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Landbased Casinos in general: A joke what is going on in German game arcades (Page 18)

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A joke what is going on in German game arcades

21st Nov. 2018, at 08:56 am CET#171
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isn't it cheating if I charge 10 euros and money is deducted without playing? and what about the 180 minute zero position?

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A joke what is going on in German game arcades

21st Nov. 2018, at 10:30 am CET#172
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As someone here has already written, the greed of the vending machine manufacturers is not to be satiated.
And in the first instance it goes nevertheless around that the/the manufacturer and its entourage further in Saus and braus to live can.
Further also the municipalities live very well at expense of the "ill ones".
20% entertainment tax is also not uncommon and certainly not intended to curb the misguided policy regarding the halls shot out of the ground like poisonous mushrooms.

My personal conclusion, state and manufacturer act (until today) in the mutual interest, freely according to the motto "Live and let live".

The stupid one is just the player, especially if he believes or he/it is suggested that he can win something.
What is of course concealed, his / her money is already long planned

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21st Nov. 2018, at 10:48 am CET#173
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Skeptiker wrote on 20.11.2018 at 19:29: By the way: Imagine the uproar there would be if you go shopping at Aldi and Co. and get your change in the course of the next 2-3 hours or so.
What special rights are granted to the hall operators is unbelievable. A "normal" businessman would be in jail for a long time if he acted according to the same rules.
But that's probably because the arcade business is considered particularly trustworthy and reputable. And it is also extremely important and useful for the national economy. It is urgently needed.

The comparison with the supermarket is not quite apt. In contrast to the cash register at the discount store, I see that the state does not limit the turnover at it. Especially since the operators of the arcades have not made up their own minds about the rebooking. The problem is that TR 5.0 states:

2. The minimum playing time is five seconds; the stake may not exceed 0.20 euros and the win may not exceed 2 euros.

So that a "normal play" is at all possible, the manufacturers of the money play devices of a legal trick had used itself. Gambling is not defined in the law. Therefore one explained the transfer process from money to point memory to the actual play. However, this system then causes the well-known problems with the payout due to the chargeback - I had also tried to explain this in an article on TR 5.0

The system is bad for the player, but ultimately it is also due to TR 5.0, which once again shows that the laws on gambling are mostly not mature. Although the implementation leads to the fact that you have to stay longer in the arcade, but ultimately, at least in that point, the hall operators have nothing to do with it. They only set up the Slot machines - they do not change the payout process/game play

I can understand not liking some arcade operators. Still, I see the problem of delayed payouts due to rebooking as more of a bad law (or TR), where those responsible would rather blame the machine manufacturers - since they interpreted the law that way.

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A joke what is going on in German game arcades

21st Nov. 2018, at 11:17 am CET#174
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I find the new machines totally crap...I agree with you all!
Habe gestetn the first time at these new machines 2 euro reingeworfen. And the shitty machine books only 1.80 euro!
I wondered, loudly gestigulierend.
There said immediately 2 gamblers next to me:
That is normal

What beggeschän is normal?

Example: I get on the bus. The ticket costs 2,00€ at the bus driver.
I give the bus driver 1,80€ and tell him: that's normal.

Hello ...... did I miss something?

Later I went to the waitress in the Spielo and asked her to play 1 game with me for 20 cents.
We throw in, the machine books, deducts 5cent, there are 15cent left to play. We start 1 spin. No win. 5 cents remain in the machine. The 5cent is gambled away by the machine itself!
So for 20 cents I had a game for 10 cents!
There are 50% of my stake simply gone...!
Now I ask the operator and the two, from just now,: This is normal? Yes?
I said to all: You have ne Meisse...that is crimminell, the fraud.

