Unfortunately I had to make the bad experience at LVBet with the Welcome bonus 100%.
Have deposited and immediately played high and after a few hours I was at 7000 Eur.
Thought of course wow beautiful I let me pay out the same.
Then came the bösse awakening: according to the terms and conditions may not exceed the stake in the bonus 5 euros.
But since I had turned at 10 euros and had also won me was canceled short hand simply the 7000 euros.
As I see the terms and conditions all well and good but then they would have to adapt the game and accept max 5 euro stakes only.
Maybe someone has already made experience with this?
I have now called a lawyer even if I do not really believe in success but let's try it.
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6th Jun. 2017, at 11:38 am CEST#2
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Well - to be honest ... you know that with Bonuses definitely always a max bet per spin/or line is given. Do not understand how one wants to come there with a lawyer ...
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Akaris is right
This clause has existed for years and even if you have never played (which I do not assume with you) are such cases again and again in the forums.
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hmm furthermore, Online Casinos are illegal in Germany. unless you live in Schleswig Holstein and the casino is registered there..but even if ... AGBs are AGBs will tell you every judge .
Online casinos (with seat and proper license in Europe) are not illegal! I have already mentioned reasons for this in this thread.
That with the betting limits during the bonus conversion is in my opinion a bad practice, which is however applied by very many casinos. What this regulation is there for is still a mystery to me. It makes no sense to me.
Of course, nowadays it is known (among experienced players) that there is this betting limit of (mostly 5€) but for inexperienced players this is still a trap. No one reads through T&C's and casinos should clearly point out such regulations! Also the Wunderino Casino has this stupid regulation but at least they point it out clearly to players.
A lawyer is usually not necessary in cases of conflict with casinos, but it is enough to file a complaint with the MGA (Malta Gaming Authority) or another competent regulatory authority. In this case, however, the casino is LEIDER in the right and the MGA would dismiss the case. Even a lawyer can do little here.
Basically, before accepting a bonus, you should read and understand the bonus conditions and in case of doubt, it is better to do without the bonus.
You can unfortunately do nothing but write off the profit LEIDER . What you can do is write an objective review about LVbet here on GambleJoe and mention this negative point clearly.
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7th Jun. 2017, at 08:59 am CEST#6
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Online gambling is allowed in the EU but not in Germany so you would have to go to the European Court of Justice in case of dispute...you are welcome to sue in Germany in reference to an online casino...every lawyer will laugh at you.There are also, for example, countless posts on the Internet about credit card chargebacks of 13 months...or PayPal chargebacks.... and there is no one goes to court ... they just write off their money... if it were all so legal they would still sue their money in court.there are many casinos that do not offer Paypal for German but for all other customers what simply has to do with our gambling law and the associated possibilities of enforceability...
locke2kk wrote on 07.06.2017 at 08:59 clock: Online gambling is allowed in the EU but not in Germany so you would have to move in case of dispute before the European Court of Justice..you can times like to sue in Germany in reference to an online casino... every lawyer will laugh at you.There are eg also countless contributions on the Internet about credit card chargebacks of 13 months.. or PayPal chargebacks ... and there is no one goes to court ... they just write off their money... if it were all so legal they would sue for their money in court.There are many casinos that do not offer Paypal for German but for all other customers what simply has to do with our gambling law and the associated possibilities of enforceability...
PayPal only allows casinos licensed in Schleswig-Holstein to accept payments from German players. See https://www.schleswig-holstein.de/DE/Fachinhalte/G/gluecksspiel/_documents/onlineCasinospiele.html
That thus also the Malta offshoots of these casinos accept the PP payments is probably a small loophole ...
Is funny, because at some providers the PP payment is handled through agencies, or at StarGames, Quasar etc. in my opinion through Greentube...?! Wunderino would also be an example of this, they themselves have no SH license but have the payments processed through partner companies.
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7th Jun. 2017, at 04:19 pm CEST#8
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How exactly that is with PayPal I do not know, but there are more than enough examples where Paypal has waived 5 digit sums.After the customer has reversed the money and had invoked illegal gambling, Paypal has never sued.Really never, probably they are afraid if they lose, they can then no longer offer Paypal.Furthermore, in the case of chargebacks also not Paypal has the damage but the casinos themselves, so I just think times that there are more good than black sheep and that's why you also offer Paypal
By illegal, I also meant for the players. Online Casinos have been offered since the late 90s, millions have played and so far only one player was convicted by a Ranzamtsgericht. The state court has overturned the verdict, however, and thus the player got his winnings back tax-free.
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I did not know that with the 5 € regulation and it came me also expensive to stand, this regulation is really only to press from a payment because it makes no sense otherwise. I press you the fingers that you get your money yet somehow. Clear to me that LVBet is also removed from my list of casinos.
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Unfortunately I had to make the bad experience at LVBet with the Welcome bonus 100%.
Have deposited and immediately played high and after a few hours I was at 7000 Eur.
Thought of course wow beautiful I let me pay out the same.
Then came the bösse awakening: according to the terms and conditions may not exceed the stake in the bonus 5 euros.
But since I had turned at 10 euros and had also won me was canceled short hand simply the 7000 euros.
As I see the terms and conditions all well and good but then they would have to adapt the game and accept max 5 euro stakes only.
Maybe someone has already made experience with this?
I have now called a lawyer even if I do not really believe in success but let's try it.
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This clause has existed for years and even if you have never played (which I do not assume with you) are such cases again and again in the forums.
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That with the betting limits during the bonus conversion is in my opinion a bad practice, which is however applied by very many casinos. What this regulation is there for is still a mystery to me. It makes no sense to me.
Of course, nowadays it is known (among experienced players) that there is this betting limit of (mostly 5€) but for inexperienced players this is still a trap. No one reads through T&C's and casinos should clearly point out such regulations! Also the Wunderino Casino has this stupid regulation but at least they point it out clearly to players.
A lawyer is usually not necessary in cases of conflict with casinos, but it is enough to file a complaint with the MGA (Malta Gaming Authority) or another competent regulatory authority. In this case, however, the casino is LEIDER in the right and the MGA would dismiss the case. Even a lawyer can do little here.
Basically, before accepting a bonus, you should read and understand the bonus conditions and in case of doubt, it is better to do without the bonus.
You can unfortunately do nothing but write off the profit LEIDER . What you can do is write an objective review about LVbet here on GambleJoe and mention this negative point clearly.
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PayPal only allows casinos licensed in Schleswig-Holstein to accept payments from German players. See https://www.schleswig-holstein.de/DE/Fachinhalte/G/gluecksspiel/_documents/onlineCasinospiele.html
That thus also the Malta offshoots of these casinos accept the PP payments is probably a small loophole ...
Is funny, because at some providers the PP payment is handled through agencies, or at StarGames, Quasar etc. in my opinion through Greentube...?! Wunderino would also be an example of this, they themselves have no SH license but have the payments processed through partner companies.
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