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Public complaints: 4YOUBET REFUSES TO PAY OUT 2.500€ (Fraud & Rip-off)

Topic created on 28th Apr. 2018 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 7 | Views: 2,828
Geschaedigter
Unbelievable. Have won about 2500 EUR with this Provider quite legally and without bonus funds. Now my account is closed and all funds were collected, with the reason

" "2.46. 4YouBet reserves the right to close any accounts and cancel any bets, Bonuses and wins if the account was created or used using IP or geolocation masking technologies (including but not limited to VPN, proxy servers, etc.)."

Allegedly VPN connections were used in my logins. I have absolutely no idea what this provider wants from me. To me, this is simply an excuse to avoid paying.

Does anyone have any experience with this provider or can help me out??? I have deposited several hundred euros there and I don't even get my deposits refunded.

FINGER AWAY FROM THIS PROVIDER!!!!

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Daniel
Elite
The online casino is based and licensed in Curacao and is operated by Altair Entertainment N.V. and Payific LTD.

Besides 4youbet, these companies currently operate the following Online Casinos, online bookmakers or online lotteries:


  • Lotto Palace

  • Kulbet



There are currently some warnings on the Internet. Lotto Palace, Kulbet and 4youbet is listed on some blacklists of English speaking websites on the Internet. Fraud is to be expected at mentioned online casinos. In addition, all online casinos of Altair Entertainment N.V. and Payific LTD. only have a gambling license in Curacao. In general, we advise against playing in online casinos that do not have gambling licenses within Europe, as the regulatory authorities virtually never react or otherwise take action.

Unfortunately, you will have to write off the money - sorry!

I really don't know how you always find such junk casinos and why you Deposit money there? Alone with the Design all alarm bells shrill with me and if I see then the license, then is anyway over. If you buy, for example, a new MP3 player for 50 €, then you also do not buy every junk, but researched before, look at user reviews, etc. and do not trust every junk spam site on the Internet.

In the German-speaking web, GambleJoe is currently the only better-known site on the subject of online gambling, which places value on the opinion of its community. Online casinos can be rated on our site and we also try to list only good online casinos in advance in our online casino comparison. Unlike most casino sites on the German-speaking web, we completely refrain from listing providers that are licensed exclusively in Curacao, although these casinos site operators usually pay significantly more for the listing.

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Daniel
Elite
All you had to do was scroll down, past a few spam casino pages:

Daniel
You won't get your money in this case but at least other potential victims will be warned about 4youbet in the future. In the best-case scenario, the warnings will be displayed directly below the casino after some time, like this:

Daniel


The only other thing you can try is to file a complaint with the Banana Regulatory Authority of Curacao. You can do that in this form (Flie up a complaint):

https://www.curacao-egaming.com/#footer

However, it will almost certainly be useless.

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Geschaedigter
Thank you Daniel! If we can keep others from depositing funds into this casino, that's already a success too! Many greetings

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Anonym
First of all, welcome... just wanted to say that I'm really sorry about what happened to you. Try to see it from the positive side... your win and also the deposited money is gone... but they do not get more from you and through this incident you are fortunately landed here and thus have the opportunity to choose from the reputable casinos listed here. Wish you all the more, if you continue to play, for the future a super win. Do not understand these dirty pseudo casinos... in the long run, they only harm themselves.

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Anonym
It would be much more important to look at why these casinos can cheat at all.

Insofar as they use real slots, it is very questionable why the game manufacturers play along at all. And these also get money com casino.
I think times should a casino even the game manufacturer not pay this immediately terminate the contract and the games runternehmen.

So you can already say that the game manufacturers participate in the fraud or at least knowingly allow it to earn money.

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Daniel
Elite
Random wrote on 28.04.2018 at 15:36: It would be much more important to look at why these casinos can cheat in the first place.

Insofar as these use real slots, it is very questionable why the game manufacturers play at all. And these also get money com casino.
I think times should a casino even the game manufacturer not pay this immediately terminate the contract and the games runternehmen.

So you can already say that the game manufacturers participate in the fraud or at least knowingly allow it to earn money.

Well, often such casinos work with fake slots, ie plagiarism, see Futuriti Casino, Ares Casino and other Russian Mafiacasinos. There are not only the Novomatic and Merkur Slots plagiarism. You would have to take a closer look at 4youbet. I could imagine that they do not use the original slots. You can also theoretically complain to the game manufacturers and point out which casinos use their software. If enough complaints come together, then one or the other manufacturer will possibly end the cooperation with the casinos. If only because this damages the reputation of the game manufacturers too much in the long run.

If the casinos use original slots, then the game manufacturer is not only conditionally involved. Basically, the game manufacturers are their own companies, which provide the casinos with a dedicated remote software and are involved in the losses of the players or per spin percentage. The game manufacturers can be relatively indifferent to who uses the software. If, of course, as with Playtech back then, the casinos that use the software are 99% junk, then that ruins the reputation of the game manufacturer in the long run.

Some game manufacturers pay attention to who uses their software, some do not. But you can be sure that even junk casinos pay all the costs that are necessary to keep the game running. The advertisers are also paid - otherwise there wouldn't be so many rogue casino sites on the market advertising the junk. In principle, these dubious casinos even pay significantly better than the reputable ones, because they simply have less costs and for this reason, these casinos are sometimes advertised so penentrantly on other casino sites. After we said that the license does not suit us and therefore alone no cooperation comes into question, they offered us without batting an eye to pay double what we normally demanded. But we still refused ...

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Anonym
Exactly Daniel, that's what I meant.

I also think it's good that you go the long term honest way instead of the short term much dust off but many players are bounced for it.

And if they work with fakeslots can of course no game manufacturer what for it.
But there are also many Curacao casinos that have original slots and still cheat what the stuff holds. Here, in my opinion, the game manufacturers are very well in the duty.
Because: Without the games no casino. Without the games no cheating.
And as soon as I see and play an original BOD, no matter where, I trust that everything is in order.
Here the game manufacturers must intervene as quickly as possible and draw consequences.
Because there can only be so many fraud casinos if the game manufacturers play along.

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