Public complaints: BeTruG - Extra Chilli (Page 8)

TomWegas wrote on 23.12.2018 at 16:41
I have to correct myself because also the collected data about the drop feature with the probabilities to get one round further are of course very very interesting for the players of the game

Just unfortunately imo it doesn't prove cheating according to the current regulatory conditions. As already mentioned, these shifted and untraceable probabilities unfortunately exist at all possible slots - online as well as offline

I would still find it interesting if a court case would be conducted because of something like this. That would at least initiate a discussion and maybe a change. But unfortunately, the "good" lawyers are always where the most money is and that is gambling now times not where the interests of the players are... If it were up to me, these theoretical probabilities should be displayed. Similar to the lottery. The mere indication of the RTP simply does not offer enough transparency because you can read the Variance

So I would also be happy to see the data as it then actually behaves in this slot which has me also already neat durchge****. Precisely because you do not know how the probabilities are. You only know that it is not as the representation suggests.

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TomWegas wrote on 12/23/2018 at 6:37 PM
The RTP is basically exactly the same as the price in the supermarket. The RTP indicates how much you pay to play in the long run. Relatively how many games you can make on average for your Deposit

Let's take an example:

- 100 Euro deposit
- Slot RTP 96%.
- Bet per spin 1 Euro
- Average loss per spin 0,04 Euro
- Results in an average of 2500 spins at 1 Euro each that could be made

That the RTP does not indicate anything is nonsense but there is still the Variance factor. And this is the problem. There is no indication of the variance of a game in the slots

What you call cheating in your example is the essence of gambling - the longer and the more you play, the more likely you are to go bust and lose everything. If you play without limit, you will always go broke because of the house advantage (which is given by the RTP). That's not cheating, that's the definition of gambling.... If you think that's cheating you shouldn't gamble at all. Which is either way financially always the best solution

That the variance is lower when you buy the feature is logical. Because your stake is also higher. If you don't buy the feature you have a much higher variance but also a slightly lower RTP.

I would also wish that the providers would also have to make a value for the variance of a game. But please stop it once and for all that the RTP says nothing at all, because it just says how long it takes mathematically until you go broke on average or even how much the respective bet costs on average.

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TomWegas wrote on 12/23/2018 at 6:54 PM
Okay if that's the case I'm even more curious about the stats. That would then as a player probably also quite to his own advantage can use. In which one then just does not gamble high at these times or drops the game altogether. The latter is always the most profitable in the long run because you lose nothing if you do not play. So always 100% RTP and that too all without variance. <3

The only problem is that the number of games does not really say anything about the possible win

That you could predict the results before relatively well is clear if you know that it is XY% probability.

I'm really curious about the numbers and how you explain that. Then the statistics must be really very extensive. So also when which games were bought speak sequence etc.

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