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Casino verification: sunmaker and sunnyplayer suddenly want bank data (Page 2)

Topic created on 07th Dec. 2021 | Page: 2 of 4 | Answers: 35 | Views: 9,416
gamble1
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Whitewolf49 wrote on 09/12/2021 at 00:13: My step father-in-law had to do this new Verification too. He had to enter his bank and personal banking pin. After that he was able to continue playing

I don't know what to make of this. Maybe a consent statement for the account ? Thought only a little later, that I had myself once such a thing. I wanted to buy a Paysafecard online what but about Klarna did not go on the day. So I chose another payment method. There I should then also enter my bank details, where then came the notice that I would approve for 3 months my account, I say it times so, for others to access. This I have then left.

Maybe it's something like that

Well this system is currently already Gang and Gebe but mostly with online loans because so mostly banks online once get an overview of your account and at the same time the identification is completed so you save Post Ident or similar

The difference is only that there is exactly what the bank receives once and what is not and that is missing here with the verification as I said the safest company could do that as long as no one tells me what the customer gets in this case sunmaker is really pretty weird

Even if Useless4yu has explained the whole pretty exaggerated I have to agree with him somewhere who tells me because they can not also see what I when where and how to buy and when I'm in overdraft and when not as I said with online loans the bank gets a one-time unblackened account statement who guarantees me that they only match my personal data?

In addition, I find funny my data were verified there years ago and yes you can say because of the regulation I accept yes but why the heck do they offer two types of verification if one does not work and you only have the online approval?

The support said on my request I should try it again and when I kindly told him that I probably do nothing wrong I should send a mail to support@sunmaker and explain what does not work

I think I'll do it tomorrow but I don't have too much hope especially since I haven't received an answer to my other request after almost 1 1/2 weeks

No matter what is going wrong there right now it's a real shame first came the changeover then the removal of loyalty points and then even the fees for one and except 2 free per 30 days also withdrawals but slowly enough there is just really the worm in it all error be it advertising promotions or verifications

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Svenr
Amateur
One should not believe it yes as I once a Schufa expression have sent me like many OC but really there inquiries make although mostly only identity check but still must be perso etc would have to be enough 🤷

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Cheeseburger
Experienced
It's all for our safety, you know.
Everything else are conspiracy theories...at least until they are implemented and are "without alternative".

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Katharina2
Top Member
magir wrote on 07/12/2021 at 22:01: Halllo,



Sunmaker udn Sunny want at once that I once my online banking data log in udn password enter for Verification, data are then collected via a munich company


Casinos will never ask for login data. If they do, drop them like a
a hot potato and give click-down. This is more than impudent and already
something for the BKA.

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Whitewolf49
Rookie
Yes. Has already a bad taste. Especially that this Verification came only when he had won 600 €. Logging in and continue playing was not possible without this information.

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gamble1
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Brief Update

Got an email my Verification is through seems to have submitted the data anyway although it said failed

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Eddie
Amateur
You don't seriously want to give your bank details to a casino. Since they never have a right to do so. And then even if's about a payout, that's completely senseless. I would knock there times at the lawyer.😉

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Slavefighter
Rookie
Hi there,

i think what the TE wanted to express, some casinos have the Sofort Ident verfahren included.
That is, I can log on (as with Klarna / Sofort) with my login data and I am then verified.
Say I am the person, my account is also mine and on the part of Sofort there is a Schufa query whether I am the person XY and my age fits accordingly.

(With SOFORT Ident you can verify the age of your customers. You forward your customer to be checked to our input form. With the help of an address check of the submitted address data and a login at the customer's bank, we can identify your customer. If the identification is successful, we subsequently make a Schufa inquiry and use it to check the customer's age. The result will be communicated to you by returning your customer to your (store) system)
https://integration.sofort.com/integrationCenter-ger-DE/content/view/full/2867/ here you can see what is happening.

about the one-time free Schufe information, you could then yes times Check what and who then really everything queries
But whether I now upload X documents (such as complete pay stubs or bank statements)
this would be a realtiv fast procedure.

Because bank data query or other in the form, violates banking secrecy

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Falko
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Does this banking secrecy still exist at all ? I just googled and found the sentence here > The so-called banking secrecy anchored in § 30a AO (German Tax Code) was repealed by the Tax Avoidance Combating Act of June 24, 2017.

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Niroht
Experienced
Slavefighter wrote on 12/12/2021 at 23:09: Hi there,

i think what the TE wanted to express, some casinos have the Sofort Ident verfahren included.
Say I can sign up (as with Klarna / Instant) with my login data and I am then verified.
Say I am the person, my account is also mine and on the part of Sofort there is a Schufa query whether I am the person XY and my age fits accordingly.

(With SOFORT Ident you can verify the age of your customers. You forward your customer to be checked to our input form. With the help of an address check of the submitted address data and a login at the customer's bank, we can identify your customer. If the identification is successful, we subsequently make a Schufa inquiry and use it to check the customer's age. The result will be communicated to you by returning your customer to your (store) system)
https://integration.sofort.com/integrationCenter-ger-DE/content/view/full/2867/ here you can see what is happening.

about the one-time free Schufe information, you could then yes times Check what and who then really everything queries
But whether I now upload X documents (such as complete pay stubs or bank statements)
this would be a realtiv fast procedure.

Because bank data query or other in the form, violates banking secrecy.

But this is not the case at all.
Everyone can make the effort and once and the terms of use and privacy policy of the executing company Fintec read through
The address data, identity, etc. is not checked as suggested. That could also be done by ID card or video ID.
Since your account is screened as you would want to take out a loan
So from my side, I will not perform this kind of Verification

As proof:

I just logged in again and went through the steps, i.e. entered the bank and then the page appears where you can enter your account number and login data. And there are under the consent button the terms of use and privacy policy of the executing company Fintec.

And there you can find such treasures as in the privacy policy :

1.1 By activating the 1st checkbox you agree that FTS processes personal data as follows in order to retrieve account information once and to transmit this information to your Provider:

    a) Categories of personal data concerned

    • Log data
      * Date and time of access * IP address (if requested by your bank) * Browser type and version * Operating system used *Pages accessed/transactions made in online banking.

    • Online Banking - Access data
      Our product is based on functionalities of your online banking. In order to use our product, we must be able to access your online account. For this purpose, the online banking login data associated with your account is requested and transmitted to your bank via our systems using an encrypted procedure. At some banks, we use special standard interfaces of your bank for this purpose (e.g. FinTS or a dedicated interface for third-party service providers). With other banks, access takes place via the user interface of your online banking, as if you were logging in there yourself. The login data (e.g. PIN) is only used to establish the connection to your online banking and is not permanently stored by FTS. The transmission to us and to your bank takes place via an encrypted connection that complies with banking standards.

    • Bank account information and financial information
      Once connected to your online banking, if multiple bank accounts are available and no pre-selection has been made by your provider, they will be displayed accordingly for you to select. Once you have selected an account, the following data can be read by us: * Bank connection data (account holder, account name, IBAN, BIC, account number, sort code) * Financial information (account balance, drawing limit, overdraft facility, transactions up to 365 days in the past, standing orders, scheduled transfers). In the context of the processing and transmission of account transactions, special categories of personal data within the meaning of Article 9 (1) DSGVO may also be affected. These are data on racial and ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, trade un ion membership, health data or data on the sex life or sexual orientation of a natural person. Processing of personal data of these special categories occurs if, for example, conclusions about your political opinion can be drawn from the transfer of a donation to a political party. In this respect, your consent also relates to the processing of special categories of personal data, insofar as this can be inferred from your financial information.






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