I don't understand the problem with paying out to the bank account, it doesn't say casino win on the training but something paymentst solutions or something. In the end there is no way around it. You also have to connect many wallets to a bank account to be able to use them. The casinos themselves or their financial administrators have probably been subject to conditions regarding payouts to Germany. And let's not forget the shock and subsequent paranoia in the German financial sector and authorities when Wirecard blew up.
Even if the providers are legal and even if the bank does not cause you any problems, you will have 10000% problems if you want a loan or any kind of financing at all in 10, 20 or even 30 years because once you are marked as a player and you will be even if you are 100,000 € in the plus, you can usually forget this bank for all time as far as loans are concerned
What do you think? A friend of mine always had to go a whole town away to gamble because he works at the bank and they would fire him if they saw him as a gambler and he only works there
In the end, no government and no GGL cares what your credit score is so if I Deposit with Skrill I want to pay out to Skrill and not to the bank
I don't even want to be messed up by these places that don't even agree on what they can and can't do
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2nd Apr. 2024, at 08:56 am CEST#17
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gamble1 wrote on 02.04.2024 at 03:37 am:
Even if the providers are legal and even if the bank doesn't give you any problems you will get 10000% problems if you want a loan or even financing of any kind in 10, 20 or even 30 years because once you are marked as a player and you will be even if you are 100.000 € in the plus you can usually forget this bank for all time as far as loans are concerned
What do you think? A friend of mine always had to go a whole town away to gamble because he works at the bank and they would fire him if they saw him as a gambler and he only works there
In the end, no government and no GGL cares what your credit score is so if I Deposit with Skrill I want to pay out to Skrill and not to the bank
I don't even want to be messed up by these places that don't even agree on what they can and can't do
Well, you can't say that about the credit in such absolute terms.
My bank gives me an overdraft facility of around 2x my net salary (I've never actually asked for that amount, I notice 😄). Since I had a consumer loan there for a new car (even during my gambling days, back then still in the gray zone with constant payouts to my account), I've constantly been offered more loans.
When it comes to large sums, such as for a house or similar, then it may be true that it is difficult to get this as a known gambler.
But you can't generally say that you can't get financing for anything. It is certainly not possible to judge how the bank will assess a good customer in 20 or 30 years' time who has perhaps not gambled for 15 years.
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2nd Apr. 2024, at 12:13 pm CEST#18
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gamble1 wrote on 02.04.2024 at 03:37 am:
Even if the providers are legal and even if the bank doesn't give you any problems you will get 10000% problems if you want a loan or even financing of any kind in 10, 20 or even 30 years because once you are marked as a player and you will be even if you are 100.000 € in the plus you can usually forget this bank for all time as far as loans are concerned
What do you think? A friend of mine always had to go a whole town away to gamble because he works at the bank and they would fire him if they saw him as a gambler and he only works there
In the end, no government and no GGL cares what your credit score is so if I Deposit with Skrill I want to pay out to Skrill and not to the bank
I don't even want to be messed up by these places that don't even agree on what they can and can't do
Nobody will mess up your credit rating anymore. Because since yesterday this has been regulated by law. The EU already passed a law last year. Our data protection laws should be reformed anyway and things like credit rating etc. should be adapted so that it fits in with EU law. What is on your account statements must not be viewed or be part of your rating. There are several other points that protect the consumer.
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2nd Apr. 2024, at 01:43 pm CEST#20
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Stromberg wrote on 02.04.2024 at 08:56:
Well, you can't say that about the loan in such absoluteness.
My house bank grants me an overdraft of about 2x net salary (I never actually asked for it in this amount, I notice 😄). Since I had a consumer loan there for a new car (even during my gambling days, back then still in the gray zone with constant payouts to my account), I've constantly been offered more loans.
When it comes to large sums, such as for a house or similar, then it may be true that it is difficult to get this as a known gambler.
But you can't generally say that you can't get financing for anything. It's certainly not possible to judge how the bank will assess a good customer in 20 or 30 years' time who hasn't gambled for 15 years.
Yes, I partly agree with you, but unfortunately there are also exceptions where you are really down for good and if you are forced to do so, I don't think that's right because then, in case of doubt, you have no other option at all
Frankey wrote on 02.04.2024 at 12:13 pm:
Nobody messes up your credit rating anymore. Because since yesterday this is regulated by law. The EU already passed a law last year. Our data protection laws should be reformed anyway and things like credit rating etc. should be adapted so that it fits in with EU law. What is on your account statements must not be viewed or be part of your rating. There are several other points that protect the consumer.
