Landbased Casinos in general: A joke what is going on in German game arcades (Page 17)

Skeptic wrote on 19.11.2018 at 20:19
Lmits and the like on a player card - all for naught, can never be realized. I want higher limit, here my proof of income... Or how? No, a kind of electronic receipt would help a lot. Deposited, amount of the stake or stakes and the wins / losses falling on it, actually played and effectively paid out. This information would be enough to open the eyes of some players. Would be nevertheless nice, if at the bar a computer stands, which can indicate and/or also print out one these info. Too expensive? Well, every smallest kiosk needs a cash register - why not a hall operator? If he is allowed to keep his name secret...

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Ichbins2018 wrote on 19.11.2018 at 19:15
I think that no one here wants to take anything away Begbie, your freedoms in Germany even less.

If I restrict your statement only to arcades, then really everything and everyone who runs in there belongs unrestrictedly protected.
The lobby has over the years no Slot machines set up ala game fun and entertainment, but has produced real addictive money printing machines!


500.000 thousand pathological gamblers, fully booked addiction clinics ... hundreds of self-help groups only in this area, already speak their own language.

I'm not even counting online gambling - and then you come along and claim "you can overdo it with Player protection?

Gambling makes many, very, very many people sick and only the very few can handle it sensibly
In Spielos I personally know no one who can deal with this reasonably - and I'm not talking about going in now and then, but I knew the scene very well,
i went to all the gambling houses, after all I was there for over 30 years - and I really knew every gambler.
There were no recreational players there - and if a new one came, then he or she never came back, or eventually belonged to the "regular players"

In my best years (as a gambler) I would have robbed the place, would have stopped at nothing when it came to satisfy my addiction

Player protection exaggerated?

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Ankor wrote on 20/11/2018 at 00:26
Of course it can be realized, with appropriate income the limit can be increased and that's it. And you don't need an electric cash register, it is not mandatory until today.

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Skeptic wrote on 11/20/2018 at 08:01 AM
Sure thing, and done. Are you going to show your income in a hall??? I sure don't. Really, my confidence in the halls extends as far as I can throw them. And I'm sure most others don't feel much different. Whether you need an electric cash register or bang. Alone that one times before eyes has, which one for its money gets, is often already sufficient, selbige to open. In addition a voucher is sufficient evenly. By the way: Even if P.G. always claimed that - the entertainment value can't be it. Not even the social gathering of the players. The other day I risked a hundred with my wife. When I sat down next to her and exchanged a few words, the supervisor - a 100 year old witch who seemed to have fallen from a broom somewhere - came and whistled at me: "But that is not welcome here, that people stay at the machines without playing. I have my instructions. Either put money in or get out." If the store had been full to bursting or we were not there often, I could have understood that. But with a total of 4 guests???
Have by the way no more money thrown in but my wife asked to press her 6.38 € out. Afterwards still an appropriate comment let go and then we went. They don't see us there again.

Amount deposited: 450,00 €
Amount paid out: 80,00 €

Number of spins: 575
Smallest bet: 0,08 €
Highest bet: 2,00 €
Game duration: 00:13:51

Return to player: 42

Session ID: 000000123456789

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Ankor wrote on 11/19/2018 at 4:48 pm
And did he get any?
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Am still in favor of adding a fixed monthly limit to a global player card e.g. no more than 400 € per month can be deposited. For people who receive under 451 € monthly it should be limited to 100 €. People with good income can get higher limits approved. So one could not withdraw credit and then gamble away, the player card could also be linked to the bank account so that wins can be booked directly to it and the limits are regulated by the bank. If someone is in the minus. the player card will recognize that and deny the game and book the sum immediately to the bank account. The card should be valid everywhere (gambling house, casino and lotteries - so every area is covered). Then you regulate the online area and with the player card you can then create an online account, which you verify once and you then only have to enter the player card number in a German licensed casino and ready no more annoying re-verification necessary. Everything (verification, limits, etc.) uniformly regulated. That would be real Player protection and dreamlike comfort - of course also a huge accumulation of data which already takes place.

In return, the unnecessary manual booking could be taken out again, which only costs time and leads to more frustration. Paying out should also be possible immediately, one should simply prevent by the immediate booking on the account and the global limits that it is thrown in again. But the policy sets here clearly frustration generation and hopes that some nevertheless continue to play so that the income does not fall too much, despite a machine and slow booking you can continue to lose with enough perseverance vast amounts of money a day. Where does that make sense? But maybe I'm the only one who thinks so, but I think you have to give people freedom and protect only when it can threaten the existence of the respective person.

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Ankor wrote on 20/11/2018 at 09:13
Then everyone would always see what they paid in, got out and how long the fun lasted. Would be something or, in general, you could receive a monthly letter as a player with a detailed listing of the month: game days, playing time, loss / win, bet amount and then still below a section "Total" there is then aufgezegit how much time you have already wasted in life at the machine or how much you are now really in the minus / plus. Of course, these are all ways to show people how bad it really is.

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