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Landbased Casinos in general: Novoline system conversion

Topic created on 02nd Nov. 2023 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 14 | Views: 1,441
n****4

Novoline system conversion

2nd Nov. 2023, at 06:38 pm CET#1
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Hello, perhaps some have noticed that you get on 1,1,50,2 euros with 5 heads only 500+50 ags. That means you lose 1000 euros if you get them on 2 euros. For me this is a rip-off and I will not go to a gambling house anymore. Wins come anyway almost never, but that is times put aside. Am magic e.g. double book goes only to 1 euro tray and many magic games just as. Maybe that does not apply to every state.

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Pat1991
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Novoline system conversion

2nd Nov. 2023, at 06:40 pm CET#2
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Do they have to abide by this dubious 1000 EUR maximum profit rule now? I thought that was abolished in the meantime. At least on the bank goes with the Novo since TR5 much more, I think still in memory to have?

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n****4

Novoline system conversion

2nd Nov. 2023, at 07:52 pm CET#3
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Pat1991 wrote on 02.11.2023 at 18:40: Do they now have to adhere to this dubious 1000 EUR maximum profit rule? I thought it was abolished by now. At least on the bank goes with the Novo since TR5 much more, I think still in memory to have?!

A woman had on 1.50 five heads in a row 500+50 ags for me this is rip-off. Imagine you get 5 heads on 2 euro tray then only 1000 euros !!! That's 1000 less than usual . Since then I gamble only in casinos and online that has given me the rest

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gagapapamama
Expert

Novoline system conversion

2nd Nov. 2023, at 08:18 pm CET#4
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needle34 wrote on 02.11.2023 at 19:52:

A woman had five heads on 1,50 in a row 500+50 ags for me that is rip off. Imagine you get 5 heads on 2 euro tray then only 1000 euro !!! That's 1000 less than usual . Since then I gamble only in casinos and online that has given me the rest

Is like in real life, they become as greedy. But do not panic, it is a bit scolded and then it is further gambled what the stuff holds.


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n****4

Novoline system conversion

3rd Nov. 2023, at 01:25 am CET#5
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gagapapamama wrote on 02.11.2023 at 20:18:

Is like in real life, they get as greedier. But don't panic, there will be a bit of a rant and then they will continue to gamble for all they're worth.



I don't think it's fair when the level 1 Euro 1.50 and 2 are only fobbed off with 500+50. No matter whether one goes there or not. Also at the magic at double book only the 1 euro rule applies. At Magic Deluxe not. Very funny. Or the hall owners have invented new rules.

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Frankey
Experienced

Novoline system conversion

3rd Nov. 2023, at 04:32 am CET#6
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needle34 wrote on 03.11.2023 at 01:25:

I don't think it's fair when level 1 euro 1.50 and 2 are only fobbed off with 500+50. No matter if you go there or not. Also at magic at double book only the 1 euro rule applies. At Magic Deluxe not. Very funny. Or the hall owners have invented new rules.

One reads again and again that manipulated machines are seized with controls or raids. Some owners have their own rules, especially when the halls are run by large families.

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gamble1
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Novoline system conversion

3rd Nov. 2023, at 06:01 pm CET#7
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The device actually adjusts the wins at least he should pay more with the AG's then

As far as I know, the devices are not allowed to advertise bigger wins than 1000 € in one go, which was initially circumvented by the AG's (since you play them again and the winnings are not fixed) but now the whole thing is circumvented by a nice sentence along the lines of "further prizes are achievable"

As a rule, the device pays you the +6 several times and less often the 0 when this already unlikely hit of €2 occurs

But even in the past I often had a picture that was supposed to pay you 800 € through the AG's 1300 so nothing is stolen from you, just the free spins and Ag's on the Novo during the 3 hour break

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n****4

Novoline system conversion

3rd Nov. 2023, at 07:30 pm CET#8
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gamble1 wrote on 03.11.2023 at 18:01: The device actually adjusts the wins at least he should pay more with the AG's then

As far as I know, the devices are not allowed to advertise bigger wins than 1000 € in one go which was first circumvented by the AG's (since you play them again and the winnings are not fixed) but now the whole thing is circumvented by a nice sentence along the lines of "more prizes are achievable"

As a rule, the device pays you the +6 several times and less often the 0 when this already unlikely hit of €2 occurs

But even in the past I often had a picture that was supposed to pay you 800 € through the AG's 1300 so nothing is stolen from you, just the free spins and Ag's on the Novo during the 3 hour break

2 weeks ago it was still 500+150 ags, at 2 euros we are talking about in a row not in the games. The customer had 500+50 ags instead of 500+100ags. At 1.50 in a row that's a rip-off and no, she didn't have 1500+ but 1100. So I hope the halls die out by 2025. Because what they do to the customers is the lowest canon I'm there too. Out and I think it hurts someone who has been fed with thousands when they no longer go to the hall. Because I have friends who have halls and are fighting to keep their existence and customers, so I hope for closures . Anyone who has been gambling for a long time knows what I'm talking about these halls, especially private ones, are often such a rip-off. With chains it may be better but I can only advise everyone not to go to such halls. It's better to go to a casino or online casino where you have a chance of winning