Shit new machines

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21st Nov. 2018, at 11:20 am CET#175
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in the further course you would theoretically get back the 20 ct you have taken off, i.e. at the next or one of the following booking phases

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21st Nov. 2018, at 12:22 pm CET#176
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Begbie wrote on 21.11.2018 at 11:20 am: in the further course you would theoretically get your abgeknapsten 20ct again, so at the next or one of the following booking phases

yes I also noticed when I had 10 euros too little on the speedometer but went because no one could help me, they do not even know what is after the zero setting. The staff seems to be mega overwhelmed and constantly scream all for the codes so I was once and never again. These are just disgusting filthy caves with some schmu people sorry but is simply so

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21st Nov. 2018, at 12:35 pm CET#177
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Well, but this booking is officially the game That means you played for 2€ and won 1,80€. All these flashing images, spinning reels, bonus symbols, free spins and mathematically calculable point wins with certain arrangement of symbols on marked paylines are just not the game! I have found this logic to suck for years. Either you realize that laws like 20ct maximum bet and 2€ maximum win break a whole industry and leave them out, or you break the industry and go through with it. This compromise is and has always been absolutely crappy. You're virtually allowing fraud here. I don't think anybody in the legislature has a problem with the game not being defined, or they would have done it at some point in one of the amendments. All that can be done is to restrict gambling to such an extent that it is just about reasonable, but not impossible. After all, many jobs throughout Germany depend on the gambling industry, and besides, the amusement tax usually doesn't hurt the municipalities either
A liberal Germany, where you can gamble at every corner and the state says that man is free and you do not want to prohibit gambling would please me better than the current: A state that points out how dangerous gambling is, that introduces laws to ensure the protection of players, that recognizes that gambling as a sensitive issue may only be offered by state institutions ---> And then overlooks all these points and lets its own laws be interpreted as it would never tolerate in any other area.

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22nd Nov. 2018, at 09:07 am CET#178
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Hello and good morning. The first TR5 Novoline machines were already standing around in my town from mid-August. Namely in a gyros snack bar. The arcades have waited a long time to put up the new boxes. I have now played very often on mainly Novo machines. Less often on new Merkur machines and Bally Wulff. It is with me a single disaster and I lost once again very much money. Several thousand euros.
Briefly, a few highlights, if you can talk about it:

60 Euro win on the new game Forest Beauty on 20cent
110 Euro win at the new Book of Ra Magic, 4 explorers in the free spins with explorer symbol on 10 cent
70 Euro win on the classic Book of Ra on 30 cents
77 Euro win at Faust on 10 cents with a crazy amount of free spins, which were then again badly paid in total.
160 euro win Book of Ra on 2 euro bet

The surprise wins I had quite often with newly set up devices, including the probably highest win with 50 euros.
These wins then come as it seems never again, as a user here already correctly wrote. It is probably only initial lure profits.
In exchange, one has probably cut the earlier with newly installed machines generous initial program.
I was disappointed when I had free spins on 2 euros on a newly installed machine and the measly 60 euros win spat out. My free spins on 2 euros (getting a total of 4 times all in Book of Ra) were consistently disappointing on the TR5. The maximum win was the 160 euros mentioned above.

The halls are partly yawningly empty, the staff is bored and even more unfriendly than usual. I would welcome it if many of these pestilential booths would disappear and give me a laugh. Unfortunately, despite the bad, weeks-long experience with the TR5 boxes, I have not yet managed to completely leave them alone, which showed me how big my gambling problem is after all.
Two times was won next to me at TR5 Novo very high. Always on 2 euro and in each case over 2000 euro. On inquiry the players played from the beginning on 2 euro and were for it according to own statement 7 hours and more in the play hall, since yes the money booking Unzeiten lasts. Well, who` fun makes.

At the Merkur I have won at all still nothing worth mentioning and also with no other seen. In some play halls at the M BOX no more even the first 2 euro are flash booked, but the money dackelt from the beginning in 20 cent steps over. Then even the biggest hardcore player capitulates.

