Landbased Casinos in general: Tr.5 gets replenishment from the state (Page 6)

Skeptic wrote on 04/12/2019 at 1:30 pm

Whether I put money in or leave my win on it makes no difference - if the cash is gone,I've lost. Of course it is not fraud. As the vending industry says in their TV commercial - We don't need rules. Where nothing is regulated, there can be no fraud. As with all the other "regulations" regarding Slot machines, there are no serious regulations that cannot be circumvented.

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Bone wrote on 04/12/2019 at 1:36 pm
I do think there is a difference. I used to see this so many times in the Spielo. Someone had 400€ on the machine, gambles on 2€ bet Book of Ra, gets free spins with A or K and gets no extension and only once 4 as a top win and complains loudly that this can not be. And then gambles it all away. And I always thought to myself, just pay out your 500€ and get out. It's not your fault if you lose at gambling. But you ARE to blame if you win at gambling and gamble away your win.

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Skeptic wrote on 04/12/2019 1:56 PM

True enough. Still, it's my money - deposited or won, it doesn't matter - and therefore my loss. Whether I gamble that away or take it with me is my own business. I can lose more than 60 euros an hour on a machine, despite all the claims of the vending industry to the contrary. That is the point. There are no rules regarding the loss

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Bone wrote on 04/12/2019 at 1:59 pm
Yes, of course all the money you won belongs to you first. But many somehow do not see it that way. Even here in the forum you read examples of this kind quite often. "Got with my Deposit of 20€ only to a maximum of 100€, then all gone". But that is not necessarily a loss for me. The luck it needs to make from 20€ at all 100€, underestimate many here. I am also not someone who pays out every win directly, I also want to have my play time and hope for a higher win. But I would never complain if it went well and I even then gambled it all away again.

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Skeptic wrote on 04/12/2019 2:06 PM

That's how I see it too. If I throw in 20 and gamble 100 I have a loss of just 20. Simple as that. That's just the way it is. Nevertheless, I can perpetuate the 100 in 10 minutes. and only that is the point. This dishonesty, that one can lose only 60 the hour. Is simply an unserious and false statement. And that rubs off on the whole thing or better said on the halls.

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Skeptic wrote on 04/12/2019 at 14:06
This dishonesty that yes you can only lose 60 the hour. Is simply an unserious and false statement.

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Harakiri wrote on 13/04/2019 at 11:22: Hello bones, how does it actually work as a lottery when booking? Just wondered a couple of times that sometimes I lose money when booking or posting back.

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Bone wrote on 04/12/2019 at 14:13 PM
But then that is at most the Tip of the iceberg. It starts much earlier than that. A game may only cost 20ct, must last 5 seconds and the maximum win is 2€. As every player knows, none of this applies. How nonsensical it is to call the booking process a "game", I don't have to explain in a players forum. The maximum loss of 60€ is still true somewhere. I cannot lose more than 60€ from my wallet. If you could only bet a maximum of 60€ per hour, playing would make no sense at all. Then one could turn on 10ct employment only 600 times, all the same whether one wins or not. That would be totally stupid.

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Maria_Sunday wrote on 04/15/2019 10:49 AM

Unseriös and wrong? Please show me a TR5 machine where you can use more than 60 EUR / hour.

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