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Public complaints: Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win (Page 24)

Topic created on 22nd Nov. 2017 | Page: 24 of 33 | Answers: 321 | Views: 137,340
nenad
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Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

26th Apr. 2018, at 02:26 pm CEST#231
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Jurisdiction and applicable law

  1. The Player shall be subject to the jurisdiction of the location where L&L Europe Ltd conducts its principal business.

  2. The Player agrees that any dispute between him/her and L&L Europe Ltd shall be subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Malta



If gambling is not allowed in Austria, then the state of Austria would have to prosecute me
It has nothing to do with the win ðŸ˜'

PS: you sound like the LandL-Jan ðŸ˜'ðŸ˜'

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s****e

Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

26th Apr. 2018, at 02:42 pm CEST#232
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You don't understand what I'm writing.
In Austria, as in Germany, gambling in the form of Online Casinos is prohibited.

This results in a void contract through the registration, because of the prohibition.
Consequently, all losses, but also all wins are void. That is why you have good chances,
Of getting back the money you deposited. Because of the void contract

You cannot claim money from a void contract, even if it is due to you!
it is due!

I write now nothing more to it.

You do it already!

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nenad
Amateur

Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

26th Apr. 2018, at 03:09 pm CEST#233
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I understand you but you do not understand me

The contractual relationship between a registered player and Adlercasino.com is governed by these Terms of Use and is subject to the laws of Malta. Malta is an official member of the European un ion

If it was forbidden, it would be forbidden
Then this site would also be banned and the operators would face penalties......

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Daniel
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Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

26th Apr. 2018, at 03:14 pm CEST#234
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s****e

Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

26th Apr. 2018, at 03:38 pm CEST#235
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Especially in this case, I think it is important that it is discussed.
That's what this forum is for, and nenad's case is the prime example of a legal
legal dispute, which can have great consequences.

May one from now on no more milimeter from the actual topic deviate,
without being deleted or warned?
One can also exaggerate.

But you as the big boss here must know what you are doing.

In this sense....

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Daniel
Elite

Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

26th Apr. 2018, at 04:24 pm CEST#236
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stkrie wrote on 04/26/2018 at 3:38 pm: Especially with this case I think it is important that it is discussed.
That is what this forum is for, and nenad's case is the prime example of a
legal dispute which can have great implications.

May one from now on no more milimeter from the actual topic deviate,
without being deleted or warned?
One can also exaggerate.

But you as the big boss here must know what you are doing.

In this sense....

Sure, you may discuss this topic but the thread is already 24 pages long and there are other threads where this topic can be discussed and freely discussed, like here: https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/ist-online-gambling-in-deutschland-legal--541/

Of course, one may also deviate from the topic but current it revolves only around it and that is not the goal of this thread.

Fact is that Nenad's legal protection Insurance takes over the case (why should he lie) and that it possibly soon comes to a procedure and then one sees whether win is paid out or not and if not, with which it is justified. Who knows, maybe you are right. But to discuss this now in this thread further leads to nothing, but only inflates this thread even more pointless.

And even if it is so or turns out as you predict. What is he supposed to do. Just write off the money? Of course you fight for that amount and exhaust every possibility. Not to do it would be stupid.

And there are cases where casinos have been forced to pay out, see here: https://www.gamblejoe.com/news/merkur-casino-verweigert-auszahlung/

After all, they could have relied on the legal situation you describe to not have to pay out.



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Knochen
Elite

Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

26th Apr. 2018, at 04:28 pm CEST#237
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The question is what should happen if somehow he gets right. According to the casino, another player has already won the jackpot. Said Jackpot is no longer there and they will certainly not be able to reclaim the money from the new winner. Does this mean that the casino would have to pay out the jackpot twice?

I see little chance of winning here, but it is a very interesting case

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Daniel
Elite

Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

26th Apr. 2018, at 04:31 pm CEST#238
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Knochen wrote on 26.04.2018 at 16:28: The question is what should happen at all if it somehow comes to that he gets right. According to the casino, another player has already won the jackpot. Said Jackpot is no longer there and they will certainly not be able to reclaim the money from the new winner. Does this mean that the casino would have to pay out the jackpot twice?

I see little chance of winning here, but it is a very interesting case.

That's the way I see it. It is a very interesting case and could possibly lead to the industry improving - which would be a win for everyone. In the long run, it might even be a win for AdlerCasino itself - even if they don't know it yet ...

It would also have a positive effect on Malta as a location and the credibility of this license.

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nenad
Amateur

Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

26th Apr. 2018, at 10:19 pm CEST#239
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Well then have to be creative
the story with the player who won 50000 2 days later and supposedly got 200000 I honestly do not believe, and if is also no matter
I can not pay my rent this month because I have already given the money to someone else
At the MGA I was told that the MGA is actually only a mediator and the whole story is not legally binding and until they have nothing legally binding they should not have acted
If I min bike and the police stops me because I supposedly 200km / h drove is still the judge decides whether the whole story is clean

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s****e

Fraud: Adlercasino refuses to pay out 225.000€ from jackpot win

27th Apr. 2018, at 02:50 pm CEST#240
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However, the judge relies on the statements of the police, since he himself was not present.

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