Bones wrote on 07/11/2018 at 1:51 pm
I find this a bit far fetched. As always, we only hear about the cases that win a lot with the 10€ registration bonus and not the thousands that lose with it. I for example at that time, 10€ down rattled as one knows it. There is simply no proof. Or the clear indication. And the logic is also missing. Which casino would profit from it? Give a player 10€, let him win high and then not pay out the money because of the rules? This is the worst advertising campaign in history I would say. What is the whole thing supposed to do? To upset the player?
Once I had a man next to me in the Spielo, who told me that Book of Ra is programmed in such a way that there are always 2 extra books to upset the player. Of course this is nonsense, the two books come because almost-wins have the same effect on the brain as wins. Nobody has an interest in upsetting players specifically.
What do you find far-fetched about that?
The casino converts Bonus money into REAL money.
What is real money? Money that belongs to me.
But now the casino claims in the case that you win with the real money it was then suddenly but no more real money, but bonus money.
Should one pay out the 100 and immediately Deposit again but wins are valid?
This suggests more than just the suspicion that there is something to do with their software and they can probably only change as soon as you have deposited again.
Imagine you go to the bank that gives you 10 euros to open an account. Now you invest the 10Euro in shares and make 10.000 out of it. Now the bank says they don't get the 10,000 because they would have had to withdraw the 10 euros first and then deposit them back into the account. Then your 10.000 would be valid.
And conversely, this must actually mean that every player who was able to convert the bonus money into the 100 euros and then lost it again, would have to get it back. The user Schorsch would have to get back the 100 euros. You can not win a cent more with this money, but you can continue to play with it and lose everything again.
Say, do you notice actually still something? This is fraud in its purest form.
How you can even defend something like that is a mystery to me.
I don't know how to take you seriously.
Wrong, the casino does not claim it is Bonus money but only that the Max. Cashout 100€ amounts. So you can also win 500000000€, more than 100€ is just nothing. And that would be a huge mess, with a no Deposit bonus I find it justifiable. It's free money and you also have to see the company as a company. They have this promotion and they have to manage with it. I do not want to know how many registrations at Lapalingo have played only these 10 € and then never deposited, including me and certainly some others here in this forum.
Had the whole thing happened when converting a normal Deposit bonus I would see it differently. But free money to try out the casino is I think not necessarily something to which you are always 100% entitled and I can understand that without a deposit of the player simply the withdrawal amount is capped. This is also not a scam.
Samira: I am I certainly signed up over 100 casinos since 1-2 extreme bonus sessions and I can say from experience, in exactly 2 casinos I have once made it through the turnover requirements. At one I was automatically cut 6500€ to 100€ and at the other there was simply no reaction to the withdrawal request. These were also two dubious casinos and I never really got my hopes up.
Maybe I just see it differently than others here in the forum, I am of the opinion that casinos are economic enterprises that can also freely operate with their promotions as they want. Especially with a NoDeposit Bonus, here is not even a financial loss for the player? Fraud is still something different than that. This is maximum unethical business practice.
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I just do not understand the logic that I must first pay out 100 euros, and then Deposit money again. That makes no difference for the player or? Is yet both times my money.
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But it makes a difference for the casino because it has a reason,
not to pay out
We don't need to talk about the sense and nonsense of casino rules anymore
long no longer need to talk.
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It is really meanwhile an unbelievable cheek, what the casinos allow themselves
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Above all, a series is interrupted. Even if it should create times 3 pieces, the turnover conditions
to create, the casino has again secured, and pays out a maximum of € 100.
Thus, a lucky streak would be interrupted, the player cashed out, in again, and loses
of course. Strategy of the casino fully succeeded.
What there is to defend is simply the fact that the player has not paid anything? The player bears zero Risk and can gamble at the expense of the house. The house protects itself so that it does not have to pay out such sums. I really don't see any injustice in the system. The only thing that is a bit bitter is the communication of this rule, which is not clear. But no one is cheated out of their money here.
Zockertyp89 wrote on 11/07/2018 at 15:37: I just do not understand the logic that I first have to pay out 100 euros to then Deposit money again. That makes no difference to the player or ? Is yet both times my money.