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frapi07
Elite

Novoline system conversion

3rd Nov. 2023, at 07:45 pm CET#9
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needle34 wrote on 03/11/2023 19:30:
2 weeks ago it was 500+150 ags, at 2 euros we are talking about in a row not in the games. The customer had 500+50 ags, instead of 500+100ags. At 1.50 in a row that's a rip-off and no, she didn't have 1500+ but 1100. So I hope the halls die out by 2025. Because what they do to the customers is the lowest canon I'm there too. Out and I think it hurts someone who has been fed with thousands when they no longer go to the hall. Because I have friends who have halls and are fighting to keep their existence and customers, so I hope for closures . Anyone who has been gambling for a long time knows what I'm talking about these halls, especially private ones, are often such a rip-off. With chains it may be better but I can only advise everyone not to go to such halls. It's better to go to a casino or online casino where you have a chance of winning

The halls certainly don't do this on purpose - or do you think that they voluntarily adjust their wins so that it looks unattractive?

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Pat1991
Top Member

Novoline system conversion

3rd Nov. 2023, at 08:06 pm CET#10
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gamble1 wrote on 03.11.2023 at 18:01: The device actually adjusts the wins at least he should pay more with the AG's then

As far as I know, the devices are not allowed to advertise bigger wins than 1000 € in one go which was first circumvented by the AG's (since you play them again and the winnings are not fixed) but now the whole thing is circumvented by a nice sentence along the lines of "more prizes are achievable"

As a rule, the device pays you the +6 several times and less often the 0 when this already unlikely hit of €2 occurs

But even in the past I often had a picture that was supposed to pay you 800 € through the AG's 1300 so nothing is stolen from you, just the free spins and Ag's on the Novo during the 3 hour break

I thought that these toads now play tricks with the 3 hour break and somehow manage to pay out the full win if something higher comes in? Or has that been abolished again?

One more reason not to go to the arcade. Even the German Online Casinos have higher wins than the crap boxes, and that's saying something

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gamble1
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Novoline system conversion

3rd Nov. 2023, at 09:27 pm CET#11
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Pat1991 wrote on 03.11.2023 at 20:06:
I thought that these toads are now tricking with the 3 hour break, and somehow manage to pay out the full win when something higher comes in? Or has that been lifted again?

One more reason not to go to the arcade. Even the German Online Casinos have higher wins than the crap boxes, and that's saying something

The Merkur and Bally boxes then throw you money out every minute and play everything that is left of free spins or PLC's alone in fast forward, but the Novoline boxes don't if you have free spins or PLC's and it goes into the 3 hour break, it deletes it and then throws your money out like the others


With us there have been so many discussions on 2 € one of them had simply deleted my 50 free spins in Book of Ra the guy threatened with police and everything end of the song Novomatic says yes is so right so end

That's why I don't understand why these shitty Novo boxes are still so popular, some people leave when they're not free, you can't be that stupid

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Pat1991
Top Member

Novoline system conversion

3rd Nov. 2023, at 09:37 pm CET#12
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I once saw in a video that someone had over 36,000 on the clock in Book of Ra Fixed when it was still around! It's all really just stupid.

Someone should shut down the whole industry. Or allow more real casinos, or a fixed limit via OASIS for all I care. Then enough would be done to protect against addiction and everyone could gamble as much as they like and get banned if necessary.

Whoever came up with TR5 and then didn't implement it properly (only 20 cents per 5 seconds, and no more booking system!) should be shot. The industry cheats its way around it every time... ts ts ts ts.

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frapi07
Elite

Novoline system conversion

5th Nov. 2023, at 02:48 pm CET#13
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Pat1991 wrote on 03.11.2023 at 21:37: Had once seen in some video that someone had over 36,000 on the clock at Book of Ra Fixed when it was still around! It's all really just stupid.

Someone should shut down the whole industry. Or allow more real casinos, or a fixed limit via OASIS for all I care. Then enough would be done to protect against addiction and everyone could gamble as much as they like and get banned if necessary.

Whoever came up with TR5 and then didn't implement it properly (only 20 cents per 5 seconds, and no more booking system!) should be shot. The industry cheats its way around it every time... ts ts ts ts.

36000€ what sounds too much. Was that in an arcade or a casino? Casino would be quite possible, but arcade? I really don't think so.

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Pat1991
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Novoline system conversion

5th Nov. 2023, at 08:21 pm CET#14
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I think it was from a Spielo. It was passed around. Allegedly Book of Ra Fixed was shut down precisely because of cases like this.

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gamble1
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Novoline system conversion

5th Nov. 2023, at 10:46 pm CET#15
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frapi07 wrote on 05.11.2023 at 14:48:

36000€ what sounds too much. Was that in an arcade or a casino? Casino would be quite possible, but arcade? I really don't think so.

It was really real, but it was promo wins from the new TR.5 devices and from a Book of Ra fixed version, as this was initially set up exclusively for casinos and the system was never converted to TR.5

After that, the fixed version was also switched off in response to complaints from hall owners, as a machine that gives you €400 per hour naturally remains unplayable forever with such sums and now the game came back sporadically, of course without ever giving such sums again

Funnily enough, Fixed was initially included in every game package with the new Novos, but not anymore

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