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Players recruit players ? Request to the admins and members !
9th Mar. 2018, at 07:04 pm CET#1
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Dear forum members, I have thought about it and would like to ask everyone, but primarily the admins of the forum, whether it would be of interest to create a kind of players recruit players section here.
Background is the following:
Many players, including myself, are registered in several casinos and the casinos offer partly compensation if you recruit a new player.
Of course I know that the site operators here also forward to the respective casinos and of course get a commission, which should be, so that money comes in to further expand the forum and so that the beautiful PSC - lotteries can be made.
Nevertheless, there may also be players who have their own Affiliate account at some casino and would like to earn something for a recommendation.
You could make it so according to the motto:
A player offers here: Anyone who signs up through my reflink, I give 20 euros.
Or: Every tenth person who registers via my link gets a 100 Euro PSC.
So quasi that there are lotteries or promotions from user to user.
Of course, then without guarantee, so if a casino should not pay out, then the site operators can not do anything for it.
I would be interested in the opinion of all here...... ...
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9th Mar. 2018, at 07:11 pm CET#2
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I find firstly: almost everyone is in the common stores anyway already
Well and I think lotteries etc should only run through admins Everything else could lead to problems
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9th Mar. 2018, at 07:43 pm CET#3
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You are actually answering your own question! The whole thing would harm GJ. *my opinion
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9th Mar. 2018, at 07:46 pm CET#5
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To be honest I don't really understand the sense behind it,
i mean that would be like if I walk into the nearest McDonald's Fialle to then build their own stand where I sell my own burgers.
Especially since the whole thing is not so easy to implement... after all, you need your own business in the end to be able to pay tax on your commission that you earn in the Affilliate area.
And on the other hand, I do not really understand the concept in general what it would bring you yourself...
The 20€ or even the 100€ you would promise someone, would have to be achieved first... you get money for no new customer who basically leaves no money in the casino.... Say even if he the Versprochene 20€ that you pay him, directly in the casino would Deposit and lose... you would get only a Hauch-teil of it as a commission... which you would have to additionally still tax...
so if this would read Peter Zwegat... the would totally go nuts
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9th Mar. 2018, at 09:13 pm CET#6
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This is the main source of income from this service Provider here gj and if they would allow something like that it would end up only spam and people who want to pick up wad... For the operators who would be the ruin and the end. If you want to become an Affiliate tuh but like everyone else hard it is not.
You should always remember that the administrator also want to earn money and higerollenðŸ˜' but that must be paid kinnas^^
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9th Mar. 2018, at 09:15 pm CET#7
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In my opinion, this would rather harm gamblejoe and would be counterproductiov for the site. All in all, it's great how it works. Gamblejoe gives the players here even PSC of their win again. There is no need to try Gamblejoe a few euros in commission to take away the already anyway give a part to the community again
I mean do you know another site that does this? No because Gamblejoe are the only ones with this model. Just the thought of this is suspicious to me if I'm honest (my subjective opinion)
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10th Mar. 2018, at 11:21 am CET#8
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Hammerdammer wrote on 09/03/2018 at 21:15: In my opinion this would rather harm gamblejoe and would be counterproductiov for the site. All in all, it's great the way it's going. Gamblejoe even gives the players here PSC back from their win. There is no need to try to take away a few euros in commission from Gamblejoe, which already give back a part to the community
I mean do you know another site that does this? No because Gamblejoe are the only ones with this model. Just the thought of this is suspicious to me if I'm honest (my subjective opinion)
I must underline that, I was also a mod in a forum which is unfortunately long gone. From there we knew Gamblejoe, we had never offered something like this on the contrary... Some users were "VIP" and had to pay 5 € in month, so we had to refinance our server.
Other forums offer even more awesome models and are fixated on somehow "money" reinzuholen zb by advertisements, pop ups insertions, etc..
Here, on the other hand, you give depending on activity PSC cards which I find very awesome, without somehow registering with a particular site or to qualify....
greetings
Tropper
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10th Mar. 2018, at 11:25 am CET#9
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Hey tropper were in the same forum
Was there also mod
So we meet again
Greetings
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10th Mar. 2018, at 03:18 pm CET#10
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Peter8 wrote on 10/03/2018 at 11:25: Hey tropper were in the same forum
Was there also mod
So you meet again
So small is the gambling world
So here sign up also constantly other affiliates spamming here any reflinks without posting a gescheiten content. Or post any reflinks after 1-2 reasonably good contributions. This is called spam. If we would allow that, then everyone would come and link here (partly determined also unserious casinos) and then this would be the spammigste forum, which one could imagine.
