FREECASH.....funny site. I got a ref-link from a colleague and signed up with my old Yahoo address.
In the menu I was only shown a few games to "test" and I had to earn 20€/$ to be activated for premium content....I assume that the offerwalls would have come then.
My colleague said I had to log in with Gmail to have direct access to the offerwalls.
Said and done.... Offerwalls were there and I started "earning" money until the first payout was due. Verification with video selfie -> double account and banned.
I can understand that a double account is not wanted, but introducing a two-tier society is not OK. I did nothing wrong.... just wanted to use the offers from the Offerwalls and not earn 20€ on any games to unlock them. I hope you understand what I mean: Gmail address -> everything free
and another e-mail address -> earn 20€ first and show that you are worthy of us 🙄
On the whole also satisfied with Freecash.
Stuff from Offertoro, or Torox in the meantime, has not worked a few times. Their website is garbage, no way to open a complaint.
I'm also closing down Freecash completely and won't be making any game apps. I've also read that the tracking worked for some people and they were credited for the first 4 tasks, for example. For the last task, where you would have received €150 or more, you suddenly didn't get any more money and the ticket was rejected. I mean, how much do they want to take the p**s out of people?
When I write to Freecash, they tell me that it's not their fault. When I write to the casino, they tell me it's not their fault. So nobody is supposedly responsible.
Freecash makes the offers and is therefore responsible for them, no matter how much they try to cover up the fact that they are external providers.
And what exactly is Freecash Exclusive supposed to suggest other than that it is clearly an offer from Freecash? According to Freecash, they are not even responsible for it. It's all just a joke what's going on.
Can you actually speak of commercial fraud? An offer is made which is not kept. If Amazon only delivered 30% of the items paid for, Amazon would no longer exist. But with a dubious site like Freecash, it doesn't seem to be a problem.
They are also a German company (without German support ). Interesting when you consider that they advertise illegal casinos. I mean, Gamblejoe is no longer allowed to advertise illegal casinos, why can Freecash just do that? But that's not the point for me personally, I just find it interesting why they can do that and GGL doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
Anyway, I can only advise anyone not to do anything with Freecash. Yes, some offers work, but it's an absolute gamble and you end up investing a lot of time and money for nothing. As I said, 70% of the casinos didn't work for me.
Pat1991 wrote on 13.01.2024 at 18:29: The casinos I played in yesterday have not yet been credited to me. They still have 2-3 days, otherwise there will be tickets again.
The tickets won't get you anywhere either.
This is simply systematic fraud. If this happens several times for almost every user, then you can no longer speak of coincidence.
They pocket most of the money themselves and pay out a little to the users so that it's not quite so conspicuous.
No Affiliate would ever miss out on 70 % or even 20 %. They would immediately introduce a much better tracking procedure or something similar.
I'm really thinking about suing the crap store. It makes me so incredibly angry how companies can get away with such scams.
This is simply systematic fraud. If this happens several times to almost every user, then you can no longer speak of coincidence.
They pocket most of the money themselves and pay out a little to the users so that it's not quite so conspicuous.
No Affiliate would ever miss out on 70 % or even 20 %. They would immediately introduce a much better tracking procedure or something similar.
I'm really thinking about suing the crap store. It makes me so incredibly angry how companies can get away with such scams.
I'm currently working on a similar project, so maybe I'll be able to say more about it soon.
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This is simply systematic fraud. If this happens several times to almost every user, then you can no longer speak of coincidence.
They pocket most of the money themselves and pay out a little to the users so that it's not quite so conspicuous.
No Affiliate would ever miss out on 70 % or even 20 %. They would immediately introduce a much better tracking procedure or something similar.
I'm really thinking about suing the crap store. It makes me so incredibly angry how companies can get away with such scams.
i also think that the whole thing is a method. i got caught out straight away too - i had registered there ages ago, forgot about it, then dug up the account again through the thread here. but since i had already found a lot of posts about the arbitrary blocking of users in advance (reddit is generally a pretty good source, even if you want to know something about the offers - whether it's worth it or not, etc.), i just went for it.), i only collected a handful of euros and then requested a payout as a test. there was a technical problem with the Verification, asked support, did what they recommended and bam: blocked.
i don't care about the few euros now, but i thought exactly what you wrote at the time: they just pocket it and do so with intent.
firstly, by blocking accounts - they only need to do this for every 10th account: fresh accounts with small amounts if possible - that really adds up. as a user, you get annoyed, but if it's only a few euros, not enough to become active in any way.
and secondly, with the larger offers, simply don't pay out 3 out of 10 and shift the responsibility elsewhere. even then, only half of them will get upset, in most cases start one or two ticket attempts and then be worn down by the kafkaesque complaint cycle.
so that the number is not quite so conspicuous and there are always enough people who contribute a "so everything always runs smoothly for me", you leave soudnso many percent unscathed. you can easily automate this with an algorithm that calculates this and filters the accounts.
if you get up your nerve and sue them: i take my hat off. it really annoys me too, it's just such an unbelievably obvious rip-off - for all the reasons you mentioned - but it hasn't been enough to do more than write a few posts.
p.s. there is also cointiply, where everything has actually gone smoothly for me so far, but the offers are not as extensive and some of them pay much less. plus: of course, I may be one of the few unscathed sheep here, so it is only a very conditional recommendation.
