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Public complaints: Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win (Page 28)

Topic created on 22nd Nov. 2017 | Page: 28 of 33 | Answers: 321 | Views: 135,587
SpinMeUp
Rookie
stkrie wrote on 12.06.2018 at 22:57: And for all this you have now specially registered?
To put the eagle casino in the right light in ell-long texts, and to make the
To clarify the correctness of the plot?
How much do you get for that?

There is always a first time, I've been reading here on GJ for a long time.
On CG I can be found under the same name.
Moreover, a casino would certainly not take the opportunity to do so six months later.

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s****e
Believe then there are enough more recent cases, and especially more obscure ones like this.
Why you choose the old one here
is a mystery to me.

But anyway, you do it!

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SpinMeUp
Rookie
stkrie wrote on 06/12/2018 at 23:43: belief then there are enough more recent cases, and especially more obscure ones like this.
Why you choose the old one here
is a mystery to me.

But anyway, you go for it!

You're probably much more mysterious how someone can only dare to represent a different opinion than your own?

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Anonym
Random wrote on 12/06/2018 at 22:59
In Austria, any casino that does not have a state license is prohibited to advertise or offer

Then I'm even more surprised that we constantly run this annoying Mr Green advertising on TV and radio

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s****e
@SpinMeUp

If you had read the entire thread, you would know that I basically agree with you.
Therefore your comment is complete nonsense.
If you already write posts, then please inform yourself completely!

If one registers yesterday, and creates ell-long threads for the Adlercasino, then that is and remains
strange

Your comments aim to put the Adlercasino in a good light.

But don't worry, I would deny it too!

P.S. Again a new registration of old acquaintances here?

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nenad
Amateur
Hello!
So there have been some changes
My lawyer is still convinced that the terms and conditions are not illegal and is 99% sure to insist on "malta" because these terms and conditions are not clear for the player, but last week the Insurance jumped off

The general legal protection conditions (art. 4/3 of the ARB 2004) regulate that
Insurance coverage only exists if the representation of your legal interests takes place in
takes place in Austria and an Austrian state court is responsible for it.

So now my question should I represent myself or cost estimate from the lawyer or give up?
Evtl would be a lawyer on malta cheaper or do you have any ideas what you could do

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s****e
If your lawyer is so sure, why don't you give him a certain percentage
of the win!

Your legal protection first says yes, and then says no? They should have known beforehand
where this will be negotiated
Strange.

The option to pay yourself makes you financially and nervously flat.
In addition, you have to Deposit a certain percentage of the amount in dispute.
The money is missing again in a lawsuit

What if the casino goes to appeal, and that stretches for years?

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nenad
Amateur
Percentage of the win is prohibited in Austria unfortunately
I have also offered

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upola
Legend
Then he does it pro Bono... and if you win you give him what you have agreed.


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nenad
Amateur
SpinMeUp wrote on 06/12/2018 at 8:48 pm: I don't understand why the TE is getting so much encouragement here.
Possibly it is because he himself keeps presenting the incidents differently, expressing himself unclearly and thus creating a false impression.

ThePogg has already addressed the issue ( https://thepogg.com/complaint/adler-225-000e-jackpot-is-frozen/ ) and unsurprisingly decided in favor of the casino.
Considering the facts (see link), there is no other option:

Player deposits 100€ and receives 100€ bonus. He immediately wagers 12€/spin and falls below 100€ balance, and thus into the bonus balance, with which the absolutely usual bonus guidelines apply. I hardly know any casino anymore that does NOT keep a 5€/spin Max Bet Rule on bonus credits. It's a mystery to me how the TE could even get the idea to exceed the max bet rule by 7€ from the beginning.

From the moment the TE falls into the bonus balance (i.e. below 100€) and bids more than 5€/spin, bonus and all following wins are null and void. Every casino has these terms and every casino also implements them in the case of obviously intentional behavior (here present). The most accommodating thing a good casino still does in case of intentional Bonus abuse is to refund the Deposit or give the customer a "fresh start", here: 100€ + 100€ bonus.

So it doesn't matter that the TE received the Jackpot win with INTENTIONALLY played through, wagered "former bonus money", because the Bonus money was never played through, as it was null and void from the 1st spin.
Every casino would have decided like this.

It is of course understandable that the player is now looking for any possible loophole, e.g. clearly formulated terms and conditions (point 18) reworded, which are not at all applicable to his case. This is therefore probably also due to his poor knowledge of English, which does not make the whole thing easier.
Nevertheless, the TE remains guilty of the answer, how he can come at all on the idea to bet with a bonus 12€ per spin from the first second - knowing that absolute industry standard 5€ / spin maximum are. I can only explain this to myself by intention - after a six-figure "win" the dilemma is now of course big and I bet the TE could bite himself in the butt for his scatterbrained behavior.
Even if I think it can give little comfort: for about 70%, a big gambling win is not a win in the medium term, but the worst loss of their lives, in the worst cases even literally.

Nevertheless, I wish the TE all the best and good luck should he want to take the case to a Maltese court.

P.S. By the way, the jackpot was not kept or ever received by the Adlercasino, but remained with netent and was later distributed to the next, rightful winner.
By the way, every casino is happy when one of their players wins a pooled Provider jackpot, because it is free advertising for the casino itself, without them having to pay the high win themselves, but they can advertise with it. So in this case, the Adlercasino would have benefited from awarding the jackpot to the player.

The MGA has decision-making authority and casinos licensed by it are bound by the MGA's decision. If the MGA had awarded the jackpot win to the player, the Adlercasino would have paid it out or otherwise lost its license. However, the MGA decided against the player and for the casino for understandable reasons, just like thepogg.


  1. A bet is considered accepted once it has been confirmed by Adlercasino.com and the player receives this confirmation on his computer or any other device with which he has access to Adlercasino.com.



all good all good if it becomes nothing I can not change anything but the terms and conditions do not exclude the bonus conditions
and in my case the turnover of the conditions was confirmed

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