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Public complaints: Casino Bonus Fooling + Question for Money Nobility (Page 2)

Topic created on 29th Jan. 2018 | Page: 2 of 4 | Answers: 34 | Views: 13,563
Anonym
.... and if they haven't died, they're still shitting on you today!

what does that have to do with it?? maybe you're right and irgdnetwas actually forwarded to the Provider, but nevertheless: the assumption of Sasch666 I can confirm 100%!!!!! you win with Bonus money DEUTLICH better than with real money. so 2 or 5 times in a row you vllt still believe in coincidence, but if it is now 20 times so crappy, then the number with the coincidence is out!!!
and no idea what you write there, but Online Casinos are RIGGED AS f**k!!!
And not a single spin you ever made online had a random outcome! EVERYTHING WAS PREDETERMINED!
Just like the casinos have also predetermined how far you will get with your bonus money!!!! And especially that you lose your bonus money shortly before completion of the Umsatzbedingunen again completely (was with me now at 4 out of 5 bonus offers EXACTLY like that!!!

To make my angry talk more concrete: if you write to the casinos, they tell you that they have no influence on whether you win or not, supposedly (so they say) you are forwarded to the game provider and play virtually on their account....
i think this is a lie!!!! whatever here the individual thinks to know... This lie does not match the reality in online casinos at all!!!
Reality: wins with bonus money, losses with real money!
i know enough people who confirm it EXACTLY so, privately AND from the community.
and I do not know anyone who would claim the opposite

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Anonym
f**kF***enhannes wrote on 06/02/2018 at 20:33: ... . and if they haven't died, they're still shitting you today!

what does that have to do with it?? maybe you're right and irgdnetwas actually forwarded to the Provider, but nevertheless: the assumption of Sasch666 I can confirm 100%!!!!! you win with Bonus money DEUTLICH better than with real money. so 2 or 5 times in a row you vllt still believe in coincidence, but if it is now already 20 times so crappy run, then the number is out with the coincidence!!!
and no idea what you write there, but Online Casinos are RIGGED AS f**k!!!
And not a single spin you ever made online had a random outcome! EVERYTHING WAS PREDETERMINED!
Just like the casinos have also predetermined how far you will get with your bonus money!!!! And especially that you lose your bonus money shortly before completion of the Umsatzbedingunen again completely (was with me now at 4 out of 5 bonus offers EXACTLY like that!!!

To make my angry talk more concrete: if you write to the casinos, they tell you that they have no influence on whether you win or not, supposedly (so they say) you are forwarded to the game provider and play virtually on their account....
i think this is a lie!!!! whatever here the individual thinks to know... this lie does not match the reality in online casinos at all!!!
Reality: wins with bonus money, losses with real money!
i know enough people who confirm it EXACTLY so, privately AND from the community.
and I know no one who would claim the opposite

in my opinion and experience this is nonsense. I also played a lot with bonus in the beginning and lost/won just as much as I lost and won without bonus. One thing is for sure: my biggest wins have come without a bonus and have saved paying out and the possible hassle. Bonuses should generally be avoided completely! All only bait offers and you are annoyed when you tear what and the shit then 35x must convert, sometimes even 40x.

My 16K win I had also without bonus, 100 deposited before. This whole Manipulation and conspiracy shit hangs me really sick of. then just stop playing and good iss.

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Anonym
Avantgarde83 wrote on 06/02/2018 at 20:47


I had my 16K win without bonus too, 100 deposited before. This whole Manipulation and conspiracy crap is really sick of me. then just stop playing and good iss.

Always ask me what that's about. If to 100% believes to be cheated it should simply leave. NIemand forces you to play!!!!

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Anonym
f**kF***enhannes wrote on 06/02/2018 at 20:33: ... . and if they haven't died, they're still shitting you today!

what does that have to do with it?? maybe you're right and irgdnetwas actually forwarded to the Provider, but nevertheless: the assumption of Sasch666 I can confirm 100%!!!!! you win with Bonus money DEUTLICH better than with real money. so 2 or 5 times in a row you vllt still believe in coincidence, but if it is now already 20 times so crappy run, then the number is out with the coincidence!!!
and no idea what you write there, but Online Casinos are RIGGED AS f**k!!!
And not a single spin you ever made online had a random outcome! EVERYTHING WAS PREDETERMINED!
Just like the casinos have also predetermined how far you will get with your bonus money!!!! And especially that you lose your bonus money shortly before completion of the Umsatzbedingunen again completely (was with me now at 4 out of 5 bonus offers EXACTLY like that!!!

