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Landbased Casinos in general: Rights Obligations of the player

Topic created on 18th May. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 24 | Views: 2,103
Shortii
hello
i got the plug pulled on me in the pub in the middle of free games because he wanted to close.
he didn't let me finish the free games.
and the money I deposited is gone too.

Can I do anything about it?

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zocker0815
Top Member

Shortii wrote on 18.05.2024 at 04:39: hello
the plug was pulled on me in the pub in the middle of free games because he wanted to close.
he didn't let me finish the free spins.
and the money I deposited is also gone.

Can I do anything about it?

i suspect that he has already told you 3 times to stop and you didn't do it and at some point the owner got fed up and pulled the plug on you...


wouldn't make much sense if he comes without warning and does that....

the fact that the owner didn't care what money you had in the machine alone leads me to conclude that you are the guilty party in this situation and a real addict who no longer has his life under control

everything else makes little sense, that the operator simply answers and throws you out

what you can do seek help......

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frapi07
Elite
Are the free game winnings and account balance not saved anyway? I've often seen the plug being pulled out, but the credit was never gone afterwards.

You could easily check it based on the internal bookings.

Regardless of this, if the host unplugs you, it's because he wants to go to sleep and you have continued to play. If you like playing at night, then I would recommend an online casino.

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MisterL
Expert
ask nicely the other day

if he has put the money in his own pocket call the police

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Hanshanshans
Elite
MisterL wrote on 18.05.2024 at 13:44: other day ask friendly

if he has put the money in his own pocket call the police

Was also my first thought. If the landlord has seen that a player has a lot of free spins on the clock, unplug it, close the pub (doesn't necessarily have to have been late) and then plug it back in, bag the win yourself and "keep it" for the time being... maybe nobody will come forward.


Definitely stay tuned.

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frapi07
Elite

Hanshanshans wrote on 18.05.2024 at 14:00:
Was my first thought too. If the landlord has seen that a player has a lot of free spins on the clock, unplug, close the pub (doesn't necessarily have to be late) and then plug it back in, bag the win yourself and "keep it" for now... maybe no one will come forward.


Definitely stay tuned.

But pubs hardly ever have cameras. How do you want to prove that?

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Hanshanshans
Elite

frapi07 wrote on 18.05.2024 at 14:10:But hardly any pubs have cameras. How do you want to prove that?

I would then think of the "internal bookings", you had already written. I think reading out a memory or something won't be a problem.

Of course, it will be difficult to prove who exactly continued playing or when. You'd probably need witnesses, other bar patrons for example.

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frapi07
Elite

Hanshanshans wrote on 18.05.2024 at 14:17:

I would then think of the "internal bookings", you had already written. I think reading out a memory or something like that won't be a problem.

Of course, it will be difficult to prove who exactly played on and when. You'd probably need witnesses, other pub patrons for example.

That's what I was getting at. I expressed myself too succinctly. It will be difficult to determine who was really playing. Unless the OASIS queries are also stored somewhere and whether one took place at all.

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Fortunateli
Visitor
MoinMoin together,

i have a basic question regarding the monthly Deposit limit for all providers.

Let's assume that the limit of EUR 1,000 has been reached and I can no longer deposit anywhere until the following month. Strangely enough, however, there is one Provider where this continues to work without any problems 🤔 Deposits exceed this limit

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Stromberg
Legend

Fortunateli wrote on 16.08.2024 at 12:01: MoinMoin together,

i have a basic question regarding the set monthly Deposit limit across all providers.

Let's assume the limit of EUR 1,000 has been reached and I can no longer deposit anywhere until the following month. Strangely enough, however, there is a Provider where this continues to work without any problems 🤔 Deposits exceed this limit

Maybe the data is not 100% correct?

Typing error, 2nd name written in lower case or or...
Then it can happen that a 2nd Lugas profile is created with the data and therefore your limit with the provider is not debited.

I have this with winamax, for example, where my 2nd first name is written in lower case and the depositors do not count towards my limit.

Betathome has not changed my address despite Verification after regulation (at that time I had a new one), and the depositors do not count towards my limit either

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Fortunateli
Visitor

Stromberg wrote on 16.08.2024 at 12:19 pm:

Maybe some data is not 100% correct?

Typing error, 2nd name written in lower case or or...
Then it can happen that a 2nd Lugas profile is created with the data and thus your limit with the Provider is not charged.