WeWard App is just as fraudulent. They collect your data and sell it.
I bet that an estimated 90% of all apps that promise to make money are simply scams. Scam
There are now dozens of surveys where the same snot always comes out.
Swagbucks is one of the 10%, but I have no desire to constantly answer thousands of questions for 30 cents.
Collecting returnable bottles, on the other hand, is 100% worthwhile
Pat1991 wrote on 14.01.2024 at 16:06: And today: Still nothing. But then I can go to Offertoro and another club to complain. Meanwhile, almost 60 EUR went into the casinos Schlünde.
It will probably stay that way. Nothing is happening with me either and I have over €300 open and that's split between over 10 casinos. I also looked around on Reddit, there are a few people there who have the same problem. For me, this is and remains fraud.
Touchy123 wrote on 15.01.2024 at 00:55: WeWard app is just as scam. They collect your data and sell it.
I bet that an estimated 90% of all apps that promise to make money are simply scam. Scam
There are now dozens of surveys where the same snot always comes out.
Swagbucks is one of the 10%, but I don't feel like answering thousands of questions for 30 cents.
Collecting returnable bottles, on the other hand, is 100% worthwhile
Above all, you can see what such surveys are worth and the results are sometimes even published in the media.
The surveys are often simply canceled and for some questions you can already guess what the "right" answer is so that the survey is not canceled. The cash incentive in combination with the frequent survey abort completely falsifies the results.
In order to achieve truly honest results, the surveys should never simply be stopped in the middle. You would only get honest answers if there was no possibility of being excluded from the survey.
One of the stupidest surveys was definitely the one where they were looking for entrepreneurs who run a company with a turnover of at least 250 million euros. You could then choose whether you "only" had a turnover of 250 million or up to 5 billion. It even said that if you only knew someone who ran such a company, you should bring them to the screen and answer the questions. You even had to confirm that the billionaire was now sitting at the screen.
This survey would have cost €2.20. Sure thing, "Billy or Bezos, please come to the screen for a moment and fill out this survey for me, there's €2.20 for it".
I mean, do you have to explain how absurd that is? As if there would ever be such a rich entrepreneur registered on such a stupid website and filling out surveys for a few cents. And as if anyone registered on such a stupid website would live in a shared flat with a billionaire.
Uhhh Mr. Falcon... I don't mean any offense, but it's starting to get on my nerves 🙄 I think everyone who checks this thread from time to time has figured it out by now...
But since there are certainly members who have had similar experiences, maybe you could post an "Offers that I didn't pay for, fraud! I'm thinking about going to report it" thread. Or discuss it like in the good old days in the No Deposit thread. 🤪
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In the menu I was only shown a few games to "test" and I had to earn 20€/$ to be activated for premium content....I assume that the offerwalls would have come then.
My colleague said I had to log in with Gmail to have direct access to the offerwalls.
Said and done.... Offerwalls were there and I started "earning" money until the first payout was due. Verification with video selfie -> double account and banned.
I can understand that a double account is not wanted, but introducing a two-tier society is not OK. I did nothing wrong.... just wanted to use the offers from the Offerwalls and not earn 20€ on any games to unlock them. I hope you understand what I mean: Gmail address -> everything free
and another e-mail address -> earn 20€ first and show that you are worthy of us 🙄
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Stuff from Offertoro, or Torox in the meantime, has not worked a few times. Their website is garbage, no way to open a complaint.
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I'm also closing down Freecash completely and won't be making any game apps. I've also read that the tracking worked for some people and they were credited for the first 4 tasks, for example. For the last task, where you would have received €150 or more, you suddenly didn't get any more money and the ticket was rejected. I mean, how much do they want to take the p**s out of people?
When I write to Freecash, they tell me that it's not their fault. When I write to the casino, they tell me it's not their fault. So nobody is supposedly responsible.
Freecash makes the offers and is therefore responsible for them, no matter how much they try to cover up the fact that they are external providers.
