must be able to be held accountable. with the number of complaints, an authority must act. it is really very easy to create a page and then simply disappear again with the money when things don't go so well...
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12th Jun. 2017, at 05:52 pm CEST#25
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I can understand the displeasure of the people who do not receive their money from this and other providers very well. However, I have a theory about what might currently be the case here
I read a few days ago that the German tax authorities have initiated investigations against some online gambling providers because of improperly paid VAT on deposits and improperly paid sports betting tax
Because although the providers operate illegally under German law and the German state and politicians are apparently too stupid for decades to put a proper regulation on the legs, one requires for some time both taxes on bets placed and 19% VAT on the Deposit in eg OCs from the providers.
The providers where there are currently problems with payouts, are then probably the target of investigations. Of course, there may also be payment problems because accounts or other means of payment have been frozen as part of the investigations
As I said, this is just a guess, but the context would make sense to me.
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Interesting theory!But if the tax authorities freeze business accounts, why don't they do the same with player accounts ?!!
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vivera365 wrote on 06/12/2017 at 18:51: Interesting theory!But if the tax authorities freeze business accounts, why don't they do the same with player accounts ?!!
I don't quite follow what you mean by player accounts? The accounts in the OC? Why and how would they freeze them?
Or do you mean the bank account of the players? I don't see why the authorities should do that here either.
The money that the players have deposited is also in one or possibly several bank accounts (at different banks) or accounts of payment service providers such as Neteller and Skrill, where else should the money be.
Here is the article from which I draw my knowledge about the investigations and on which my assumption is based: German Prosecutors Target Online Operators Over Tax
But as I said before, I don't know who exactly is affected by the investigations. It would not surprise me personally only with some providers.
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Yes, I mean the money paid in by the players - why isn't it "secured" so to speak?
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vivera365 wrote on 12.06.2017 at 19:22: Yes exactly im meaning the money paid in by the players - why isn't that quasi "Secured" then ?
That would be it but then quasi if accounts are frozen. This ensures but in the first place only that a Provider has payment difficulties because he does not come at the time to the money or he was also taken the infrastructure for payouts
Deposits are usually made through a third-party provider and not directly through the provider. If you look at, for example, where the money goes via Sofortüberweisung, Giropay, etc., you see that usually not directly the provider but, for example, Ayden, mrcash.de or similar, as a recipient on the statement. These are just payment service providers who then forward the money to the account of the provider
However, payouts usually run directly via bank accounts, Neteller or Skrill accounts of the provider itself.
The German state does not give a shit about the players. At least you can assume that. If they think that someone has tax debts, then they first get the money, no matter who that should actually belong to. In addition, the authorities can not even know who the provider owes what
If this is true with the investigations and possibly frozen accounts, then the provider must first look that he gets a structure with which he can pay out even without the frozen accounts
The stupidest thing you can do as a gambling provider is not to pay out winnings on your own. Simply because the loss of trust is enormous. But if you always pay out the few winnings, which occur from time to time, then it continues to run well for the provider. Therefore, I do not believe that a provider, if the operators are not just completely stupid, voluntarily delays the payment so extremely
As a player, there is nothing you can do now but wait and see. I'm also curious to see what comes of it. Investigations does not necessarily mean anything and as I said who is affected we do not know
This also shows that the German state does not care what happens to the players
sounds a bit more promising, especially since mr.r. has already paid out. but an official statement or pure feedback would not be bad. in case of complete insolvency, the site would have been shut down...
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Daniel I would like to know one thing, since mrringo often ignores emails and vllt even request for payment from the mga, are we players then our money los, or can we pull the responsibility, which gave these people a license and thus as a safe casino could present itself? It is in the task of this authority such besvhwerden to go after and 1 x the annual investigations. I have seen so many people in various forums ubd also on mrringos official page on facebook that there are many people who do not get their money, the seat of which is supposed to be in malta have seen via ne page where you get the ip and can locate that they are probably in london then but the site was established via a company that is in phoenix and the name is protected by the site godaddy but have a ltd which was founded in England. They do everything under false identities. Why is this just allowed? Can anyone make a page on ubd go on a fraud tour. Then they have a secure certificate from the English. They are probably now on the Blacklist I do not know if this is official or not. But, the non-payment of people reaches a larger dimension and it is more likely that these people from today to tomorrow vllt no longer be there.
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I read a few days ago that the German tax authorities have initiated investigations against some online gambling providers because of improperly paid VAT on deposits and improperly paid sports betting tax
Because although the providers operate illegally under German law and the German state and politicians are apparently too stupid for decades to put a proper regulation on the legs, one requires for some time both taxes on bets placed and 19% VAT on the Deposit in eg OCs from the providers.
The providers where there are currently problems with payouts, are then probably the target of investigations. Of course, there may also be payment problems because accounts or other means of payment have been frozen as part of the investigations
As I said, this is just a guess, but the context would make sense to me.
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I don't quite follow what you mean by player accounts? The accounts in the OC? Why and how would they freeze them?
Or do you mean the bank account of the players? I don't see why the authorities should do that here either.
The money that the players have deposited is also in one or possibly several bank accounts (at different banks) or accounts of payment service providers such as Neteller and Skrill, where else should the money be.
Here is the article from which I draw my knowledge about the investigations and on which my assumption is based: German Prosecutors Target Online Operators Over Tax
But as I said before, I don't know who exactly is affected by the investigations. It would not surprise me personally only with some providers.
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That would be it but then quasi if accounts are frozen. This ensures but in the first place only that a Provider has payment difficulties because he does not come at the time to the money or he was also taken the infrastructure for payouts
Deposits are usually made through a third-party provider and not directly through the provider. If you look at, for example, where the money goes via Sofortüberweisung, Giropay, etc., you see that usually not directly the provider but, for example, Ayden, mrcash.de or similar, as a recipient on the statement. These are just payment service providers who then forward the money to the account of the provider
However, payouts usually run directly via bank accounts, Neteller or Skrill accounts of the provider itself.
The German state does not give a shit about the players. At least you can assume that. If they think that someone has tax debts, then they first get the money, no matter who that should actually belong to. In addition, the authorities can not even know who the provider owes what
If this is true with the investigations and possibly frozen accounts, then the provider must first look that he gets a structure with which he can pay out even without the frozen accounts
The stupidest thing you can do as a gambling provider is not to pay out winnings on your own. Simply because the loss of trust is enormous. But if you always pay out the few winnings, which occur from time to time, then it continues to run well for the provider. Therefore, I do not believe that a provider, if the operators are not just completely stupid, voluntarily delays the payment so extremely
As a player, there is nothing you can do now but wait and see. I'm also curious to see what comes of it. Investigations does not necessarily mean anything and as I said who is affected we do not know
This also shows that the German state does not care what happens to the players
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