You could make it so that only members from a certain number of points may do so publicly here, if it is casinos that we do not promote anyway and at least have an EU license. That would possibly still justifiable but I also see that very critically and I would have to think about it intensively. So currently still no, that we can not allow! But maybe I can think of something. Basically, I would like to support active members who offer us added value as much as possible, if the site does not suffer and everyone has something from it.
You could make it so according to the motto:
A player offers here: Anyone who signs up through my reflink, I'll give him 20 euros.
Or: Every tenth person who registers via my link gets a 100 Euro PSC.
I don't know how this works with the player recruit player. But I think that the recruiter gets a share of the loss of the player (let's say 20%). Sometimes you recruit players who win - it happens more often than you think. For example, if you refer a player who wins 10,000€ and the account goes 2,000€ in the red, it can take a very, very long time until the account is back in the black and the referrer earns money - no matter how many players he refers. We have really experienced everything in this area (where we still worked with rev-share and not with CPA (one-time payment)). For example, we sent 30 players to a casino every month and didn't earn a cent for 8 months in a row.
So the advertiser does not necessarily have to earn money that he can give away. By the way, it is also forbidden to recruit players in this way. So you can't give any player 20€ if he signs up via the reflink and create an incentive this way. The casino would (justifiably) make problems and not pay out the referrer. And this is how casinos find out. For example, if you recruit 20 players and everyone deposits with PSC or everyone deposits the same amount, etc ...
Then you have to ask yourself the question whether a player is really also worth 20€ (or so quickly times 20€ is worth). The whole thing might be tight (according to experience). You do not get 20% of the losses as commission, but 20% of the net profit (what the casino earns) credited as commission. Example (recruited player pays 100€ and loses):
Gross Revenue = 100€
- Sales tax = 19€
- other costs (game manufacturer, admin fees, Bonuses, bank transaction fees, etc.) = 26€
Net Revenue = 55€
From the 55€ you get 20% = 11€ commission (11% net commission).
If you do it commercially, then you also pay taxes and social security contributions from the 11€ and you are left with (depending on the tax rate) between 6€ and 7.50€. You do it commercially if you have a profit-making intention and do this regularly and not just times a few friends recruits.
So 20€ per player would be financially risky and also not allowed by the casinos.
We have the first 3 years of GambleJoe players on rev-share basis recruited and a player was worth after 3 years on average between 70 and 75 euros (at 35% average commission). Just to give you a rough idea. And at that time, no sales tax was charged by the casinos. The players do not only lose, but also win, change casinos, test Casinso only with 1x 10€ and now and then it even happens that a player deposits 10€ and wins say 30,000€, pulls the account for many months into the red and never comes back. Especially if you recruit few players for only one casino, you have a high risk. It can go there times well up but also times derb down (is just in a way also gambling).
So we can not allow that out of self-interest but also in the interest of the community (spam) at the moment. But maybe we can think of something in this regard. You can of course advertise your friends privately, in the chat here. But please only if these are really your friends with whom you write regularly and the friend is not annoyed by it. If someone spreads senseless spam in the forum (also via private messages), then the person can also be banned here on GambleJoe.
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Background is the following:
Many players, including myself, are registered in several casinos and the casinos offer partly compensation if you recruit a new player.
Of course I know that the site operators here also forward to the respective casinos and of course get a commission, which should be, so that money comes in to further expand the forum and so that the beautiful PSC - lotteries can be made.
Nevertheless, there may also be players who have their own Affiliate account at some casino and would like to earn something for a recommendation.
You could make it so according to the motto:
A player offers here: Anyone who signs up through my reflink, I give 20 euros.
Or: Every tenth person who registers via my link gets a 100 Euro PSC.
So quasi that there are lotteries or promotions from user to user.
Of course, then without guarantee, so if a casino should not pay out, then the site operators can not do anything for it.
I would be interested in the opinion of all here...... ...
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Well and I think lotteries etc should only run through admins Everything else could lead to problems
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see already that I would then always be the 9th
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i mean that would be like if I walk into the nearest McDonald's Fialle to then build their own stand where I sell my own burgers.
Especially since the whole thing is not so easy to implement... after all, you need your own business in the end to be able to pay tax on your commission that you earn in the Affilliate area.
And on the other hand, I do not really understand the concept in general what it would bring you yourself...
