We are looking for online casinos with good & fair bonus offers
5th Oct. 2017, at 10:06 pm CEST#1
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The bonus turnover conditions in Online Casinos are getting worse, more unfair and are sometimes close to fraud. In principle, the turnover conditions were already relatively unfair in the past, when you had to convert the bonus in almost all online casinos only 30x - 60x and otherwise had to fulfill no other conditions. These were "unfair" for the mass of players, but if you were lucky, then you knew that you would be able to convert the bonus and then withdraw it without any problems
Nowadays, these conditions are usually riddled with traps, such as the €5 Maxbet rule, which almost every casino has in its terms and conditions. The problem with this rule is that if players win and then naturally play with more than €5 per spin, the bonus and the winnings are confiscated. Most of the time this happens to inexperienced players. In my eyes, these "traps" are harmful to the entire industry and extremely annoying, painful or sad for all players who are affected.
We are therefore looking for online casinos, which are not listed on GambleJoe, have a gambling license within Europe (UK, Gibraltar, Isle of Man, Malta, Alderny) and whose Bonuses are still fair and simple. The following criteria should be met:
Turnover maximum 50x bonus or 35x bonus + deposit.
No €5 Maxbet rule and if it exists, it must be designed in such a way that players get a hint (clearly) or playing on stakes larger than €5 is not possible during the bonus turnover. A good example is the online casino Videoslots
No winnings limits like almost all Novoline casinos, where you can only withdraw 2 to 5 times the Deposit amount when playing with bonus.
No other bullshit rules which can prove to be traps for players (experienced or inexperienced).
Anyone who has come across such good online casinos, please report here. We take a close look at the providers and consider whether we will list them - provided there are no other serious negative features.
I thank you for your help and hope that we can possibly exert long-term pressure on the casinos, so that they again offer better or fairer bonuses or even completely renounce bonus offers.
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6th Oct. 2017, at 12:30 am CEST#2
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As I said, take a look at the Kaboo.com casino. I think it's fair that the FS you can buy with your credits - or the relics that give credits or cash are completely free of turnover - just like at Videoslots. Bonus conditions are also relatively normal - but depending on the bonus you have different. But the presentation of the site, especially how you get the relics is the hammer!
We are looking for online casinos with good & fair bonus offers
6th Oct. 2017, at 02:41 am CEST#3
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I have already noted. Will check
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6th Oct. 2017, at 12:42 pm CEST#4
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I signed up there and looked at that. So the turnover requirement of the 100% bonus do not stand out from the others. Many games excluded and 40 x convert...
How quickly do you get relicts? Even if you play with small stakes?
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6th Oct. 2017, at 10:11 pm CEST#5
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Well the higher you get the longer the relicts last ... I think 50€ deposited and played with 20-50 cents ... the next. Day I had then equal to 3 pieces. You see it above at the level.
BTW Daniel:
First payout 400€ today requested 2 std - stood first on pending - meanwhile on processed. So within 2 std processed. Since I pay out on the CC is probably next week until the money is to see. But is in order.
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7th Oct. 2017, at 04:55 am CEST#6
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Are there any other casinos with good and fair bonus offers?
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7th Oct. 2017, at 06:34 am CEST#7
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Voodoodreams has a similar principle as Kaboo with the Relics, you get points when you play. With enough points, there is even turnover-free cash. Highrollers can even get several 1000 EUR simply as a gift, if they have upgraded their account. Withdrawals are also fast, sometimes in minutes, average is 6 minutes with Ewallets. For higher sums, however, it can take 1-2 days.
Can not say anything negative about the casino.
At Krooncasino (belongs to Betsson) the Welcome bonus is only 15X WR. But I have never played there, because Betsson blocked, otherwise I would have dared it.Maxbet 6 EUR.
• Players who make a Deposit with Skrill or Neteller are excluded from receiving this deposit bonus.
• The Casino Welcome bonus has to be wagered 15x within 90 days before the bonus can be released and paid out. After 90 days the bonus expires automatically and irrevocably.
• The maximum stake allowed when having an active bonus is €6 (Or Currency Equivalent) per game round or 50 eurocents (Or Currency Equivalent) per line and any bets placed above this limit may result in account closure and forfeit of any winnings derived throughout and following wagering of the bonus.
• Any withdrawals made prior to full completion of bonus wagering may result in full forfeit of the bonus as well as any accumulated funds and winnings from the bonus and deposit used to trigger/credit the bonus.
• If you would like to read more about our Bonus Conditions, please click on the Bonus FAQ tab in the navigation bar and select Bonus FAQ Casino.
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7th Oct. 2017, at 09:09 am CEST#8
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Thanks for the suggestions but VoodooDreams as well as Kaboo and Krooncasino have this 5€-rule and 6€-rule respectively in their T&C's.
There are the good and fair Bonuses without traps, such as VideoSlots, sunmaker, sunnyplayer or Mr Green to name a few positive examples.
As I said, VideoSlots also has the €5 rule, but everything is done to ensure that players cannot violate these turnover requirements. Thus, wagers over €5 are not allowed at all while the bonus is being wagered ...