They are also not allowed to do racial profiling and yet it happens, then you have just picked up the information somewhere else I would not rely on a law without restriction
They weren't allowed to simply increase the account management fees back then either and would have to refund everything, but if you reported it, you were terminated
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16th Jul. 2024, at 01:33 pm CEST#21
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Timbing86 wrote on 31.03.2024 at 19:26: Are there any tricks how I can get a successful payout without a German account?
For example, I was able to finish verifying my account at die-spielbank.de, but if I want to have a win paid out, it only goes to a German iban or account and I don't have that at the moment.
In the meantime, other EU bank accounts can also be used with us.
ℹ Other payment options are not permitted due to legal requirements. This is primarily based on cross-provider requirements regarding anonymous payment services ( in accordance with GlüStV / GwG)
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17th Jul. 2024, at 05:58 am CEST#22
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gamble1 wrote on 02.04.2024 at 13:43:
They are also not allowed to do racial profiling and yet it happens then you just picked up the info somewhere else I wouldn't rely on a law without reservation
They weren't allowed to simply increase the account management fees back then either and would have to refund everything, but if you reported yourself, you were terminated
I didn't have to report it myself. I got a letter from the savings bank. But it was written in such a way that no normal person understood what they actually wanted. That was probably intentional so that people would just throw the letter away. All you had to do was sign it and you were done. I found out about it from a Reddit post.
I find location profiling really bad. Although you have always paid everything on time, your score can be negatively affected because Schufa has marked your location as a negative area. In the future, it should also be possible to immediately call up the reason for a bad score, so that a lender or retailer can decide for themselves whether to approve a loan or financing In any case, Schufa and co will lose power. There should still be a system that determines whether you are creditworthy or not. Schufa is a company listed on the stock exchange with the power to destroy livelihoods or make future dreams come true or burst. That's how they earn money. And of course, turnover should increase and that only works the more influence Schufa has on our lives. They would love to start labeling people as soon as they are born. I find Klarna's business model just as impossible as Schufa. Klarna is a bank/creditor/collection agency and Schufa at the same time. How can that be legal
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17th Jul. 2024, at 03:55 pm CEST#23
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Frankey wrote on 17.07.2024 at 05:58:
I didn't have to report myself. I got a letter from the savings bank. But it was written in such a way that no normal person understood what they actually wanted. That was probably intentional so that people would just throw the letter away. All you had to do was sign it and you were done. I found out about it from a Reddit post.
I find location profiling really bad. Although you have always paid everything on time, your score can be negatively affected because Schufa has marked your location as a negative area. In the future, it should also be possible to immediately call up the reason for a bad score, so that a lender or retailer can decide for themselves whether to approve a loan or financing In any case, Schufa and co will lose power. There should still be a system that determines whether you are creditworthy or not. Schufa is a company listed on the stock exchange with the power to destroy livelihoods or make future dreams come true or burst. That's how they earn money. And of course, turnover should increase and that only works the more influence Schufa has on our lives. They would love to start labeling people as soon as they are born. I find Klarna's business model just as impossible as Schufa. Klarna is a bank/creditor/collection agency and Schufa at the same time. How can that be legal
Yes, the Sparkasse was similar to me at the time, as I received a letter explaining that I could get back the amounts I had overpaid, but in the same letter it was pointed out that if I did so, the business relationship could not be continued
On the subject of Klarna you can say such a model is not uncommon just take the shipping giant Otto who sell things then give the loans out of their own pocket when you pay in installments and if you get in default, a law firm that has nothing to do with Otto in terms of name but according to the Internet had its headquarters in the same building as Otto for a long time
With Klarna, I don't necessarily see the problem in this model because if everyone pays their bills, no one will charge you unnecessary interest. I find Klarna's general morality of approving payments much more reprehensible because if a few run without problems, you will soon have an almost unlimited amount at your disposal and can postpone your bills month after month for high interest rates and then not be able to pay them in the end and convert everything into an even more expensive installment payment
Add to that something like the Klarna Card or the Klarna bank account and many people who don't have their shopping under control are pushed into Debt
Klarna is also supposed to be pretty quick with Schufa entries if something doesn't go so smoothly
In general, however, you can always try to buy as little as possible on account because for Schufa someone who buys a lot on account is not a picture book example with a good credit rating because someone with a good credit rating does not spend money that he does not have, at least in the eyes of Schufa and others! Because you must not forget that every invoice is a credit!