To make my angry talk more concrete: if you write to the casinos, they tell you that they have no influence on whether you win or not, supposedly (so they say) you are forwarded to the game provider and play virtually on their account....
i think this is a lie!!!! whatever here the individual thinks to know... this lie does not match the reality in online casinos at all!!!
Reality: wins with bonus money, losses with real money!
i know enough people who confirm it EXACTLY so, privately AND from the community.
and i don't know anyone who would claim the opposite

I sign that immediately!

In the last week 2x made the experience, in 2 different casinos.

50 € deposited, I could activate the bonus (25%) in the customer account itself or let it expire.
So, the 50 € were gone to pay I did not want so bonus activated and then it has flutscht.
There was, however, this 5 € rule, and there I assume the casino now times "fraud", I usually use the space bar to turn, so I did that with the bonus money, so slot open coin value set, and lo and behold with the space bar starts MAX-BET so clearly over 5 € so it is no longer possible to withdraw anything.

Also observed :
If I want to go with the mouse pointer on spin, the pointer does not go to the spin button, but the Maxbetbutton only when the pointer goes further into the upper right corner is the spin button selected...

If this is a problem which has to do with my hardware this can be deleted here^^.

Btw: I always order the bonus immediately off, this usually does not like the support staff, only reluctantly they deactivate this...


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tontoo2
Experienced
This is one of the reasons why I play with bonuses.
Although not the rule, but often you play with bonus longer, because it simply runs better and is usually not immediately eaten down.

The last few days again a lot of Starburst, interesting, no matter in which casino, at 50 cents per spin without bonus, the slot is egging on. So max 20-30x win. Tasende Spins.
However, when at the scam store Spintastic a worthless bonus, from which wins can not be paid out, was active, it went well. Quasi full screens 7s, 4 reel bar, etc.

I think every casino has its own "slot farm" at the providers. Except for some jackpots.
And corresponding possibilities to turn on some settings, so to speak comparable with restaurant and casino operations. And this new scam with the limits on Bonuses, max. payout in the amount of the bonus, or 2x bonus, etc. only serves to push the actual payout ratio (= net profit for the casino).
It's like putting in a booker chip and fooling the machine into thinking there are wins, but they were never paid out. The machine books a 210% rate in an hour, the casino actually pays out only a fraction of the win, the machine eats until 95% is reached.

Utmost caution with casinos that limit the win when playing with Deposit bonuses. First and foremost Spintastic as a prime example, which pays out only the pure bonus amount and keeps all the win. Big scammers, very well thought out and perfidiously set up. Absolutely avoid. The payout ratios are manipulated.

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Anonym


Btw: I always cancel the bonus right away, usually the support staff doesn't like that, only reluctantly they deactivate it...



in which casinos do you play? Have never experienced that something was simply booked or there was trouble. And as I said, without it can run the same...gambling and so 😉

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wettibernd
Expert
Thinking the other way around --- I'll give it a try, sign up there and Deposit 100. Maybe I can then 3 hours rumzocken free the bonus and then let me pay out 200. That should be feasible.

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tontoo2
Experienced
First, the Deposit is eaten. And this turnover does not contribute to the free spins. Only after that it goes off with wins. Then you make 500 from 100 euros bonus, can pay out 100, 400 win expire.
But the machine does not know that. The next person then plays without a bonus and on a device with a much lower payout ratio than specified.

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Anonym
tontoo2 wrote on 07/02/2018 at 13:27: First, the Deposit is eaten. And this turnover does not contribute to the free play. Only after that it goes off with wins. There you make then from 100 euro bonus 500, can pay out 100, 400 win expire.
But the machine does not know that. The next person then plays without a bonus and on a device with a much lower payout ratio than specified.

all this is subjective, I do not see it that way...and there is no evidence for it. Otherwise, no one would win without a bonus.

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tontoo2
Experienced
We are talking about very specific casinos that are out with this new scam.
My suspicions were confirmed after a conversation with a SQL database manager who works in the industry.

To summarize: There are ways to set a difference when playing with or bonus. The limitation of the win with active bonus serves as a booker chip. Players without bonus have very low chances in such casinos, the actual payout rate is much lower than stated.
Players with bonus can hope for a small win or the Deposit amount.

All this has nothing to do with reputable casinos. Of course, you can win.

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