Conclusion: Gambling in halls and restaurants has become even worse than it was before. I would recommend everyone to absolutely keep their hands off it.
My favorite game Salon Rouge is completely gone, Pharaoh` Tomb is not on most or even my beloved Sissi gone forever. Snot games from Novo`s former online sector like all the Winter, Autumn, Spring Queens spoil the fun. On 10 cent games you can now completely forget, because for the most part nothing is paid at all. It's all a horror.

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22nd Nov. 2018, at 10:43 am CET#179
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spinachstar wrote on 22.11.2018 at 09:07: Hello and good morning. The first TR5 Novoline machines were already around in my town from mid-August. Namely in a gyros snack bar. The arcades have waited a long time to put up the new boxes. I have now played very often on mainly Novo machines. Less often on new Merkur machines and Bally Wulff. It is with me a single disaster and I lost once again very much money. Several thousand euros.
Briefly, a few highlights, if you can talk about it:

60 Euro win on the new game Forest Beauty on 20cent
110 Euro win at the new Book of Ra Magic, 4 explorers in the free spins with explorer symbol on 10 cent
70 Euro win on the classic Book of Ra on 30 cents
77 Euro win at Faust on 10 cents with a crazy amount of free spins, which were then again badly paid in total.
160 euro win Book of Ra on 2 euro bet

The surprise wins I had quite often with newly set up devices, including the probably highest win with 50 euros.
These wins then come as it seems never again, as a user here already correctly wrote. It is probably only initial lure profits.
In exchange, one has probably cut the earlier with newly installed machines generous initial program.
I was disappointed when I had free spins on 2 euros on a newly installed machine and the measly 60 euros win spat out. My free spins on 2 euros (getting a total of 4 times all in Book of Ra) were consistently disappointing on the TR5. The maximum win was the 160 euros mentioned above.

The halls are partly yawningly empty, the staff is bored and even more unfriendly than usual. I would welcome it if many of these pestilential booths would disappear and give me a laugh. Unfortunately, despite the bad, weeks-long experience with the TR5 boxes, I have not yet managed to completely leave them alone, which showed me how big my gambling problem is after all.
Two times was won next to me at TR5 Novo very high. Always on 2 euro and in each case over 2000 euro. On inquiry the players played from the beginning on 2 euro and were for it according to own statement 7 hours and more in the play hall, since yes the money booking Unzeiten lasts. Well, who` fun makes.

At the Merkur I have won at all still nothing worth mentioning and also with no other seen. In some play halls at the M BOX no more even the first 2 euro are flash booked, but the money dackelt from the beginning in 20 cent steps over. Then even the biggest hardcore player capitulates.

Conclusion: Gambling in halls and restaurants has become even worse than it was before. I would recommend everyone to absolutely keep their hands off it.
My favorite game Salon Rouge is completely gone, Pharaoh` Tomb is not on most or even my beloved Sissi gone forever. Snot games from Novo`s former online sector like all the Winter, Autumn, Spring Queens spoil the fun. On 10 cent games you can now completely forget, because for the most part nothing is paid at all. It's all a horror.


There was never any guarantee that newly installed machines would pay better. This story belongs in the land of many gamer myths, together with the start-stop rape and the "new players are preferred" fairy tale

Whether it really goes worse I can not yet assess, when I was in the arcade I have seen at least one who has won very fat

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22nd Nov. 2018, at 11:24 am CET#180
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I don't think you are right about that. In the hall I opened in March, the newly installed machines ran very well for a few days, showing rare winning pictures and easily giving free spins. I then asked another hall owner how this could be. He laughed and told me that the newly installed machines always run well for a few days to attract players, make them hot and then suddenly the normal program runs. I have also had this experience several times in other arcades on newly set up Novos. Only now no more with the newly installed TR5. By the way: In a hall 3 weeks ago, the technician who set up the new machine made the final touches before he asked me to play. He then said as I was leaving: "Now at the beginning you might be able to win something. Then... "waved me off and walked away. I never saw the turtle tide at a Merkur again

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