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Casino verification: Proof of income/assets (Page 3)

Topic created on 04th Mar. 2021 | Page: 3 of 5 | Answers: 40 | Views: 10,624
Krabbenburger
Experienced
In principle, this can happen at any Malta licensed casino, as it is a requirement of the MGA.
Some make it easy and others make it unnecessarily complicated and withhold the payout.
I also think it makes a lot of sense that casinos get deductions in their rating if they abuse the process to withhold payouts.
According to the MGA, a Source of Wealh check must be performed from an accumulated Deposit amount of € 2,000. So if one has deposited in total over several small deposits more than 2,000 € within a year.

Who is interested in the topic here is the original document of the MGA in English:

https://www.mga.org.mt/wp-content/uploads/Implementing-Procedures-Part-II_Remote-Gaming.pdf

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NoSkill_NoKill
Experienced
NoBonusUser wrote on 05/03/2021 at 19:53
This is a very good idea!

At least we all have to stand together here!


That's how I see it too!

Who starts?

I can already say that I have never experienced any harassment at:

Jetbull
Videoslots
William Hill

But I have to say that I can't name any negative ones, because I never played anywhere else except in these three mentioned above

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einteureshobby
Currently with me also at VulkanVegas the case. And yes it sucks, because I'm afraid that they refuse me the payout

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evopower140
Expert
einteureshobby wrote on 05.03.2021 at 22:16: Momentan with me also with VulkanVegas the case. And yes it sucks because I'm afraid that they deny me the payout


Yes exactly that's the point why is not queried at the Deposit because that's the money that is to be instructed and not the money that is won in a Pc that is clear where that comes from

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gamble1
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You have to say some casinos are really real heroes because you Deposit 50 € and makes again and again Plus and stands after months at 50,000 deposit and 49,800 payout

Then comes the request to prove the money

Well where they come from I do not know can explain no one hahahaha

Since I think to myself then only what the Fi** make the over there actually

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Katharina2
Top Member
Krabbenburger wrote on 05.03.2021 at 20:02: In principle, this can hit you in any Malta licensed casino, as it is a requirement of the MGA .
Some make it easy and others make it unnecessarily complicated and withhold the payout.
I also think it makes a lot of sense that casinos get deductions in their rating if they abuse the process to withhold payouts.
According to the MGA, a Source of Wealh check must be performed from an accumulated Deposit amount of € 2,000. So if one has deposited in total over several small deposits more than 2,000 € within a year.

Who is interested in the topic here is the original document of the MGA in English:

https://www.mga.org.mt/wp-content/uploads/Implementing-Procedures-Part-II_Remote-Gaming.pdf

Good to know. According to this, there is rather a violation of the casino, if calmly 25k
is deposited, for example. With loss for the player, one has so completely comfortably 25 k silently
can pocket, although from 2000 the CDD examination is prescribed. But now it
not gone well for the casino, there the 2000-limit/a comes to their mind again. Interesting.
Is something for a complaint to the MGA. Serious goes differently. In the normal case the player would have
a large part of his money, so everything is gone, because of omitted CDD.

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evopower140
Expert
Yes with Platin it is so that is really hard can with me they have asked at 18 K LOL but that make others also. So what I have to say who is very serious Wildz the announce the pay out and then you have to re-verify with asset proofs

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Falke
Expert
We should list all casinos that require such here and then avoid them all together.

Somewhere there is also a limit. One sends already sensitive data for Verification, but then seriously demand a very precise proof of income, that sometimes even goes so far that family members must bring proof of where they got the money that they have lent, etc.. Seriously, where is the limit of what one is willing to accept?

And in most cases it is nothing more than extortion. You Deposit 10k and lose without any problems. Then you win 1k and suddenly that is demanded? If one would approach it logically, they would have to get back the complete deposits of everyone who can't prove where he got the money from.
Or does it mean that the casino keeps money that they have to assume is illegal in case of suspicion? What does that make the casino then?

I would never send them anything about my income

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NoBonusUser
Rookie
Falke wrote on 07/03/2021 at 14:53: We should list all the casinos that require such here and then avoid them all together.

There is a limit somewhere. One sends already sensitive data for Verification, but then seriously demand a very precise proof of income, that sometimes even goes so far that family members must bring proof of where they have the money that they have lent etc. Seriously, where is the limit of what one is willing to accept?

And in most cases it is nothing more than extortion. You Deposit 10k and lose without any problems. Then you win 1k and suddenly that is demanded? If one would approach it logically, they would have to get back the complete deposits of everyone who can't prove where he got the money from.
Or does it mean that the casino keeps money that they have to assume is illegal in case of suspicion? What does that make the casino then?

I would never send them anything about my income.

Very well brought to the point! Exactly my view! 👍👍

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gamble1
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Falke wrote on 07/03/2021 at 14:53: We should list all the casinos that require such here and then avoid them all together.

There is a limit somewhere. One sends already sensitive data for Verification, but then seriously demand a very precise proof of income, that sometimes even goes so far that family members must bring proof of where they have the money that they have lent etc. Seriously, where is the limit of what one is willing to accept?

And in most cases it is nothing more than extortion. You Deposit 10k and lose without any problems. Then you win 1k and suddenly that is demanded? If one would approach it logically, they would have to get back the complete deposits of everyone who can't prove where he got the money from.
Or does it mean that the casino keeps money that they have to assume is illegal in case of suspicion? What does that make the casino then?

I would never send them anything about my income.

Sounds really logical, I agree with you because the logical consequence is that if someone does not prove it, the contract is invalid because the casino can not be sure that the money was earned legally and therefore can not enrich themselves with it

Someone should show his Poker face and try to say to a casino "So guys either you pay out my money now without the proof or you refund me all deposits because it could be illegal money"

Would be interesting what comes then

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