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Landbased Casinos in general: Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

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Skitch22
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Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 05:59 am CEST#1
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Yesterday had an employee of an arcade said from July comes the player card and you can only play on 1 machine with it, they found probably not good much fear I could see in her face, I said it's good if you can only play on a machine so you do not lose control so quickly, as she just looked stupid what exactly changes but now again exactly with the card?

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M****3

Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 07:32 am CEST#2
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Skitch22 wrote on 07.06.2018 at 05:59 clock: Yesterday had an employee of an arcade said from July comes the player card and you can only play on 1 machine with it, they probably did not find good much fear I could see in her face, I said but it's good if you can only play on a machine so you do not lose control so quickly, there she just looked stupid what exactly changes but now again exactly with the card ?

How is that then this is given by the arcade or do you get the mail or what and are there then eg restrictions that some can not play the with a machine I find quite useful because some games are very crowded in big cities and man who finds a free machine

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Christoph
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Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 08:23 am CEST#3
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The player cards are issued by the operators of the gaming hall and are used to ensure that exactly one machine is unlocked for the player. It is to prevent quasi that a player can play at 5 automats at the same time. As it was explained to me once, you get the card from the staff, which may give you only one card.

At the same time, the other provisions of TR 5.0. would also have to be implemented. However, I am not quite sure here, because there are relatively many transition periods for different machines. But actually here it once that from November 10, 2018, the new vending machines of the TR5.0 directive should come. Among other things, the loss limit is lowered from 80€ to 60€ in the hour. The maximum win per hour was lowered in the same move from 500 to 400€. After one hour, the machine must take a break from playing for 5 minutes, and after 3 hours it must go into sleep mode for 5 minutes (money stores must be emptied).

I think these were the most important changes, but have not seen such devices in Spielos yet.

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M****3

Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 08:27 am CEST#4
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Christoph wrote on 07.06.2018 at 08:23: The player cards are issued by the operators of the arcade and are used to ensure that exactly one machine is unlocked for the player. It is virtually to prevent a player from playing on 5 machines at the same time. The way it was explained to me once, you get the card from the staff, who are only allowed to hand you one card.

At the same time, the other provisions of TR 5.0. would also have to be implemented. However, I am not quite sure here, because there are relatively many transition periods for different machines. But actually here it once that from November 10, 2018, the new vending machines of the TR5.0 directive should come. Among other things, the loss limit is lowered from 80€ to 60€ in the hour. The maximum win per hour was lowered in the same move from 500 to 400€. After one hour, the machine must take a break from playing for 5 minutes, and after 3 hours it must go into sleep mode for 5 minutes (money stores must be emptied).

I think these were the most important changes, but have not seen such devices in Spielos yet.


That with the after three hours is really shit that you have to take out your money then no matter whether you have won or not because in this time it was anyway mostly so that players go to other machines I think the losses of excessive players will be far from higher because I think that a player after the said hour of play changes the machine and could thus play through

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Skitch22
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Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 08:29 am CEST#5
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Christoph wrote on 07.06.2018 at 08:23: The player cards are issued by the operators of the arcade and are used to ensure that exactly one machine is unlocked for the player. It is virtually to prevent a player from playing on 5 machines at the same time. The way it was explained to me once, you get the card from the staff, who are only allowed to hand you one card.

At the same time, the other provisions of TR 5.0. would also have to be implemented. However, I am not quite sure here, because there are relatively many transition periods for different machines. But actually here it once that from November 10, 2018, the new vending machines of the TR5.0 directive should come. Among other things, the loss limit is lowered from 80€ to 60€ in the hour. The maximum win per hour was lowered in the same move from 500 to 400€. After one hour, the machine must take a break from playing for 5 minutes, and after 3 hours it must go into sleep mode for 5 minutes (money stores must be emptied).

I think these were the most important changes, but have not seen such devices in Spielos yet.


Best would still be a single card with the maximum you can gamble away the day only 50 € and if you lock that you so also can no longer gamble offline, hopefully something like that also comes one day.

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M****3

Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 08:49 am CEST#6
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Skitch22 wrote on 07.06.2018 at 08:29
The best would still be a uniform card with which you can gamble on the day maximum only 50€ and if you lock that you can so also no longer gamble offline, hopefully something like that also comes one day.

The 50 € I find bullshit you should be allowed to select his loss beforehand itself, so if I want to gamble away 100 € that I could then also gamble away a maximum of 100 €

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Begbie
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Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 09:04 am CEST#7
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Christoph wrote on 07.06.2018 at 08:23: The player cards are issued by the operators of the arcade and are used to ensure that exactly one machine is unlocked for the player. It is virtually to prevent a player from playing on 5 machines at the same time. The way it was explained to me once, you get the card from the staff, who are only allowed to hand you one card.

At the same time, the other provisions of TR 5.0. would also have to be implemented. However, I am not quite sure here, because there are relatively many transition periods for different machines. But actually here it once that from November 10, 2018, the new vending machines of the TR5.0 directive should come. Among other things, the loss limit is lowered from 80€ to 60€ in the hour. The maximum win per hour was lowered in the same move from 500 to 400€. After one hour, the machine must take a break from playing for 5 minutes, and after 3 hours it must go into sleep mode for 5 minutes (money stores must be emptied).

I think these were the most important changes, but have not seen such devices in Spielos yet.


not only the money memory but ALL counters must be zeroed after three hours.
haste coal onm money memory --> coal away
if you have freegames --> freegames gone
of course there will be warnings before the three hours are over.
nevertheless this method has conflict potential *g*

rebooking is only possible manually. max. 2,20€ every 6 seconds
currently the menu button takes over this rebooking process.
whether another button will be displayed on the screen, seems not yet clear.

as far as the card is concerned, i'm actually pretty sure that the players will find a way around it. it remains to be seen what that will look like...

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Skitch22
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Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 09:15 am CEST#8
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Begbie wrote on 06/07/2018 at 09:04 AM
not only the money store but ALL meters must be zeroed after three hours.
if you have money in the money bank --> money gone
if you have freegames --> freegames gone
of course there will be warnings before the three hours are over.
nevertheless this method has conflict potential *g*

rebooking is only possible manually. max. 2,20€ every 6 seconds
currently the menu button takes over this rebooking process.
whether another button will be displayed on the screen for this purpose does not seem to be entirely clear yet.

as far as the card is concerned, i'm actually pretty sure that the players will find a way around it. it remains to be seen what that will look like...

Is good but the more boring it will be less and less in arcades gamble, there are anyway far too many hopefully many go bust. I know someone who plays in the same Spielo where I sometimes play, he had his own cleaning company that ran well with 5 employees, and the cleaning company went bankrupt because he had gambled away the tax money that he should pay to the tax office several times. For him, something like a card with blocking or a limit of max. 50 € per day would have been useful, then he would still have his company.

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Christoph
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Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 09:25 am CEST#9
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@Begbie: I had forgotten about the rebooking process in the short list. This will definitely make cash machines in Spielos even less attractive. There are certainly many ways to circumvent the cards, Matthias once asked a machine representative from Bally Wulff whether the operators could not simply leave the cards inserted, so that operation is possible at any time. The man was amazed at the time, said it is theoretically possible, but the operators must not be caught during checks. But there will certainly be other ways of getting around it.


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Gambling hall card comes what exactly changes ?

7th Jun. 2018, at 10:53 am CEST#10
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