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Bonus & offers: Online Casino T&C's Vague

Topic created on 29th Sep. 2021 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 6 | Views: 1,566
SüchtigerDepp
Dear Community,

i just registered to come up with a question that may not have been asked before. Short and sweet. If I make a Deposit with a bonus and make a "Bonus Buy", but the "stake" is say 20 cents, do I violate the "5€" rule? Rule of the turnover requirements? The case has occurred and I could have bitten me in the A**** that I have not looked in there before... "

  1. The maximum single bet with bonus credit while fulfilling the turnover requirements is €5. Players who wager in excess of this amount Risk losing all their wins."



However, I find vaguely worded... I understand it to mean the wager. If I buy on a bet for 25Cent the best free spins, for 87.50€, I am nevertheless still long under the 5€. Because my" bet amount " are still 25cent.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but thanks for reading and answering

Love greetings

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Klempo77
Expert
AddictDork wrote on 29/09/2021 at 20:57: Dear Community,

i just signed up freshly to come up with a question that may not have been asked before. Short and sweet. If I make a Deposit with bonus and make a "bonus buy" but its "wager" is say 20cents Am I then violating the "5€" Rule of the turnover requirements? The case has occurred and I could have bitten me in the A**** that I have not looked in there before... "

  1. The maximum single bet with bonus credit while fulfilling the turnover requirements is €5. Players who wager in excess of this amount Risk losing all their wins."



However, I find vaguely worded... I understand it to mean the wager. If I buy on a bet for 25Cent the best free spins, for 87.50€, I am nevertheless still long under the 5€. Because my" bet amount " are still 25cent.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but thanks for reading and answering

Love greetings

Not true so 😊

Your stake in bonuskauf is purchase price. In your example, 87,50€. So you are far above 5€ limit

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TWiSTeD
Top Member
especially since many providers do not allow you to buy free spins with bonus money. also, certain games are usually excluded. always study the bonus rules of the respective provider.

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SüchtigerDepp
Klempo77 wrote on 29/09/2021 at 21:08
Not so true 😊

Your stake in bonus purchase is purchase price. In your example, 87,50€. So you are well above 5€ limit.

Exactly! And just that, is not explained in the AGB's so. I talked to a lawyer who sees it similarly. An unclearly defined clause, which "could" be challenged. Let's see how far we come, the 1st instance costs nothing. (Legal protection regulates). Wishes me luck

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Falke
Expert
AddictDork wrote on 01/10/2021 at 17:57
Exactly! And just that, is not so explained in the AGB's. Have once talked to a lawyer who sees it similarly. An unclearly defined clause, which "could" be challenged. Let's see how far we come, the 1st instance costs nothing. (Legal protection regulates). Wish me luck

There you can not challenge anything. Especially Online Casinos are generally a very hot spot in Germany. And as if ever a German judge would have the expertise for such a topic as bonus purchase.

If that would really go through, you would even have to call in an expert to whom the judge can then refer. That would cost a lot of money and in such a case your legal protection Insurance would not cover anything.
As if they would ever pay a case where it is about you suing for a more or less illegal behavior on your part.

Ask your legal protection insurance if they will sue your Dealer because he used a manipulated gram scale and the substance did not have the purity level you were promised. Some people have ideas

I can already imagine the scene when your lawyer gives his closing argument in front of the jury:

Dear judges, dear jurors, we have now put all the facts on the table in a trial lasting several weeks. The bonus purchase at 87.50 is clearly valid with the 25 cent stake. The other side wants to convince you that this is not the case and that there is a bonus violation. Look my client deep in the eyes and ask yourself, is this man entitled to the win of 154.30 or not? Yes, dear jurors, on the one hand we are dealing with an unscrupulous company that offers its terms and conditions only in English so that the majority of players do not understand them, and on the other hand we have my client, a person like you and me, who mows the lawn in the morning, goes to church on Sundays and in the evening wants to recover from a stressful day at work and unsuspectingly buys bonuses. It could have happened to you, it could have happened to anyone. If you award him the money then there is still injustice in this world. But you, dear jurors, dear fellow citizens, you have then given my client confidence in our constitutional state again. I thank you for listening and I trust that you will make the right decision

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Chrizzi
Experienced
However, I find vaguely formulated... I understand it as the bet. If I buy on a bet for 25Cent the best free spins, for 87.50€, I am still long under the 5€. Because my" bet amount " are still 25cent.


If you buy on a bet 0,25ct free spins for 87,50

Then you bet only the 0.25ct?

I will be honest. That's too high for me too.
Nevertheless, good luck and thank you Falke


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SüchtigerDepp
Falcon wrote on 02/10/2021 at 00:41 PM
You can't dispute anything there. Especially Online Casinos are generally a very hot spot in Germany. And as if ever a German judge would have the expertise for such a topic as bonus purchase.

If that would really go through, you would even have to call in an expert to whom the judge can then refer. That would cost a lot of money and in such a case your legal protection Insurance would not cover anything.
As if they would ever pay a case where it is about you suing for a more or less illegal behavior on your part.

Ask your legal protection insurance if they will sue your Dealer because he used a manipulated gram scale and the substance did not have the purity level you were promised. Some people have ideas

I can already imagine the scene when your lawyer gives his closing argument in front of the jury:

Dear judges, dear jurors, we have now put all the facts on the table in a trial lasting several weeks. The bonus purchase at 87.50 is clearly valid with the 25 cent stake. The other side wants to convince you that this is not the case and that there is a bonus violation. Look my client deep in the eyes and ask yourself, is this man entitled to the win of 154.30 or not? Yes, dear jurors, on the one hand we are dealing with an unscrupulous company that offers its terms and conditions only in English so that the majority of players do not understand them, and on the other hand we have my client, a person like you and me, who mows the lawn in the morning, goes to church on Sundays and in the evening wants to recover from a stressful day at work and unsuspectingly buys bonuses. It could have happened to you, it could have happened to anyone. If you award him the money then there is still injustice in this world. But you, dear jurors, dear fellow citizens, you have then given my client confidence in our constitutional state again. I thank you for listening and I trust that you will make the right decision.

I had to laugh a bit if I am honest, unfortunately it was a payout of 13,000x a little over 3000 euros. That scratches of course already. Well again something for the future learned!
Thanks for your contribution Falke

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