This is also certainly not thought so, it would be just the official way. Is of course very unfortunate and stupid but with the mass of players who has claimed this bonus also understandable.
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Bone wrote on 11.07.2018 at 16:03: What there is to defend is simply the fact that the player has paid in nothing? The player bears zero Risk and can gamble at the expense of the house. The house protects itself to not have to pay out such sums. I really don't see any injustice in the system. The only thing that is a bit bitter is the communication of this rule, which is not clear. But no one is cheated out of their money here.
The player won 300 euros with the bonus and then had it paid out in 100 euros real money. 200 euros loss for him already, but this was clear to him and is ok.
After that he had 100 euros real money.
So it is no longer the money of the casino, but his. Just as if he would cash it out and cash it right back in. It simply makes no difference.
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Zockertyp89 wrote on 11/07/2018 at 16:06
The player won 300 euros with the bonus and then cash it out in 100 euros real money. 200 euros loss for him already, but this was clear to him and is ok.
After that he had 100 euros real money.
So it is no longer the money of the casino, but his. Just as if he would cash it out and cash it right back in. It simply makes no difference.
I also see so. Unless the oc has secured in the small printed... Ultimately, this is simply fraudulent misrepresentation. Declaring money as real money and in the end it is Bonus money? Where is then the sense between real money and bonus money display?
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What do you find far-fetched about that?
The casino converts Bonus money into REAL money.
What is real money? Money that belongs to me.
But now the casino claims in the case that you win with the real money it was then suddenly but no more real money, but bonus money.
Should one pay out the 100 and immediately Deposit again but wins are valid?
This suggests more than just the suspicion that there is something to do with their software and they can probably only change as soon as you have deposited again.
Imagine you go to the bank that gives you 10 euros to open an account. Now you invest the 10Euro in shares and make 10.000 out of it. Now the bank says they don't get the 10,000 because they would have had to withdraw the 10 euros first and then deposit them back into the account. Then your 10.000 would be valid.
And conversely, this must actually mean that every player who was able to convert the bonus money into the 100 euros and then lost it again, would have to get it back. The user Schorsch would have to get back the 100 euros. You can not win a cent more with this money, but you can continue to play with it and lose everything again.
Say, do you notice actually still something? This is fraud in its purest form.
How you can even defend something like that is a mystery to me.
I don't know how to take you seriously.
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Had the whole thing happened when converting a normal Deposit bonus I would see it differently. But free money to try out the casino is I think not necessarily something to which you are always 100% entitled and I can understand that without a deposit of the player simply the withdrawal amount is capped. This is also not a scam.
Samira: I am I certainly signed up over 100 casinos since 1-2 extreme bonus sessions and I can say from experience, in exactly 2 casinos I have once made it through the turnover requirements. At one I was automatically cut 6500€ to 100€ and at the other there was simply no reaction to the withdrawal request. These were also two dubious casinos and I never really got my hopes up.
Maybe I just see it differently than others here in the forum, I am of the opinion that casinos are economic enterprises that can also freely operate with their promotions as they want. Especially with a NoDeposit Bonus, here is not even a financial loss for the player? Fraud is still something different than that. This is maximum unethical business practice.
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not to pay out
We don't need to talk about the sense and nonsense of casino rules anymore
long no longer need to talk.
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to create, the casino has again secured, and pays out a maximum of € 100.
Thus, a lucky streak would be interrupted, the player cashed out, in again, and loses
of course. Strategy of the casino fully succeeded.
Don't know what there is to defend, bones.
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This is also certainly not thought so, it would be just the official way. Is of course very unfortunate and stupid but with the mass of players who has claimed this bonus also understandable.
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The player won 300 euros with the bonus and then had it paid out in 100 euros real money. 200 euros loss for him already, but this was clear to him and is ok.
After that he had 100 euros real money.
So it is no longer the money of the casino, but his. Just as if he would cash it out and cash it right back in. It simply makes no difference.
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I also see so. Unless the oc has secured in the small printed... Ultimately, this is simply fraudulent misrepresentation. Declaring money as real money and in the end it is Bonus money? Where is then the sense between real money and bonus money display?
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