The 20€ or even the 100€ you would promise someone, would have to be achieved first... you get money for no new customer who basically leaves no money in the casino.... Say even if he the Versprochene 20€ that you pay him, directly in the casino would Deposit and lose... you would get only a Hauch-teil of it as a commission... which you would have to additionally still tax...
so if this would read Peter Zwegat... the would totally go nuts
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Players recruit players ? Request to the admins and members !
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You should always remember that the administrator also want to earn money and higerollenðŸ˜' but that must be paid kinnas^^
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Players recruit players ? Request to the admins and members !
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I mean do you know another site that does this? No because Gamblejoe are the only ones with this model. Just the thought of this is suspicious to me if I'm honest (my subjective opinion)
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Players recruit players ? Request to the admins and members !
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I must underline that, I was also a mod in a forum which is unfortunately long gone. From there we knew Gamblejoe, we had never offered something like this on the contrary... Some users were "VIP" and had to pay 5 € in month, so we had to refinance our server.
Other forums offer even more awesome models and are fixated on somehow "money" reinzuholen zb by advertisements, pop ups insertions, etc..
Here, on the other hand, you give depending on activity PSC cards which I find very awesome, without somehow registering with a particular site or to qualify....
greetings
Tropper
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Players recruit players ? Request to the admins and members !
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Was there also mod
So we meet again
Greetings
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Players recruit players ? Request to the admins and members !
Nobody has liked this post so far
So small is the gambling world
So here sign up also constantly other affiliates spamming here any reflinks without posting a gescheiten content. Or post any reflinks after 1-2 reasonably good contributions. This is called spam. If we would allow that, then everyone would come and link here (partly determined also unserious casinos) and then this would be the spammigste forum, which one could imagine.
You could make it so that only members from a certain number of points may do so publicly here, if it is casinos that we do not promote anyway and at least have an EU license. That would possibly still justifiable but I also see that very critically and I would have to think about it intensively. So currently still no, that we can not allow! But maybe I can think of something. Basically, I would like to support active members who offer us added value as much as possible, if the site does not suffer and everyone has something from it.
I don't know how this works with the player recruit player. But I think that the recruiter gets a share of the loss of the player (let's say 20%). Sometimes you recruit players who win - it happens more often than you think. For example, if you refer a player who wins 10,000€ and the account goes 2,000€ in the red, it can take a very, very long time until the account is back in the black and the referrer earns money - no matter how many players he refers. We have really experienced everything in this area (where we still worked with rev-share and not with CPA (one-time payment)). For example, we sent 30 players to a casino every month and didn't earn a cent for 8 months in a row.
So the advertiser does not necessarily have to earn money that he can give away. By the way, it is also forbidden to recruit players in this way. So you can't give any player 20€ if he signs up via the reflink and create an incentive this way. The casino would (justifiably) make problems and not pay out the referrer. And this is how casinos find out. For example, if you recruit 20 players and everyone deposits with PSC or everyone deposits the same amount, etc ...
Then you have to ask yourself the question whether a player is really also worth 20€ (or so quickly times 20€ is worth). The whole thing might be tight (according to experience). You do not get 20% of the losses as commission, but 20% of the net profit (what the casino earns) credited as commission. Example (recruited player pays 100€ and loses):
Gross Revenue = 100€
- Sales tax = 19€
- other costs (game manufacturer, admin fees, Bonuses, bank transaction fees, etc.) = 26€
Net Revenue = 55€
From the 55€ you get 20% = 11€ commission (11% net commission).
If you do it commercially, then you also pay taxes and social security contributions from the 11€ and you are left with (depending on the tax rate) between 6€ and 7.50€. You do it commercially if you have a profit-making intention and do this regularly and not just times a few friends recruits.
So 20€ per player would be financially risky and also not allowed by the casinos.
We have the first 3 years of GambleJoe players on rev-share basis recruited and a player was worth after 3 years on average between 70 and 75 euros (at 35% average commission). Just to give you a rough idea. And at that time, no sales tax was charged by the casinos. The players do not only lose, but also win, change casinos, test Casinso only with 1x 10€ and now and then it even happens that a player deposits 10€ and wins say 30,000€, pulls the account for many months into the red and never comes back. Especially if you recruit few players for only one casino, you have a high risk. It can go there times well up but also times derb down (is just in a way also gambling).
So we can not allow that out of self-interest but also in the interest of the community (spam) at the moment. But maybe we can think of something in this regard. You can of course advertise your friends privately, in the chat here. But please only if these are really your friends with whom you write regularly and the friend is not annoyed by it. If someone spreads senseless spam in the forum (also via private messages), then the person can also be banned here on GambleJoe.
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