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HuKu_Koln

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26th Jan. 2023, at 04:36 pm CET#1

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Hello Dear Community,
i am an employee of a gambling counseling center, the one in Cologne to be exact.

I and my team would be interested in concrete feedback on the OASIS block. According to the latest figures, about 150,000 people in Germany are blocked. Are these blocks now being monitored and implemented on site? In our consulting work, we hear again and again that this is rarely the case.

We would be happy to hear about your experiences. Especially from people who have had themselves blocked and still tried to muddle through in the arcade somehow. How realistic is that?

Many greetings

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Max_Bet

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26th Jan. 2023, at 04:41 pm CET#2

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We live in the best Germany ever 🙄... there are always ways and means. But what you read here so can make it really hard for an Oasis. Especially when it comes to unlocking... but also from non-voluntary locks I have already read here.
Fortunately, I had no contact and will continue to avoid it.

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HuKu_Koln

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26th Jan. 2023, at 04:50 pm CET#3

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Max_Bet wrote on 26.01.2023 at 16:41: We live in the best Germany ever 🙄... there are always ways and means. But what you read here can actually make it hard for an Oasis. Especially when it comes to unlocking... but also from non-voluntary locks I have already read here.
Fortunately I had no contact and will continue to avoid it.

This is actually one of the first few feedbacks that sound like this. The ulterior motive is to make it hard, after all. At least to those who can't control it on their own accord.

You avoid contact with OASIS or the arcade controls?

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Pillum93

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26th Jan. 2023, at 05:18 pm CET#4

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So from experience, are checked in Bremen now in almost all gambling houses and in the casino anyway, everyone when going in with Perso and the associated database on the PC. Also know people who have been blocked and these have not yet managed to get into a gambling house.

People who get blocked should also stay blocked, because too many people run the Risk of falling off the wagon.

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Max_Bet

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26th Jan. 2023, at 05:20 pm CET#5

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FachstelleGSSkoeln wrote on 26.01.2023 at 16:50:

This is actually one of the first few feedbacks that sound like this. The ulterior motive is, after all, to make it hard. At least to those who can't do it on their own initiative in a controlled way.

You avoid contact with OASIS or the arcade controls?

Contact with Oasis. I have nothing to do with arcades anyway.

That's clear. I also wrote that there are problems when it comes to unlocking. Not everyone wants to be locked forever and an unlocking should then also wedren carried out. Here it was at some point about the fact that Oasis then probably liked to act as a "guardian". Nothing else. Ansich but stands behind Oasis probably a good thought.

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Falko

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26th Jan. 2023, at 06:03 pm CET#6

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These Oasis locks also do not have the desired effect, because you only have to enter casino and sports betting providers without Oasis on Google. Then a lot of possibilities pop up and so every blocked Oasis player can continue to play there. So you only drive the players from the legal market to the black market.

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refucs

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26th Jan. 2023, at 06:29 pm CET#7

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Falko wrote on 26.01.2023 at 18:03: These Oasis locks also do not bring their desired effect, because you need then only enter Google casino and sports betting providers without Oasis. There pluppen then very many possibilities and so every blocked Oasis player can then continue to play there. So you drive the players then only from the legal market to the black market.

So my OASIS ban from July 21 to July 22 helped me a lot, because I had no interest in illegal providers to make my sports bets (especially because you never know 100% if you get your money in a payout, Verification stress, etc.). Have then really suspended 1 year.

That's why I think there are such and such examples.

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gamble1

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26th Jan. 2023, at 07:16 pm CET#8

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So here with us there are some arcades that take the ID but control the old-fashioned way only the age of all the bars times apart

Many were closed not for the reason but still they are now closed

But another thought there are now these long-term player cards there you give your ID in the arcade as if you would start to play normally only you will then be registered on a card that is tied to you and that you can also take with you

If you now sometime on the next day or week or month or year come by you do not have to supervise and present the card because the card automatically compares your name with OASIS and activates your card when you are on site should you have been locked can be unlocked with it no more device

Now imagine person A and B get the cards and person A can be blocked but goes to play with the card of person B that would be very easy for regular customers because a visual inspection of the ID does not take place and with regular customers rather also trust prevails how do they check such cases? I suspect times not at all

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26th Jan. 2023, at 07:30 pm CET#9

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gamble1 wrote on 26.01.2023 at 19:16 clock: So here with us gibts some arcades that take the ID but control the old-fashioned only the age of all the bars times apart

Many were closed not for the reason but still they are now closed

But times another thought there are now these long-term player cards since you give his ID in the arcade as if you start to play normally only you are then registered on a card that is bound to you and you may also take with you

If you now sometime on the next day or week or month or year come by you do not have to supervise and show the card because the card automatically compares your name with OASIS and activates your card when you are on site should you have been locked can be unlocked with it no more device

Now imagine person A and B get the cards and person A can be blocked but goes to play with the card of person B that would be very easy for regular customers because a visual inspection of the ID does not take place and with regular customers rather also trust prevails how do they check such cases? I suppose times not at all

Then person a has had bad luck in my eyes, who owns so much criminal energy also comes somewhere to gamble!

Furthermore, if it were a regular customer would possibly notice it.

The only thing that oasis or the new regulations bring is that it takes the fun out of gambling and patronizes the citizen!

In addition, oasis does not work properly, because it can not be the casino xy player a can block and player a looks into the tube!

Who should objectively decide that player a is addicted! ?