We are desperately looking for such reputable Online Casinos
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7th Oct. 2017, at 01:07 pm CEST#9
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Bonuses should be avoided at all costs. I remember having converted the bonus 80 times and in the end my win was not paid out. It is not for nothing that the terms and conditions often state that the casino is entitled to cancel a bonus at any time. In the terms and conditions, the whole thing is formulated so that the casinos are usually in the right, in the case of a payout. Therefore, a well-intentioned Tip to you not to claim a bonus, even if the turnover condition seems so tempting
Through the experiences of others in forums, the whole thing is becoming more and more obvious, which I also find good. Ultimately, the casinos harm themselves by luring with Bonuses and in the end only harass and thus probably lose valuable customers...and that are certainly not a few. The management should be clear about it and rethink the whole thing
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8th Oct. 2017, at 11:43 pm CEST#10
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Small comment.
The cash gifts at VoodooDreams, if you redeem them...but hard to reach, especially at high level...are gift real money. The maximum price is at level 10 for 10 million SP 3,280 EUR. The money is completely revenue free and a real money gift. Mind you, there are many smaller levels, e.g. at low level 14 EUR for 250.000 SP.
You must always look at the Spirit Magic spells, the others bring nothing, the usual bonus junk.
A medium player will easily reach the bonus level after an acceptable time, the high Bonuses are for highrollers who play a lot. But even there, with a lot of patience you can get far. You have to save up your SP, which you get for every game and when you bet only 1 cent, and never redeem them for anything else except the Spirit Magic spells.
"This spell doesn't require any terms and conditions. You will receive real money" it says.
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Nowadays, these conditions are usually riddled with traps, such as the €5 Maxbet rule, which almost every casino has in its terms and conditions. The problem with this rule is that if players win and then naturally play with more than €5 per spin, the bonus and the winnings are confiscated. Most of the time this happens to inexperienced players. In my eyes, these "traps" are harmful to the entire industry and extremely annoying, painful or sad for all players who are affected.
We are therefore looking for online casinos, which are not listed on GambleJoe, have a gambling license within Europe (UK, Gibraltar, Isle of Man, Malta, Alderny) and whose Bonuses are still fair and simple. The following criteria should be met:
Anyone who has come across such good online casinos, please report here. We take a close look at the providers and consider whether we will list them - provided there are no other serious negative features.
I thank you for your help and hope that we can possibly exert long-term pressure on the casinos, so that they again offer better or fairer bonuses or even completely renounce bonus offers.
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How quickly do you get relicts? Even if you play with small stakes?
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BTW Daniel:
First payout 400€ today requested 2 std - stood first on pending - meanwhile on processed. So within 2 std processed. Since I pay out on the CC is probably next week until the money is to see. But is in order.
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We are looking for online casinos with good & fair bonus offers
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We are looking for online casinos with good & fair bonus offers
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Can not say anything negative about the casino.
At Krooncasino (belongs to Betsson) the Welcome bonus is only 15X WR. But I have never played there, because Betsson blocked, otherwise I would have dared it.Maxbet 6 EUR.
• Players who make a Deposit with Skrill or Neteller are excluded from receiving this deposit bonus.
• The Casino Welcome bonus has to be wagered 15x within 90 days before the bonus can be released and paid out. After 90 days the bonus expires automatically and irrevocably.
• The maximum stake allowed when having an active bonus is €6 (Or Currency Equivalent) per game round or 50 eurocents (Or Currency Equivalent) per line and any bets placed above this limit may result in account closure and forfeit of any winnings derived throughout and following wagering of the bonus.
• Any withdrawals made prior to full completion of bonus wagering may result in full forfeit of the bonus as well as any accumulated funds and winnings from the bonus and deposit used to trigger/credit the bonus.
• If you would like to read more about our Bonus Conditions, please click on the Bonus FAQ tab in the navigation bar and select Bonus FAQ Casino.
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We are looking for online casinos with good & fair bonus offers
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There are the good and fair Bonuses without traps, such as VideoSlots, sunmaker, sunnyplayer or Mr Green to name a few positive examples.
As I said, VideoSlots also has the €5 rule, but everything is done to ensure that players cannot violate these turnover requirements. Thus, wagers over €5 are not allowed at all while the bonus is being wagered ...
We are desperately looking for such reputable Online Casinos
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We are looking for online casinos with good & fair bonus offers
Nobody has liked this post so far
Through the experiences of others in forums, the whole thing is becoming more and more obvious, which I also find good. Ultimately, the casinos harm themselves by luring with Bonuses and in the end only harass and thus probably lose valuable customers...and that are certainly not a few. The management should be clear about it and rethink the whole thing
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We are looking for online casinos with good & fair bonus offers
Nobody has liked this post so far
The cash gifts at VoodooDreams, if you redeem them...but hard to reach, especially at high level...are gift real money. The maximum price is at level 10 for 10 million SP 3,280 EUR. The money is completely revenue free and a real money gift. Mind you, there are many smaller levels, e.g. at low level 14 EUR for 250.000 SP.
You must always look at the Spirit Magic spells, the others bring nothing, the usual bonus junk.
A medium player will easily reach the bonus level after an acceptable time, the high Bonuses are for highrollers who play a lot. But even there, with a lot of patience you can get far. You have to save up your SP, which you get for every game and when you bet only 1 cent, and never redeem them for anything else except the Spirit Magic spells.
"This spell doesn't require any terms and conditions. You will receive real money" it says.
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