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Landbased Casinos in general: Blocking controls (Page 2)

Topic created on 26th Jan. 2023 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 24 | Views: 3,245
HuKu_Koln
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Blocking controls

27th Jan. 2023, at 10:21 am CET#16
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gamble1 wrote on 26/01/2023 at 23:29:

Well there is for example the point that at a large Provider dozens of people were blocked without ever having ordered this because of a technical error and OASIS has done nothing to delete the erroneous blocks

Where did you get that info? I would be interested, I have not noticed.


The player ban ultimately serves not only the player, but also other parties involved. Debtors waiting for their money, relatives whose money is gambled away, business partners involved with embezzlement. In general, the end of the player's ban can always be requested after the minimum term has expired. So it is never a final decision.

Third-party suspensions, as mentioned, don't just happen. In the case of a self-block, the minimum term is 3 months. What do you think, is 3 months too long for a voluntary ban? You are actually aware of the time frame when you apply.

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R3hab
Elite

Blocking controls

27th Jan. 2023, at 10:23 am CET#17
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Am very happy that oasis is finally on the market, in many arcades I can no longer play but there is still one that lets me play, there are cards distributed with the dan at a terminal can unlock a device, with the perso you can unlock an additional device.
Although I am locked at oasis, I could unlock a device with my perso there, the last time I was playing there was 3 months ago, how it is now I do not know, also have no intention of going there.
The arcades must be more controlled by the regulatory body and should pay high penalties if they do not control.

Then there's still Turkish cafes where no control takes place, most are there 2 machines and in the basement again a few, the same for kiosks, it must be more controlled and high penalties be distributed, otherwise what changes there never.

But oasis has helped me and I am so far satisfied and glad that there is something.

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Max_Bet
Expert

Blocking controls

27th Jan. 2023, at 01:25 pm CET#18
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BinGOLD wrote on 01/27/2023 at 04:01 AM:

Nah nah nah you... Once you get locked, you definitely have to stay locked!!!

It is not so that each lock was also applied for own intension, so voluntarily by the player himself, because he had an insight... Or just ne shitty time of which he needed ne break!!!
In large part, this is one of the conditions of probation, because these people only through the Gambling addiction, became criminals!
It is just as important to protect family members and their children!
If the husband or wife within one day the entire income on the head, including rent, electricity and household money, etc..
These locks are certainly not voluntarily applied for by the addicts!
What do you mean? if the roughest broken pieces are only once again eliminated, run the nevertheless immediately again there and make further as gäbs no tomorrow 🤷♀️

Yes well I did not want to doubt the sense behind it.

I just can't stand it when someone doesn't ask for help, but then it is forced upon him in the spirit of goodwill to protect him from himself. And then he can't even get out of it himself. Everything in the sense of health.
Sure there are people as mentioned in your example and then it's fine, but if I don't have a family I can do what I want with my life and money 🙂

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RiverSong
Legend

Blocking controls

27th Jan. 2023, at 03:43 pm CET#19
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BinGOLD wrote on 27.01.2023 at 04:01: Nee nee du.. Once you get locked you definitely have to stay locked!!!

It is not so that each lock was also applied for own intension, so voluntarily by the player himself, because he had an insight.... Or just ne shitty time of which he needed ne break!!!
In large part, this is one of the conditions of probation, because these people only through the Gambling addiction, became criminals!
It is just as important to protect family members and their children!
If the husband or wife within one day the entire income on the head, including rent, electricity and household money, etc..
These locks are certainly not voluntarily applied for by the addicts!
What do you mean? once the roughest shards are removed, they immediately run back there and continue as if there were no tomorrow 🤷♀️

completely your opinion.

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gamble1
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Blocking controls

27th Jan. 2023, at 07:23 pm CET#20
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FachstelleGSSkoeln wrote on 27.01.2023 at 10:21:

Where did you get that info? Would be interested, didn't catch it.


The player ban ultimately serves not only the player, but also other parties involved. Debtors waiting for their money, relatives whose money is gambled away, business partners involved with embezzlement. In general, the end of the player's ban can always be requested after the minimum term has expired. So it is never a final decision.

Third-party suspensions, as mentioned, don't just happen. In the case of a self-block, the minimum term is 3 months. What do you think, is 3 months too long for a voluntary ban? You are actually aware of the time frame when you apply.

Here is a nice article about it but also the whole Internet is full of it the customers were left alone


It may be that I am rather old-fashioned, but if I owe someone money, this person can apply for an order to pay and enforce if I do not want to pay and if I embezzle money, they can report me and get the money

If now but someone on this basis means to obtain an Oasis lock I think that is an encroachment on the personal self-determination and whether sick or not that should not be attackable in any man

The only point where I could understand it if one now e.g. as a parent the money on 01 gambles away and there is no possibility to get legally the money from the hands of the person by e.g. redirection to another bank account that would then be a justified case of hardship

And of course there are hurdles to lock someone else but it is not impossible and that is the crux and yes I know if someone wants to kill himself you can also put aside his self-determination but is such a scenario really comparable and justified? Questions about questions and who decides about it?