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26th Jan. 2023, at 07:50 pm CET#10

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Blubbo33 wrote on 26/01/2023 at 19:30:

Then person a has had bad luck in my eyes, who has so much criminal energy also comes somewhere to gamble!

Furthermore, if it were a regular customer would notice it possibly .

The only thing that oasis or the new regulations bring is that it takes the fun out of gambling and patronizes the citizen!

In addition, oasis does not work properly, because it can not be the casino xy player a can block and player a looks into the tube!

Who should objectively decide that player a is addicted! ?

Yes that is true

The point with the stranger lock I to be honest also do not understand I think if someone is addicted it brings nothing to lock him on compulsion this will have rather the opposite effect similarly if one speaks a child a prohibition one continues it from defiance

Oasis should be an option and not a system where everyone is afraid of never getting out or being patronized because if you don't lock an addict on their own free will they will move on to other services

But this was certainly not considered because DE is very good at prescribing everything to its citizens, at least in comparison with other countries

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HuKu_Koln

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26th Jan. 2023, at 10:08 pm CET#11

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Falko wrote on 26.01.2023 at 18:03: These Oasis locks also do not bring their desired effect, because you need then only enter Google casino and sports betting providers without Oasis. Then a lot of possibilities pop up and so every blocked Oasis player can then continue to play there. So you drive the players then only from the legal market to the black market.

It is obvious that Oasis is not an all-embracing solution, and it is not meant to be. Online offers and who lives at borders can play quite fast in other countries. Other solutions and approaches have been discussed in some cases. OASIS serves to regulate the legal market in Germany. In fact, I'm surprised at the feedback that the majority of players are so consistently controlled. The long-term player cards, on the other hand, naturally undermine this approach if the controls become inconsistent.

gamble1 wrote on 01/26/2023 at 19:50:
Yes that is true

The point with the stranger lock I to be honest also do not understand I think if someone is addicted it brings nothing to lock him on compulsion that will have rather the opposite effect similarly if one speaks a child a prohibition one does it out of defiance further

Oasis should be an option and not a system where everyone is afraid of never getting out or being patronized because if you don't lock an addict on their own free will they will move on to other services

But this was certainly not considered because DE is very good at prescribing everything to its citizens, at least in comparison with other countries

The consideration is not so wrong. Resistance creates resistance. On the other hand, relatives for example - especially with a common disposition - are in drastic cases quasi at the mercy, if there is no insight. There I already see an advantage. A third-party block should not be able to take place just like that. Evidence must be presented and the person concerned will also be asked. Is there a field report in the forum where something else was reported? Gladly times by PM to me.

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gamble1

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26th Jan. 2023, at 11:29 pm CET#12

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FachstelleGSSkoeln wrote on 26.01.2023 at 22:08:

The observation is not so wrong. Resistance generates resistance. On the other hand, relatives for example - especially in case of a common disposition - are quasi at the mercy of drastic cases if there is no insight. There I already see an advantage. A third-party block should not be able to take place just like that. Evidence must be presented and the person concerned will also be asked. Is there a field report in the forum where something else was reported? Gladly times by PM to me.

Well, there is for example the point that at a large Provider dozens of people were blocked without ever having ordered this because of a technical error and OASIS has done nothing to delete the erroneous blocks

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Donnie

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26th Jan. 2023, at 11:40 pm CET#13

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The only way to make an addict free of addiction or at least to make him live his addiction in a regulated way is the insight of the addict himself or he has to fall so unbelievably low (can be many things: homelessness, no money for food/drinking/electricity anymore, imprisonment due to acquisitive crime, etc.) that he wakes up one day

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27th Jan. 2023, at 04:01 am CET#14

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Max_Bet wrote on 26/01/2023 at 17:20:

The contact with Oasis. I have nothing to do with arcade anyway.

It is already clear. I also wrote that there are problems when it comes to unlocking. Not everyone wants to be locked forever and an unlocking should then also wedren carried out. Here it was at some point about the fact that Oasis then probably liked to act as a "guardian". Nothing else. Ansich but stands behind Oasis probably a good thought.

No no no you.. Who has once been locked, must definitely remain locked!

It is not so that each lock was also requested from own intension, so voluntarily by the player himself, because he had an insight ... Or just ne shitty time of which he needed ne break!!!
In large part, this is one of the conditions of probation, because these people only through the Gambling addiction, became criminals!
It is just as important to protect family members and their children!
If the husband or wife within one day the entire income on the head, including rent, electricity and household money, etc..
These locks are certainly not voluntarily applied for by the addicts!
What do you think? once the roughest shards are removed again, they immediately run back there and continue as if there were no tomorrow 🤷♀️

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27th Jan. 2023, at 09:59 am CET#15

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FachstelleGSSkoeln wrote on 26/01/2023 at 16:36: Hello Dear Community,
i am an employee of a gambling counseling center, the one in Cologne to be exact.

I and my team would be interested in concrete feedback on the OASIS lock. According to the latest figures, 150,000 people in Germany have been blocked. Are these blocks now being monitored and implemented on site? In our consulting work, we hear again and again that this is rarely the case.

We would be happy to hear about your experiences. Especially from people who have had themselves blocked and still tried to muddle through in the arcade somehow. How realistic is that?

Many greetings

i regularly lock myself accidentally at Bet365... I find the lock simply annoying, but also have myself well under control.

The Spielos here with us query the Oasis database.

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