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Landbased Casinos in general: TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about this? Is this really legal? (Page 2)

Topic created on 07th Jan. 2019 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 25 | Views: 40,766
thebutcher85
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TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

7th Jan. 2019, at 05:37 pm CET#11
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this does not happen on ADP (Merkur) and Novoline devices these devices pay out the win completely Novoline e.g. then pays out every minute 20€ until everything is out

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thebutcher85
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TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

7th Jan. 2019, at 05:40 pm CET#12
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i don't know if it is still like this but according to the old gaming regulations you wouldn't need to hope for the money the operator is only obliged to pay out the money that is left on the money bank everything else is still game points and unfortunately has no value

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Nickii45
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TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

7th Jan. 2019, at 05:44 pm CET#13
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Shynx0810 wrote on 01/07/2019 at 5:21 pm: What pad were you in. Had similar only it was just under 3k. I then went to the counter lady and winked sweetly on she cashed out the win for me and I leave the automat in peace

Schwubb get money in cash and the machine belonged to her. Have heard similar stories from acquaintances, so I always ask in advance if a high win is paid out at the counter

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with the new machines very unlikely because they also do not pay out everything that is on it,,,, or even pay more so no one can say exactly what they pay had seen one that had 1800 on the clock but the machine was the opinion he pays only 1750 from... >:O

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es0000

TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

7th Jan. 2019, at 05:48 pm CET#14
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thebutcher85 wrote on 07/01/2019 at 17:37: this does not happen on ADP (Merkur) and Novoline devices these devices pay out the win in full Novoline e.g then pays out 20€ every minute until everything is out


As already mentioned, this should have been the case with the MAXIMUS.
At least that's what it says in the information for service staff for these machines.
Unfortunately, this was not the case.

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es0000

TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

7th Jan. 2019, at 05:59 pm CET#15
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The highlights of the Maximus Energy game package
- Play without a player card
- Wins of 10 000 energy and more possible for the customer
- High wins in direct play (Maxigames are no longer necessary)
- Intelligent coin and ticket management. The customer is shown at what time which coins or type of money are accepted.
Advantage: - Queries from the customer are avoided - Fewer refills are necessary
- No losses due to zero setting after the 3rd break (180 minutes playing time)



- The 3rd break takes place after another 60 min (180 min total playing time), the money and energy storage must be emptied (zero setting), this process is signaled by the lettering "§ Collect Please wait"
- When this process begins, the player no longer has access to the game
- The device pauses until all energy is converted into money and the money is then paid out, this can take a longer time for higher amounts
- If an empty game or error message occurs during the payout, the booking process will not continue until the money on the money storage has been paid out
- Again, during the booking process, discrepancies can occur on the energy store (+ 20) or money store (- 20) (as with the normal "Collect", see 6.)
- As soon as the money and energy storage is at "0", the 5-minute pause takes place, after which it continues as before:

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Shynx0810

TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

7th Jan. 2019, at 09:03 pm CET#16
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Nickii45 wrote on 07.01.2019 at 17:44
with the new machines very unlikely because they also do not pay out everything that is on it,,,, or even pay more so no one can say exactly what they pay had seen one that had 1800 on the clock of the machine was but the opinion he pays only 1750 from... >:O

In the stammspielo it works. Have there last time had no problems. If more comes it is just risk.

But hey we are players we always live on luck

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Marqes
Expert

TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

7th Jan. 2019, at 11:54 pm CET#17
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Why is it called energy?

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Knochen
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TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

8th Jan. 2019, at 12:16 am CET#18
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Marqes wrote on 07/01/2019 at 23:54: Why is it called energy?

In Novoline it's points, in Maximus it's energy. Because you are not allowed to play for real money. Is a little trick of the industry. Otherwise, maximum stakes of 20ct would be allowed and the maximum win would be 2€, because these are the legal requirements. Therefore, the booking is simply declared as a game. From 20ct become 20 points or 20 energy points or whatever, this process also takes the 5 seconds that a game must last according to the law. Everything you then do with these points or this energy is officially not a game, although it is of course the actual game

The whole thing is due to weak politics. Or strong lobbying, as you want to see it

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Marqes
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TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

8th Jan. 2019, at 12:18 am CET#19
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Bone wrote on 08/01/2019 at 00:16 PM
With Novoline it's points, with Maximus it's energy. For real money you are not allowed to play. Is a little trick of the industry. Otherwise, maximum stakes of 20ct would be allowed and the maximum win would be 2€, because these are the legal requirements. Therefore, the booking is simply declared as a game. From 20ct become 20 points or 20 energy points or whatever, this process also takes the 5 seconds that a game must last according to the law. Everything you then do with these points or this energy is officially not a game, although it is of course the actual game

The whole thing is due to weak politics. Or strong lobbying, as you want to see it.

Thanks!

Man man man...there have themselves yes again what invented.
Yes had seen this contribution, where it says that the real game is only the transfer of the money.

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Begbie
Elite

TR5 High win zero position energy storage cleared. What do you think about...

8th Jan. 2019, at 11:00 am CET#20
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i would make this public if I were you. write to "automatenmarkt" or "games&business" and ask them to publicize the issue.

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