I have this with winamax, for example, where my 2nd first name is written in lower case and the depositors do not count towards my limit.

Betathome has not changed my address despite Verification after regulation (at that time I had a new one), and the depositors do not count towards my limit either

Yes, and fittingly also for me BAH and despite renewed verification 🤔🤔

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Fortunateli
Visitor

Fortunateli wrote on 16.08.2024 at 12:26:

Yes and fittingly also with me BAH and despite renewed Verification 🤔🤔

And now it gets interesting...


2. My first name is also written in lower case...
My old address is still stored...
And the verification status under Documents says: VERIFICATION IN PROGRESS
🤔🤔🤔


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btssultan
Experienced
Shortii wrote on 18.05.2024 at 04:39: hello
the plug was pulled on me in the pub in the middle of free games because he wanted to close.
he didn't let me finish the free spins.
and the money I deposited is also gone.

Can I do anything about it?

You can only go there the next day and continue playing or collect your money.

Scores are saved by a memory function in the gaming machine. It must also have this, e.g. in the event of a power failure etc. This means that your money and free spins are not simply gone.

On the other hand, I can understand the landlord, many players usually take advantage of closing time until the bitter end, so it's easy to get irritable at some point, just like customers who have to make their purchases 5 minutes before closing time.

However, many make an exception here and usually let you finish your game and then write down your account balance for the next working day, if open.

Legally, I doubt that you can do anything, as the landlord has the right of domicile and there are corresponding regulations that can quickly become expensive.

I've never experienced it this way, I've always been allowed to finish my game, as the ladies and gentlemen usually still have to clean up or close the cash register etc.. Internally, the amount was then written down by the employee and the next shift even booked it out for me, so that I only had to collect my money in exchange for a small tip usually 20 - 50 EUR

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btssultan
Experienced
Fortunateli wrote on 16.08.2024 at 12:01: MoinMoin together,

i have a basic question regarding the set monthly Deposit limit across all providers.

Let's assume the limit of EUR 1,000 has been reached and I can no longer deposit anywhere until the following month. Strangely enough, however, there is a Provider where this continues to work without any problems 🤔 Deposits exceed this limit

I have been involved in a legal dispute about this for several months and have filed a corresponding application with the regional court. Unfortunately, it feels like a never-ending battle.

GGL argues that it is not a system error, but that the error lies with you or the providers, which is why the protective function cannot take effect.

In my opinion, this is just a simple excuse and shows the real weaknesses of the system, which is not even able to differentiate between accounts that are identical to other accounts based on information already stored.

This raises the question of why you have to verify your data at all if such a simple error in the data comparison can lead to an overpayment and thus cheat player protection.

Unfortunately, you also have to be careful what you write here in the forum, as GGL also monitors this and threatens you with lawyers, saying that you are spreading untruths, even though I can prove it in black and white, as other players have already written here.

It's sad that instead of tackling the problem, they try to denounce and silence people for their own failure to protect players.

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gamble1
Icon

btssultan wrote on 08/18/2024 13:11:
Been in a legal dispute about this for several months and have filed a motion with the state court accordingly. Unfortunately, it feels like a never-ending battle.

GGL argues that it is not a system error, but that the error lies with you or the providers, which is why the protective function cannot take effect.

In my opinion, this is just a simple excuse and shows the real weaknesses of the system, which is not even able to differentiate between accounts that are identical to other accounts based on information already stored.

This raises the question of why you have to verify your data at all if such a simple error in the data comparison can lead to an overpayment and thus cheat player protection.

Unfortunately, you also have to be careful what you write here in the forum, as GGL also monitors this and threatens you with lawyers, saying that you are spreading untruths, even though I can prove it in black and white, as other players have already written here.

It's sad that instead of tackling the problem, they try to denounce people and silence them for their own failure to protect players.

How can the fault lie with you? It's not your system and can therefore only be the fault of someone who can intervene in the system or who can work with the system, whether it's the GGL or Lugas specifically has its own company or even the game Provider, in no case can it be the fault of the person who just tries to log in somewhere with their name and address, because where do you have the function of it in your hand?


Actually, the GGL should work with you in such a case, I mean the whole regulation stands and falls with this Player protection argument and if some providers set up the system incorrectly and players can therefore Deposit more than intended, such a thing should not be a trifle

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