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Even if the providers are legal and even if the bank does not cause you any problems, you will have 10000% problems if you want a loan or any kind of financing at all in 10, 20 or even 30 years because once you are marked as a player and you will be even if you are 100,000 € in the plus, you can usually forget this bank for all time as far as loans are concerned
What do you think? A friend of mine always had to go a whole town away to gamble because he works at the bank and they would fire him if they saw him as a gambler and he only works there
In the end, no government and no GGL cares what your credit score is so if I Deposit with Skrill I want to pay out to Skrill and not to the bank
I don't even want to be messed up by these places that don't even agree on what they can and can't do
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Well, you can't say that about the credit in such absolute terms.
My bank gives me an overdraft facility of around 2x my net salary (I've never actually asked for that amount, I notice 😄). Since I had a consumer loan there for a new car (even during my gambling days, back then still in the gray zone with constant payouts to my account), I've constantly been offered more loans.
When it comes to large sums, such as for a house or similar, then it may be true that it is difficult to get this as a known gambler.
But you can't generally say that you can't get financing for anything. It is certainly not possible to judge how the bank will assess a good customer in 20 or 30 years' time who has perhaps not gambled for 15 years.
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Nobody will mess up your credit rating anymore. Because since yesterday this has been regulated by law. The EU already passed a law last year. Our data protection laws should be reformed anyway and things like credit rating etc. should be adapted so that it fits in with EU law. What is on your account statements must not be viewed or be part of your rating. There are several other points that protect the consumer.
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Yes, I partly agree with you, but unfortunately there are also exceptions where you are really down for good and if you are forced to do so, I don't think that's right because then, in case of doubt, you have no other option at all
They are also not allowed to do racial profiling and yet it happens, then you have just picked up the information somewhere else I would not rely on a law without restriction
They weren't allowed to simply increase the account management fees back then either and would have to refund everything, but if you reported it, you were terminated
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Small update from our side as a Provider:
In the meantime, other EU bank accounts can also be used with us.
ℹ Other payment options are not permitted due to legal requirements. This is primarily based on cross-provider requirements regarding anonymous payment services ( in accordance with GlüStV / GwG)
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I didn't have to report it myself. I got a letter from the savings bank. But it was written in such a way that no normal person understood what they actually wanted. That was probably intentional so that people would just throw the letter away. All you had to do was sign it and you were done. I found out about it from a Reddit post.
I find location profiling really bad. Although you have always paid everything on time, your score can be negatively affected because Schufa has marked your location as a negative area. In the future, it should also be possible to immediately call up the reason for a bad score, so that a lender or retailer can decide for themselves whether to approve a loan or financing In any case, Schufa and co will lose power. There should still be a system that determines whether you are creditworthy or not. Schufa is a company listed on the stock exchange with the power to destroy livelihoods or make future dreams come true or burst. That's how they earn money. And of course, turnover should increase and that only works the more influence Schufa has on our lives. They would love to start labeling people as soon as they are born. I find Klarna's business model just as impossible as Schufa. Klarna is a bank/creditor/collection agency and Schufa at the same time. How can that be legal
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Yes, the Sparkasse was similar to me at the time, as I received a letter explaining that I could get back the amounts I had overpaid, but in the same letter it was pointed out that if I did so, the business relationship could not be continued
On the subject of Klarna you can say such a model is not uncommon just take the shipping giant Otto who sell things then give the loans out of their own pocket when you pay in installments and if you get in default, a law firm that has nothing to do with Otto in terms of name but according to the Internet had its headquarters in the same building as Otto for a long time
With Klarna, I don't necessarily see the problem in this model because if everyone pays their bills, no one will charge you unnecessary interest. I find Klarna's general morality of approving payments much more reprehensible because if a few run without problems, you will soon have an almost unlimited amount at your disposal and can postpone your bills month after month for high interest rates and then not be able to pay them in the end and convert everything into an even more expensive installment payment
Add to that something like the Klarna Card or the Klarna bank account and many people who don't have their shopping under control are pushed into Debt
Klarna is also supposed to be pretty quick with Schufa entries if something doesn't go so smoothly
In general, however, you can always try to buy as little as possible on account because for Schufa someone who buys a lot on account is not a picture book example with a good credit rating because someone with a good credit rating does not spend money that he does not have, at least in the eyes of Schufa and others! Because you must not forget that every invoice is a credit!
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