And what exactly is Freecash Exclusive supposed to suggest other than that it is clearly an offer from Freecash? According to Freecash, they are not even responsible for it. It's all just a joke what's going on.
Can you actually speak of commercial fraud? An offer is made which is not kept. If Amazon only delivered 30% of the items paid for, Amazon would no longer exist. But with a dubious site like Freecash, it doesn't seem to be a problem.
They are also a German company (without German support ). Interesting when you consider that they advertise illegal casinos. I mean, Gamblejoe is no longer allowed to advertise illegal casinos, why can Freecash just do that? But that's not the point for me personally, I just find it interesting why they can do that and GGL doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
Anyway, I can only advise anyone not to do anything with Freecash. Yes, some offers work, but it's an absolute gamble and you end up investing a lot of time and money for nothing. As I said, 70% of the casinos didn't work for me.
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The tickets won't get you anywhere either.
This is simply systematic fraud. If this happens several times for almost every user, then you can no longer speak of coincidence.
They pocket most of the money themselves and pay out a little to the users so that it's not quite so conspicuous.
No Affiliate would ever miss out on 70 % or even 20 %. They would immediately introduce a much better tracking procedure or something similar.
I'm really thinking about suing the crap store. It makes me so incredibly angry how companies can get away with such scams.
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I'm currently working on a similar project, so maybe I'll be able to say more about it soon.
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i also think that the whole thing is a method. i got caught out straight away too - i had registered there ages ago, forgot about it, then dug up the account again through the thread here. but since i had already found a lot of posts about the arbitrary blocking of users in advance (reddit is generally a pretty good source, even if you want to know something about the offers - whether it's worth it or not, etc.), i just went for it.), i only collected a handful of euros and then requested a payout as a test. there was a technical problem with the Verification, asked support, did what they recommended and bam: blocked.
i don't care about the few euros now, but i thought exactly what you wrote at the time: they just pocket it and do so with intent.
firstly, by blocking accounts - they only need to do this for every 10th account: fresh accounts with small amounts if possible - that really adds up. as a user, you get annoyed, but if it's only a few euros, not enough to become active in any way.
and secondly, with the larger offers, simply don't pay out 3 out of 10 and shift the responsibility elsewhere. even then, only half of them will get upset, in most cases start one or two ticket attempts and then be worn down by the kafkaesque complaint cycle.
so that the number is not quite so conspicuous and there are always enough people who contribute a "so everything always runs smoothly for me", you leave soudnso many percent unscathed. you can easily automate this with an algorithm that calculates this and filters the accounts.
if you get up your nerve and sue them: i take my hat off. it really annoys me too, it's just such an unbelievably obvious rip-off - for all the reasons you mentioned - but it hasn't been enough to do more than write a few posts.
p.s. there is also cointiply, where everything has actually gone smoothly for me so far, but the offers are not as extensive and some of them pay much less. plus: of course, I may be one of the few unscathed sheep here, so it is only a very conditional recommendation.
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I bet that an estimated 90% of all apps that promise to make money are simply scams. Scam
There are now dozens of surveys where the same snot always comes out.
Swagbucks is one of the 10%, but I have no desire to constantly answer thousands of questions for 30 cents.
Collecting returnable bottles, on the other hand, is 100% worthwhile
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It will probably stay that way. Nothing is happening with me either and I have over €300 open and that's split between over 10 casinos. I also looked around on Reddit, there are a few people there who have the same problem. For me, this is and remains fraud.
Above all, you can see what such surveys are worth and the results are sometimes even published in the media.
The surveys are often simply canceled and for some questions you can already guess what the "right" answer is so that the survey is not canceled. The cash incentive in combination with the frequent survey abort completely falsifies the results.
In order to achieve truly honest results, the surveys should never simply be stopped in the middle. You would only get honest answers if there was no possibility of being excluded from the survey.
One of the stupidest surveys was definitely the one where they were looking for entrepreneurs who run a company with a turnover of at least 250 million euros. You could then choose whether you "only" had a turnover of 250 million or up to 5 billion. It even said that if you only knew someone who ran such a company, you should bring them to the screen and answer the questions. You even had to confirm that the billionaire was now sitting at the screen.
This survey would have cost €2.20. Sure thing, "Billy or Bezos, please come to the screen for a moment and fill out this survey for me, there's €2.20 for it".
I mean, do you have to explain how absurd that is? As if there would ever be such a rich entrepreneur registered on such a stupid website and filling out surveys for a few cents. And as if anyone registered on such a stupid website would live in a shared flat with a billionaire.
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But since there are certainly members who have had similar experiences, maybe you could post an "Offers that I didn't pay for, fraud! I'm thinking about going to report it" thread. Or discuss it like in the good old days in the No Deposit thread. 🤪
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