Edit: In addition, I have a few years ago read something where about the consequences of stranger locks was spoken in relation to what it has for the person concerned for consequences on the psyche because most of them feel betrayed by it

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HuKu_Koln
Rookie

Blocking controls

28th Jan. 2023, at 05:16 pm CET#21
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gamble1 wrote on 01/27/2023 at 19:23:
Here is a nice article about this but also the whole internet is full of it the customers were left alone


I may be rather old fashioned but if I owe someone money that person can apply for an order to pay and enforce if I don't want to pay and if I embezzle money they can report me and get the money

If now but someone on this basis means to obtain an Oasis lock I think that is an encroachment on the personal self-determination and whether sick or not that should not be attackable in any man

The only point where I could understand it if one now e.g. as a parent the money on 01 gambles away and there is no possibility to get legally the money from the hands of the person by e.g. redirection to another bank account that would then be a justified case of hardship

And of course there are hurdles to lock someone else but it is not impossible and that is the crux and yes I know if someone wants to kill himself you can also put aside his self-determination but is such a scenario really comparable and justified? Questions about questions and who decides about it?

Edit: In addition, I have read a few years ago something where about the consequences of stranger locks was spoken in relation to what it has for the person concerned for consequences on the psyche because most feel betrayed by it

In the case of an outbreak of Gambling addiction, losses of tens to hundreds of thousands of euros can occur in a week. There are several ways in which the discovery of debts or embezzlement comes too late in any case. Gambling addicts are very good at hiding their problem from themselves, from the environment and also from partners. If you don't have money, nothing can be taken from you.

I am critical of your edit. It is important to be aware of this circumstance in the case of a third-party lock. At the same time it is a very one-sided formulated hint, which pushes the gambler into a victim role. Let's please give all parties involved the space and not forget that in most cases the environment also feels betrayed.

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HuKu_Koln
Rookie

Blocking controls

28th Jan. 2023, at 05:24 pm CET#22
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Peter8 wrote on 27.01.2023 at 10:23: Am very happy that oasis is finally on the market, in many arcades I can no longer play but there is still one that lets me play, there are cards distributed with the dan at a terminal can unlock a device, with the perso you can unlock an additional device.
Although I am locked at oasis, I could unlock a device with my perso there, the last time I was playing there was 3 months ago, how it is now I do not know, also have no intention of going there.
The arcades must be more controlled by the regulatory body and should pay high penalties if they do not control.

Then there's still Turkish cafes where no control takes place, most are there 2 machines and in the basement again a few, the same for kiosks, it must be more controlled and high penalties be distributed, otherwise what changes there never.

But oasis has helped me and I am so far satisfied and happy that there is something.

So no data Verification was done in the said arcade? Player cards are actually not intended as a free ticket. Also there must take place a proof of identity, so that e.g. cards can not simply be passed on. Nevertheless, I'm glad to hear that the blocking gives you support. What exactly was your impulse for the block?

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d****1

Blocking controls

16th Mar. 2023, at 09:34 pm CET#23
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This lock would not have been necessary at all.
Due to the consistent neutering of the vending machines - booking phase, profit limit, etc pp in recent years, plus no drinks, smoking ban, etc - I'm surprised that the stores still exist at all. There are even in our small town huge areas available, which may no longer be used.
Example: You had a 4 party house a few years ago, and nowadays one tenant has to pay the entire rent because the rest of the space is not allowed to be occupied. How the Spielos cushion this is a mystery to me.

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alge92
Visitor

Blocking controls

20th Mar. 2023, at 05:57 pm CET#24
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depecheden1 wrote on 16.03.2023 at 21:34: This lock would not have needed it at all.
Due to the consistent neutering of the vending machines - booking phase, profit limit etc pp of the last few years, additionally no drinks, smoking ban etc I am surprised that the stores still exist at all. There are even in our small town huge areas available, which may no longer be used.
Example: You had a 4 party house a few years ago, and nowadays one tenant has to pay the entire rent because the rest of the space is not allowed to be occupied. How the Spielos cushion this is a mystery to me.


Think, most want to play online anyway. It's like when Kaufhof whines that no one comes to the pedestrian zone anymore. If you do not hear the signs of the times, then you have to live with the consequences. That's how the business world works

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roccoammo11
Expert

Blocking controls

21st Mar. 2023, at 07:03 am CET#25
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i am now again of the opinion that many will rather go back to the arcades...first of all, there are still enough places for gambling addicts where they can still play & even if you don't get anything out, you don't fall asleep while playing due to the 5 sec rule. of course, those who have never been there, for whatever reason, will still not do it!

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